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Hello everyone
I have the Onkyo 805 and would like to Exchange by 818
is there much difference in sound quality?????
Thank you
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Hello everyone
I have the Onkyo 805 and would like to Exchange by 818
is there much difference in sound quality?????
Thank you

i just upgraded from the 805 to the 818. While the 805 was a classic, the 818 in my opinion is definitely superior in terms of sound quality.

Much cleaner sound, more detailed and I have never had to make an adjustment to the center channel while listening - had to bump up the center frequently with the 805.

However, I am not using the 818's amps because I have an Emotiva XPA-5 in my system.

XT32 alone is worth the upgrade in my opinion. Lots of other new features as well.
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sound great but already have 5 years and wanted to pass
for the 818...smile.gif
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Should i go with the tx 717 or the 809? If anyone can help me out with this it would be really appreciated.
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I saw the power that has the same specifications but many people say that
the 805 has more power when it's in action
and have you done the firmware upgrade? everything went well?
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Don't buy the 717. Get the 809.

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FYI There is a sale going on again on TX-NR818 at several retailers for those who missed out last time
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FYI There is a sale going on again on T
X-NR818 at several retailers
for those who missed out last time

BH Photo Video had it for $699 last night, now up to $749.

Keep checking prices they might bounce back down.

I got mine from BH Photo for $649 on Thanksgiving weekend, it was backordered
and just shipped today.
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I just ran Adyssey again, and it asked me to turn down the subs volume to 75bd. This with the sub in "flat" settings. I had to set the gain to -6 and the sensitivity to -6db. on the sub. (to get it down to 75db)

Is this a ok way to do it?

I am not familiar with your sub, but yes, it seems so. Audyssey wants you to get the sub to 75dB before it starts so that the trim ends up in the right range. Personally, I always set my subs to 78dB - this means that the trims are set lower in the AVP (to about -5dB in my case) and this gives me a little more headroom if I decide to run them a little hot - I can run them 2dB hot and have a final trim setting of -3dB. IOW it isn't all that critical where you set the gain on the subs, so long as your trims end up in the -3.5dB to +3.5dB area after Audyssey has done its thing. 

 

(It might be better to move this to the Official Audyssey Thread if we're going to continue with the Audyssey setup queries.)



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Hello everyone
I have the Onkyo 805 and would like to Exchange by 818
is there much difference in sound quality?????
Thank you

 

There's not likely to be a deal of difference in SQ as such between any modern electronics, but the 818 has the huge benefit of Audyssey MultEQ XT32, and that is likely to make a big difference to the sound quality you will actually hear in your room - especially wrt to the bass frequencies. XT32 is Audyssey's top of the line consumer EQ product in AVRs and is a big step up from the 'lesser versions'.

 

h)2.   What is the difference between the various versions of MultEQ?



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I love using my phone app to control music using a hard drive filled with all my wav files. But, it only seems to work through the front USB - whenever I connect through the rear USB I get nothing. I thought the rear USB could be used for basic file playing. No? Cos' I can't really keep the front tray open, and I want the hard drive connected full-time.

Bump. Does anyone know why, or how I might be able to get the rear usb port to read the files?

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Bump. Does anyone know why, or how I might be able to get the rear usb port to read the files?
The rear USB reads files fine. From what I remember though, it seems slower than the front one.

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The rear USB reads files fine. From what I remember though, it seems slower than the front one.

thanks. Are you using a powered drive? I thought that may have been the issue - I don't have one to check with

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I used a USB flash drive.

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yes, I just tried a flash drive and it worked fine. Looks like the rear port can't handle powering the hard drive. Fair enough - easy fixed with a quick visit to the shops. thanks

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I just got a tx-nr818, there are two issues:

1. How to do stream music (mp3) from PC (windows 8) to Onkyo 818? I have setup the media stream and network sharing option in the windows 8. In onkyo 818 net home, select the DLNA or home media, i can see the music folders from the server, however the Onkyo looks like not recognize mp3 files at all. In the video folder, it can recognize mp4 video file but it only playback the sound not the video. How to solve the problem?

2. I have 9.1 speakers, set the 7.1 as usual and add the other two to frond wide (zone2/3 OFF), and use multiXT32 to calibrate the speakers. All speakers respond correctly during calibration. but it never have sound coming out there on playing back music (set A/V to all channel audio). Zone2/3 seems not working properly, is this because I did not turn on Zone2/3 in calibration? Manually turning on Zone2/3 in speaker setting, sometimes switching to zone2/3 works, sometimes not. when it works, the AV always turn OFF two of 7.1 speakers set. It look like the AV only output 7.1 speakers total, no matter how you set it up.

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BH Photo Video had it for $699 last night, now up to $749.
Keep checking prices they might bounce back down.
I got mine from BH Photo for $649 on Thanksgiving weekend, it was backordered
and just shipped today.


Same here I've been waiting a few weeks but am happy it shipped. Hopefully it will be delivered on Monday.

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i just got an 809 today and i'm having serious video issues.
i have an HTPC running XBMC. Whenever i switch to that source i get audio, but it takes at least 15-20 seconds for the video to come one. i usually have to toggle sources again or start jamming buttons on the HTPC remote.

has anyone seen anything like this with the 818? at the current price i'll swap for the 818. if not i'm considering trading for a Denon 3312ci
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BTW, on Windows 8, I have Windows Media player, Winamp, and itune. Associating the file format to any one of them still does not work out.
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There's not likely to be a deal of difference in SQ as such between any modern electronics, but the 818 has the huge benefit of Audyssey MultEQ XT32, and that is likely to make a big difference to the sound quality you will actually hear in your room - especially wrt to the bass frequencies. XT32 is Audyssey's top of the line consumer EQ product in AVRs and is a big step up from the 'lesser versions'.

h)2.   What is the difference between the various versions of MultEQ?

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It's probably my fault for mentioning the 4311 in an Onkyo thread - it seems to have inflamed dstew100 beyond all reasonable sense

For the record, during my replies to Mr. Barnes prior to the quoted post, I praised the 4311 for the great AVR it is. I have corrected the false statements he made whilst providing him several compliments. The quoted claim could not be further from the truth.

I have attempted to help him distinguish between XT32 and SubEQHT, he's thrown a jab in every direction except the problem.
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i just got an 809 today and i'm having serious video issues.
i have an HTPC running XBMC. Whenever i switch to that source i get audio, but it takes at least 15-20 seconds for the video to come one. i usually have to toggle sources again or start jamming buttons on the HTPC remote.
has anyone seen anything like this with the 818? at the current price i'll swap for the 818. if not i'm considering trading for a Denon 3312ci

I can't use the 818 at all with my HTPC which is running Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. When attempting to run my HTPC's HDMI output through the 818 the Windows environment identifies my display as the Onkyo818 and consistently sends a 1024x768 signal to my plasma display initially. I then have to switch to a different input and back again, often times more than once before my plasma display gets a 1920x1080 image. Even so, there is significant overscan. Doesn't matter what settings I use on the 818 either. I even have the video processing disabled. Now in contrast, if I run the HDMI output from my HTPC directly to my plasma display the Windows environment detects the connected display correctly, as a Samsung PN58B860 Plasma. I also get a perfect 1920x1080 60hz image each and every time with zero overscan. It's perfect from edge to edge. The display syncs up with the signal instantly as well and never loses sync. Fortunately I only use my HTPC to play DVD's from My Movies for WMC7, so HDMI direct to my plasma display and optical to the 818 for the audio gets the job done just as well.
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I can't use the 818 at all with my HTPC which is running Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. When attempting to run my HTPC's HDMI output through the 818 the Windows environment identifies my display as the Onkyo818 and consistently sends a 1024x768 signal to my plasma display initially. I then have to switch to a different input and back again, often times more than once before my plasma display gets a 1920x1080 image. Even so, there is significant overscan. Doesn't matter what settings I use on the 818 either. I even have the video processing disabled. Now in contrast, if I run the HDMI output from my HTPC directly to my plasma display the Windows environment detects the connected display correctly, as a Samsung PN58B860 Plasma. I also get a perfect 1920x1080 60hz image each and every time with zero overscan. It's perfect from edge to edge. The display syncs up with the signal instantly as well and never loses sync. Fortunately I only use my HTPC to play DVD's from My Movies for WMC7, so HDMI direct to my plasma display and optical to the 818 for the audio gets the job done just as well.


Hello
If you use this sound card you'll get the situation resolved

I use it on my HTPC with my Onkyo 805
and work 5 *****

http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_HDAV13_Slim/
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Newegg has the 818 on sale today for $679 free shipping for all who missed the black friday/cyber monday deals a few weeks ago.
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Hello
If you use this sound card you'll get the situation resolved
I use it on my HTPC with my Onkyo 805
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http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_HDAV13_Slim/

Thanks for the link. I'll keep that in mind.
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Hi all,

I have been thinking about replacing my current Denon 4310ci with Onkyo TX-NR818. For various reasons I have not been particularly happy with Denon 4310, but at this time the lack of HDMI 3D pass through is making me look elsewhere. I have one question. It seems that Onkyo has two subwoofer corrections, but the manual says that it outputs the same signal through both sub output? Does it mean that two subs cannot be calibrated independently? Is it any different than what I have now with Denon, one subwoofer output that I use with a splitter?

Thanks in advance.
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Newegg has the 818 on sale today for $679 free shipping for all who missed the black friday/cyber monday deals a few weeks ago.

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Hi all,
I have been thinking about replacing my current Denon 4310ci with Onkyo TX-NR818. For various reasons I have not been particularly happy with Denon 4310, but at this time the lack of HDMI 3D pass through is making me look elsewhere. I have one question. It seems that Onkyo has two subwoofer corrections, but the manual says that it outputs the same signal through both sub output? Does it mean that two subs cannot be calibrated independently? Is it any different than what I have now with Denon, one subwoofer output that I use with a splitter?
Thanks in advance.

No it is not.
but this does have X32 vs the XT of the Denon.
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I have been thinking about replacing my current Denon 4310ci with Onkyo TX-NR818. For various reasons I have not been particularly happy with Denon 4310, but at this time the lack of HDMI 3D pass through is making me look elsewhere. I have one question. It seems that Onkyo has two subwoofer corrections, but the manual says that it outputs the same signal through both sub output? Does it mean that two subs cannot be calibrated independently? Is it any different than what I have now with Denon, one subwoofer output that I use with a splitter?

Thanks in advance.

 

It's the same as the one you have now in effect.

 

Every current XT32 equipped unit except the 818 measures each sub independently for level and distance (delay) and then calibrates the two subs as one (thus taking account of their interaction with each other as well as with the room). The 818 does not do this and works, in effect, as if the two sub outputs were Y-cabled together like you do it now. If your subs are identical or essentially similar, co-located and/or equidistant from the listening position then this doesn't really matter, or if you have independent means of setting levels and delays (distance).

 

Note that the distance setting is really a delay setting so you can't just measure the physical distance of the subs from the MLP because you need to take account of the internal delays which most subs introduce. This is why I say it doesn't matter with the 818 IF your subs are co-located and/or equidistant from the MLP. If they fulfil those requirements then the 818 will measure them for level and distance as if they were one sub and the result will be good to go.

 

There's more background to this in the Audyssey FAQ:

 

f)1.    Why has Audyssey set my sub distance much greater than it actually measures?


f)2.    How do I connect and set up two subwoofers?
 

f)3.    How do I set the controls on my subwoofer before running MultEQ?



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Hi all,
I have been thinking about replacing my current Denon 4310ci with Onkyo TX-NR818. For various reasons I have not been particularly happy with Denon 4310, but at this time the lack of HDMI 3D pass through is making me look elsewhere. I have one question. It seems that Onkyo has two subwoofer corrections, but the manual says that it outputs the same signal through both sub output? Does it mean that two subs cannot be calibrated independently? Is it any different than what I have now with Denon, one subwoofer output that I use with a splitter?
Thanks in advance.

Note that MultEQ XT32 generally comes with Sub EQ HT which is the process that EQ's dual subs (first independently and then together) connected to the AVR. For some reason Onkyo chose to not provide Sub EQ HT on the 818, rather only on the 1010 and higher level models. In the current configuration, although XT32 uses higher filter resolution than does the XT in your 4310CI, the actual calibration process is the same.

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