Originally Posted by joehonest
If the 818 amps are still old school onkyo (heavy weight, high current). Then the new onkyo 818 is a better value than the denon. Wouldn't you think so. I just hope there are no leftover QC bugs, but only time will tell....
I've beat up mine over the weekend, but I don't typically use it the same way others do. My receivers spend their life on my desk in a stack (the leaning tower of Onkyo) and I hammer them via the network protocol. I find quite a few bugs this way.
I've found a few bugs so far, none of which are serious to normal operation but can have an effect on network control:
1. Clipped messages that cut off the last character of the source type (only Onkyo and I use this at the moment)
2. Zone 2 menus work fine, Zone 3 & up do not respond to the network commands, but the wrong set of commands. The USB/iPod seem to work the right way though.
3. Some lists return a decimal value for the total number of items when it is supposed to be a hex value. Net Menu Top is one of them, showing 18 items when there are actually 12. (12 hex = 18 decimal).
4. Not initializing variables so some commands return garbage.
However, this has been the most trouble-free unit out of the box for me so far: the HT-RC180 had audio out problems, the 708 was just a disaster out of the box with buggy firmware causing network issues, the 609 had network problems galore plus the audio dropout bug that is still there a year later. The 616 with its standby reset and HDMI issues. The 818 worked great from the moment I turned it on.