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Yeh .. good luck with that. Don't be surprised if the MM7055 dies an early death. They both have ventilation holes on the top so Marantz USA recommends at least 3-4" clearance (or as stated for both in each of their respective Owner's manuals .. at least 12").
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Waiting ?


its here..............


vTuner: 8 x 320 kB and 11 x 256 kB
Tunein: 39 x 320 kB


(i can not hear the differents between 320 and 256 or even 192 kB, all the higher res. sounds good....)


If these are the stations you like is a different story, but they are out there and growing in numbers :-)
Thanks, I will check it out. It's been years since I tried internet radio because at a certain point, you just give up.

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Yeh .. good luck with that. Don't be surprised if the MM7055 dies an early death. They both have ventilation holes on the top so Marantz USA recommends at least 3-4" clearance (or as stated for both in each of their respective Owner's manuals .. at least 12").

Very normal that a company like Marantz, Denon, Onkyo, Yamaha ect. ect. tells you in the manual, dont do this, dont do that.....
Just to prevent getting lawsuits from users when they do stack and stuff starts to smoke.


But in normal circumstances it seems to be ok to stack MM on the bottom and the AV on top.
Other brands like Onkyo also tell users not to stack, but all the promo pics, and on audio shows, they show the pre/pro stacked, even in working condition......


Are there users that do stack the pre/pro on this forum ?

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And when the MM will get hot, its got a fan to cool it:


The output devices are mounted on our unique dual extruded aluminum alloy heat sink assembly, configured in a tunnel arrangement that provides both passive and active cooling. The massive heat sinks feature multiple ribbed fins that provide a large passive cooling area, and the assembly is book-ended with a whisper quiet fan that automatically kicks in to provide near silent active cooling when the soundtrack heats up. As the fan is mounted internally directly to the heat sinks, and not externally to the chassis cover as is often the case, even when it’s running, it’s designed to be whisper quiet.
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Anyone have a concise list of advantages the AV7702 will have over the AV7701?

Also, what happens historically with outgoing Marantz models? Will the 7701 end up available at good discounts soon?

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Two significant advantages are Audyssey XT32 instead of XT plus the new Dolby Atmos processing.

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Two significant advantages are Audyssey XT32 instead of XT plus the new Dolby Atmos processing.

Just remember Atmos requires more speakers, although XT32 is a great room correction system (takes more points within the room into perspective too)

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Any smaller enhancements? I have a 7.2 setup right now and not sure I would do any atmos setup in my current room. Basically debating between spending for the 02 or trying to save a bit and be happy with the 01 on a close out. Not sure when I might make a move to a 4k display either.
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Any smaller enhancements? I have a 7.2 setup right now and not sure I would do any atmos setup in my current room. Basically debating between spending for the 02 or trying to save a bit and be happy with the 01 on a close out. Not sure when I might make a move to a 4k display either.

Had an Onkyo TX NR5010 with surround back and Front High, but find with more speakers there is to much going on......
So Atmos is for me not an option.
I scaled back to 5.0 (no sub) with the AV8801 and MM8077 and use the surround back to drive the fronts in Bi-amp mode.


Is more then enough speakers for me....... ;-)
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Anyone have a concise list of advantages the AV7702 will have over the AV7701?

Also, what happens historically with outgoing Marantz models? Will the 7701 end up available at good discounts soon?

7702 vs 7701:
11CH processing vs only 7CH
XT32 (32x higher speaker filter resolution / 4x higher sub filter resolution) vs. XT
Sub EQ HT (dual subs) vs simply dual sub pre-outs (ie. "Y" splitter)
Independent HDMI/digital/analog audio to Zone 2 and digital/analog to Zone 3 vs analog only
HDMI 2.0 4k/60Hz upscaling/pass through vs. HDMI 1.4 4k/30Hz upscaling/pass through
HDMI Standby Pass through dedicated setting vs. HDMI Control
Airplay to Zones 2/3 only vs. having to leave main zone on
Remote (Info) shows input/output signals vs input only

New features
DTS Neo:X (11CH)
Dolby Atmos (11CH)
All Zone stereo (any source)
Built-in Wifi
Built-in Bluetooth
Audyssey LFC
Analog input assignment
Listen to USB/Network source while watching HDMI video source
Network diagnostics
New & improved iDevice/Android apps coming later this fall


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Just remember Atmos requires more speakers, although XT32 is a great room correction system (takes more points within the room into perspective too)
Only 2 at a minimum and 4 maximum, either ceiling mounted or via speaker add on modules. XT32 uses the same 8 mic positions as XT but has a much higher speaker/sub filter resolution which is why there is a noticeable difference going from XT --> XT32 especially with center channel dialogue quality.

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I had both XT and XT32 in use.
Never could tell any differents between the 2, they both make "mistakes" in putting surrounds on a to low volume level and the center on a to high volume level.
I allways needit to use an SPL meter to get the speakers just right.


Onkyo is moving away from Audyssey and starts to use MultiEQ in the new receiver line, wondering why ?


What i also find very strange is that when i do Audyssey on a Onkyo i NEVER get a speaker phase problem, when i use Audyssey with a Marantz a ALLWAYS get a speaker phase problem........
Same speakers, same wires, identical mic possitions !


I do ignore the phase error but its a strange Marantz problem.

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The vast majority of XT32 owners upgrading from XT would likely disagree, but to each their own. Onkyo had to drop Audyssey because Atmos requires 4 DSPs to work with Audyssey and Onkyo didn't want to make that investment especially as they are offering Atmos in their lower models so they developed their own EQ (AccuEQ) which requires far less processing as it does no EQ on the FL/FR speakers or the sub. No "phase" errors on Onkyo models as Onkyo dropped that feature several years ago due to it causing too much confusion when the speakers were in fact wired correctly, but due to room dynamics the "phase" error was displayed.

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Sorry, its indeed AccuEQ and not MultiEQ like i say, thx.....

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Only 2 at a minimum and 4 maximum, either ceiling mounted or via speaker add on modules. XT32 uses the same 8 mic positions as XT but has a much higher speaker/sub filter resolution which is why there is a noticeable difference going from XT --> XT32 especially with center channel dialogue quality.
Up to 32 with pro as well.

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The Audyssey Pro Installer's kit is a separate purchase ($700) and can be used with the 7701 as well as the 7702, 6008, 7008, 7009, 8801, and 8802.

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Hello, i have a TV box that can do YCBCR 444 or 422 and a 65HU8500 that can handle YCBCR.
Manual states that when it is possible to use YCBCR you should, UHD picture quality will be better then (not my words, this is Samsung !)
Will the AV8801 handle this color format or will it be converted to RGB bij the AV ?
(i have the 8801, think video processing will be the same)

Or what setting must i use to get YCBCR to the screen ?

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7702 vs 7701:
11CH processing vs only 7CH
XT32 (32x higher speaker filter resolution / 4x higher sub filter resolution) vs. XT
Sub EQ HT (dual subs) vs simply dual sub pre-outs (ie. "Y" splitter)
Independent HDMI/digital/analog audio to Zone 2 and digital/analog to Zone 3 vs analog only
HDMI 2.0 4k/60Hz upscaling/pass through vs. HDMI 1.4 4k/30Hz upscaling/pass through
HDMI Standby Pass through dedicated setting vs. HDMI Control
Airplay to Zones 2/3 only vs. having to leave main zone on
Remote (Info) shows input/output signals vs input only

New features
DTS Neo:X (11CH)
Dolby Atmos (11CH)
All Zone stereo (any source)
Built-in Wifi
Built-in Bluetooth
Audyssey LFC
Analog input assignment
Listen to USB/Network source while watching HDMI video source
Network diagnostics
New & improved iDevice/Android apps coming later this fall


Also, AV7701 has been discounted since March/April.

Do you know if the AV7702 will have the feature " A new "TV Audio On/Off" setting to defeat the annoying auto switching caused by an HDMI-CEC ARC connection" contained on the 2014 Denon Atmos AVRs?
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The Audyssey Pro Installer's kit is a separate purchase ($700) and can be used with the 7701 as well as the 7702, 6008, 7008, 7009, 8801, and 8802.

Have you used the installers kit before? Haven't seen it, ran the standard setup in my city apt Far too many sirens so had to do it at 3am, thought it turned the center channel too low for dialogue to be audible in average listening volumes for day-to-day.

Any other thoughts?

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Do you know if the AV7702 will have the feature " A new "TV Audio On/Off" setting to defeat the annoying auto switching caused by an HDMI-CEC ARC connection" contained on the 2014 Denon Atmos AVRs?
Yes, it should be on all Marantz 2014 models as well.
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Have you used the installers kit before? Haven't seen it, ran the standard setup in my city apt Far too many sirens so had to do it at 3am, thought it turned the center channel too low for dialogue to be audible in average listening volumes for day-to-day.

Any other thoughts?
No, however, those that have say it provides an improvement of at most 10-20%. The upgrade from XT to XT32 would be a much larger improvement, especially with center channel dialogue. However, with the 7701, you can either turn Dyn EQ to OFF or set the Dyn EQ Reference Level Offset setting to 10db which will help to improve center channel dialogue. You can also simply bump the center channel 3-4db. Yet another option is to set Dyn Volume to ON which will also help to improve weak dialogue.

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Yes, it should be on all Marantz 2014 models as well.

Thanks. ARC needs all the help it can get!
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Hi, is it possibel to set the AV to use LFE for say BD and Mediaplayer source, and NO LFE for music and TV source ?


I want to buy a REL sub and it has the optin to use High level for music (Neutrik), and Low level for movies (LFE), independent in x-over and volume.

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Using the Neutrik connection is generally not a good idea and should be avoided when using Audyssey.

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Using the Neutrik connection is generally not a good idea and should be avoided when using Audyssey.

And why is it not a good idea ?


Say i will not use Neurik, just LFE, can the AV bet setup that it will use LFE on one source and not on the other ?
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Too confusing with low and high level connections to the sub.

Unlike the sister model Denon 3312CI which has custom 2CH stereo settings that would allow for this, this feature is not included on the Marantz models, so you would have to manually set the sub to OFF when not desired.

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Too confusing with low and high level connections to the sub.

Unlike the sister model Denon 3312CI which has custom 2CH stereo settings that would allow for this, this feature is not included on the Marantz models, so you would have to manually set the sub to OFF when not desired.

Ok, clear, thanks......
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HDMI control/Bravia sync issue with Sony KDL-55W900A(2013 model):
I have my PC on HDMI 4 and my Marantz AV7701 on HDMI 1 with PS3/PS4 input sources. When I select my PS3/PS4(both turned off) input on my Marantz AV7701 the TV doesn't change from Cable TV/ PC HDMI 4 to HDMI 1, but the Marantz AV7701 does go to the correct input source. When the TV is on HDMI 1 and I select cable TV/PC HDMI 4 the TV switches the Marantz AV7701 to TV input. Power on and off sync and HDMI ARC works correctly though. With my XBR-46HX929(2011 model) when I selected any source other than TV on my Marantz AV7701 the TV would switch to HDMI 1 automatically even with HDMI control set to off for both PS3/PS4.
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HDMI can be finicky between different TVs. Try powering all devices off, unplug them for 10 minutes, then power on the TV, wait 4-5 seconds, the 7701, wait 4-5 seconds, then source device.

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HDMI can be finicky between different TVs. Try powering all devices off, unplug them for 10 minutes, then power on the TV, wait 4-5 seconds, the 7701, wait 4-5 seconds, then source device.
I've tried everything I could to get HDMI control to work the same way it did with my HX929 but couldn't fix the problem. My guess is this is a bug or a change in software/features. Both the KDL-55W900A and Marantz AV7701 have the latest firmware. I'm exchanging the TV for a KDL-55W950B(2014 model) because of other reasons and will post back with my findings.
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