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post #10261 of 10287 Old 04-21-2015, 01:39 PM
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I dont know why but today I try to update to new firmware 1141-3104-0201-0000 coming from 1100-7101-0100-0000
and end up with bricked receiver! I do everything by the book turn of HDMI Control extract all files direct from zip and on
VSP Setting I ger error 3-83. Done soft,hard reset bilion times and again 3-83 no sound no video. Does anybody have solution? Thanx

PS: I try to update old firmware but everything is stack with just 4 digits in FW update 1141-3
Service from Onkyo tell me today that I have to change hdmi board, 350euro. My receiver was full hardware working before firmware update. Is it posible that official firmware destroy hardware of my receiver? I am thinking for last try to donwgrade to last working firmware 1100-7101-0100-0000 is this posible and does someone have link for this firmware? Thanx
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Service from Onkyo tell me today that I have to change hdmi board, 350euro. My receiver was full hardware working before firmware update. Is it posible that official firmware destroy hardware of my receiver? I am thinking for last try to donwgrade to last working firmware 1100-7101-0100-0000 is this posible and does someone have link for this firmware? Thanx
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Well, after giving my 818 a static ip addr I'm still having connection issues so I reenabled dhcp & unplugged the unit & I can use vtuner dlna once again. My tv & bluray player are all connected to the same wifi hub & have no connection issues, just the 818! Is there anything else I can try short of sending the stupid thing in for repair sigh. Thx
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Yes but I have limited options.
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Just got my unit back from repair for the hdmi no sound issue.

Strange thing happening right now.
If I go into the menu and go to speaker configuration, once I select speaker configuration, the Onkyo locks up for 5 seconds, then the tv screen goes black. Tv shows no signal.
The front of the Onkyo is showing the menu. I can make changes there but no video is output.

I have to power cycle the receiver to get the screen back. I did do a factory reset on the receiver.

Anyone have any idea what might be happening?
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I think I may have a HDMI problem. Lately I have noticed my TX-NR818 stating HDMI start up when I power it on. I've never noticed this before. I replaced HDMI cables, tried a different TV as well as a different blue Ray player. Still gives the same. This only occurs when I first turn on the unit and only last 15-30 seconds.
Any help would be appreciated Thx
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I think I may have a HDMI problem. Lately I have noticed my TX-NR818 stating HDMI start up when I power it on. I've never noticed this before. I replaced HDMI cables, tried a different TV as well as a different blue Ray player. Still gives the same. This only occurs when I first turn on the unit and only last 15-30 seconds.
Any help would be appreciated Thx
I think you have just never noticed it before. Mine says that every time it is turned on and has done so since day one. I assume it is displaying this while it is establishing proper handshake with the other devices.
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I think you have just never noticed it before. Mine says that every time it is turned on and has done so since day one. I assume it is displaying this while it is establishing proper handshake with the other devices.
Mine has always done this as well

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That has been the normal operation of mine too.

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Dunno, 30 seconds sounds a bit excessive. Probably it's more like one of those things that's always been there. If for whatever reason the length of time may have changed to make it noticeable? That might be a reason to check connections, setup type concern....
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I think I may have a HDMI problem. Lately I have noticed my TX-NR818 stating HDMI start up when I power it on. I've never noticed this before. I replaced HDMI cables, tried a different TV as well as a different blue Ray player. Still gives the same. This only occurs when I first turn on the unit and only last 15-30 seconds.
Any help would be appreciated Thx

Mine had never done this either, until a couple weeks ago. I know for a fact, that it is not "something I haven't noticed before"...as I have watched this unit closely, since it replaced my lemon plagued 807. I have just filed for the repair, as now...within the last week it has gone unresponsive. (classic HDMI board symptoms.) Power disconnect only helped the first two times. Complete factory reset helped once, until it was powered off for the night.

My first indication was that I could not power it on with the app...nor could any of my devices find it on the network.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I forsee a repair in your near future.
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Just got my unit back from repair for the hdmi no sound issue.

Strange thing happening right now.
If I go into the menu and go to speaker configuration, once I select speaker configuration, the Onkyo locks up for 5 seconds, then the tv screen goes black. Tv shows no signal.
The front of the Onkyo is showing the menu. I can make changes there but no video is output.

I have to power cycle the receiver to get the screen back. I did do a factory reset on the receiver.

Anyone have any idea what might be happening?

Answering my own question to possibly help others that may run into this.
I did a "FORCE UPDATE" for the firmware. I was on the latest version but decided to flash it again anyway.
Fixed everything for me.
If you want to force a firmware flash, hold the usb source button and the standbye at the same time. Press enter.

Glad this worked for me. Did not want to send this in again and be without for two weeks again.
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Mine is working flawlessly, and it too from day one has shown the HDMI start up message. It works flawlessly with the network and the mobile app as well.
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I've always waited for the "HDMI startup" message to finish before turning on any other devices. I have never had a handshake issue with the 818 or the (previous) 707 receivers. It takes about 5 seconds on the 818.
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I never noticed it since I usually kept the receiver on standby mode. And it lasting 30 seconds was due to the TV on slow start up. Thanks for all your help, but I got everything set back to normal. No repairs needed
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Thank you for the response. Indeed you get sub bass from your mains when set to Full band, as you should. But can you confirm that you ALSO get the LFE (the .1 channel)? This is not the same as the sub bass/low frequecies from the main channels. This is why Onkyo has generously allowed us a separate LFE crossover in addition to the main crossovers.

A simple 5.1 Dolby test will confirm this with the subs set to none and the mains set to full band. I am out of state and cannot test this myself, so I thought I'd reach out to you guys.
In case any of you need to know, the 818 does in fact reroute the .1 LFE channel to the front left and right speakers when sub is set to NONE and fronts are set to Full Band. I tested it with a discrete THX demo.

This is interesting because a Pioneer receiver we tested does not. The LFE is simply lost.

I'd also like to point out to you 818 owners that with the sub set to Yes, fronts set to large, and Double Bass turned On the sub plays both low frequecies from the other channels and LFE, as most of you are aware. However, the front speakers play low frequecies from the main channels only; no LFE.
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hi Friends

This might be an old topic but I can't seem to get the listening mode to be DSD when playing DFF or DSF files from my Oppo 103D. I do see DSD in the small letters on the left of the 818 display window but I can't toggle DSD and only the likes of Pure Direct, Direct, Stereo etc

Is there any setting I have to do?

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I'd also like to point out to you 818 owners that with the sub set to Yes, fronts set to large, and Double Bass turned On the sub plays both low frequecies from the other channels and LFE, as most of you are aware. However, the front speakers play low frequecies from the main channels only; no LFE.
Do know that if you do the above: will the fronts ONLY play the frequencies it's capable of or do you run the risk of blowing the speaker?

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Do know that if you do the above: will the fronts ONLY play the frequencies it's capable of or do you run the risk of blowing the speaker?
You won't damage them it will just put strain on them and they won't sound as good.

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You won't damage them it will just put strain on them and they won't sound as good.
It will depend on content and level but maybe you should check out this thread

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Upscaling?

Does anyone here use the video upscaling on the receiver? Is it any good?

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Does anyone here use the video upscaling on the receiver? Is it any good?
I use the DVP and I think it is very good. I use it for video games and movies on Netflix. It has a lot of options to help you improve your picture.
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Do know that if you do the above: will the fronts ONLY play the frequencies it's capable of or do you run the risk of blowing the speaker?
If you run the fronts full band with the sub and double bass on the fronts will be burdened with low frequecies. This is not typically the most effective and efficient set up.

The good news for people who decide to set the 818 this way is that LFE will not play through the front channels. And, since music does not carry much subsonic information I'd say this makes thing a little safer for most large speakers that are properly amped.

Personally I prefer to cross my mains regardless of size and ability. It's just a smarter allocation if power.
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It will depend on content and level but maybe you should check out this thread

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Yeah that looks to be the extreme case. I'm sure if you ran poor speakers at reference you'd turn it down as it would sound like crap. Good read though.
Saying that. I have my fronts and surrounds at 80Hz.

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I know about that movie and, unfortunately, my subs aren't rated to go that low so I don't get the full experience that others have achieved.

So no damage - it didn't produce those lows. Are you saying that playing a movie like that with my fronts to "FULL" that they could get damaged?

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I know about that movie and, unfortunately, my subs aren't rated to go that low so I don't get the full experience that others have achieved.

So no damage - it didn't produce those lows. Are you saying that playing a movie like that with my fronts to "FULL" that they could get damaged?
For them to be damaged it would have to be extremely high volume. High enough that you would want to cry a little.

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For them to be damaged it would have to be extremely high volume. High enough that you would want to cry a little.
Thanks! I just might try it.

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