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post #781 of 799 Old 12-07-2014, 08:58 AM
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Thank You, that is some great information. I looked, but could not find anything close to that level of info in the Owners Manual. Did I just miss it?
Part of it is in knowing how to interpret the poor English used by the manual's translators and having read the descriptions in previous generations of manuals.

But I verified what Auto does on my AVR before typing its description.

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Thanks for all the great info Selden and Jd.

I understand Audyssey provides more filters for the bass, but I've been impressed with the improvements in the mid range I get from my mains for music , and overall the sound is certainly more dynamic for movies.

But it doesn't seem to have done much for the bass frequency response. I have a ceiling height driven 25 Hz peak and a 1/4 wavelength 40 Hz dip. The Antimode 8033 I previously had at least got rid of the 25 Hz peak. But Audyssey doesn't seem to touch the frequency response. (All this measured using my established REW procedure). Any thoughts?
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Hi, Did you get answered for your query? I am also looking for answer...
The Oppo 105 DACs are better quality than the AV7701 which is why "some" prefer to use the multi analog outputs from the Oppo for music listening, however, doing so also disables Audyssey which "most" prefer using and why they forgo the analog connection and just use HDMI from the Oppo and therefore also using the 7701 DACs.

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After a lot of trial and error I've decided on this connection configuration to integrate my Marantz AV7701, OPPO BDP-103 and DirecTV HD-24 with my new Sony XBR 65X850B 4K TV

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HDMI(1) > DTV
HDMI(2) > OPPO
HDMI(3) > Marantz (Monitor 1)
Digital Optical out > Marantz (Digital Optical 1 in)

DTV
Digital Optical out > Marantz (Digital Optical 2 in)
HDMI > Sony HDMI(1)

OPPO
Digital Coax out > Marantz (Digital Coax 1 in)
HDMI > Sony HDMI(2)

To my mind this hookup scheme puts the Sony as the Hub of my Home Theatre and gives me the best video performance while maybe slightly sacrificing the audio performance possible if I would have utilized the Marantz AV7701 as the Hub. As Video was my top priority, this is the scheme I went with.

I'm a real novice at all of this, so I welcome any and all input and comments.
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Oppo 103 has (2) HDMI outputs .. configure HDMI 1 (video) to TV and HDMI 2 (audio) to AV7701. The current coax cable cannot pass the DD/DTS HD audio tracks.

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Oppo 103 has (2) HDMI outputs .. configure HDMI 1 (video) to TV and HDMI 2 (audio) to AV7701. The current coax cable cannot pass the DD/DTS HD audio tracks.
Thanks jdsmoothie, I'll give that a try after I pickup another HDMI cable.

After looking in the OPPO 103 manual, it looks as if this dual HDMI connection setup can potentially improve 3D.

A couple of questions: What aspect of 3D will this impact? And, is 3D the only format that will benefit from this connection configuration?

And thanks again, for this, and your previous input. It's been very informative.
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Not sure it will improve any video vs. simply connecting a single HDMI to the AV7701, rather simply suggesting that if you prefer to pass video to the TV, vice simply passing a single cable for both video/audio to the 7701, you would be better served audio quality wise using another HDMI cable in lieu of the coax cable.

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Not sure it will improve any video vs. simply connecting a single HDMI to the AV7701, rather simply suggesting that if you prefer to pass video to the TV, vice simply passing a single cable for both video/audio to the 7701, you would be better served audio quality wise using another HDMI cable in lieu of the coax cable.
Got it, Thanks.
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The Oppo 105 DACs are better quality than the AV7701 which is why "some" prefer to use the multi analog outputs from the Oppo for music listening, however, doing so also disables Audyssey which "most" prefer using and why they forgo the analog connection and just use HDMI from the Oppo and therefore also using the 7701 DACs.
Hi, Thanks!!

Do you know what DAC chip used in AV7701... I am not able to find anywhere.

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So per my previous post - I'm just a bit surprised that while overall Audyssey does a great job in mid range - it doesn't seem to be doing much in lower bass range. I've attached my results.
-With No EQ you can see my room problems of a large 25Hz peak (room height), 40Hz-50 dip and also in the 60-80Hz range (orange)
-Audyssey does bring the 60-80Hz up a bit, but doesn't do anything with the 25Hz peak or the 40-50Hz dip(GREEN)
- On the Other hand, the Anitmode 8033 I had used separately does a good job with those. Why doesn't Audyssey XT "higher number of filter it has for bass" to help with that, do you think?
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So per my previous post - I'm just a bit surprised that while overall Audyssey does a great job in mid range - it doesn't seem to be doing much in lower bass range. I've attached my results.
-With No EQ you can see my room problems of a large 25Hz peak (room height), 40Hz-50 dip and also in the 60-80Hz range (orange)
-Audyssey does bring the 60-80Hz up a bit, but doesn't do anything with the 25Hz peak or the 40-50Hz dip(GREEN)
- On the Other hand, the Anitmode 8033 I had used separately does a good job with those. Why doesn't Audyssey XT "higher number of filter it has for bass" to help with that, do you think?
Please consider bringing this up in the REW thread. There are many experts there who can help.
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Thanks Selden - will do. I've also posed this question to Audyssey technical service.
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1. Nope. No reason to use LFE+MAIN.
2. It means nothing if N802 set to LARGE and sub = LFE. However, if sub is set to LFE+MAIN (which it shouldn't be), then <40Hz is also passed to the sub resulting in double bass (and why LFE+MAIN should not be used). Set the N802 to SMALL/60Hz or SMALL/80Hz and sub to LFE.
Any suggestions on my Klipsch Reference 7II system settings? I have the RF-7 II, RC-64 II and the RS-62 II. Should I set those all to small also and go LFE. I just added an additional powered sub Klipsch R-115SW (I Have a Velodyne FSR-15 for the rear) and I'm playing with the Audyssey setup and I am getting some interesting results. Audyssey Sets the crossovers at 120 and puts the sub at -12 db LFE at 0. My room is roughly 20 x 25. I'm also considering turning off the rear sub during setup thinking it may be confusing Odyssey.

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Yes, set all speakers to SMALL and raise any crossovers set to 40Hz up to 60Hz or 80Hz (whichever you prefer) and leave any set above 80Hz alone. Knock the sub volume knob down a couple of knotches (ie, 50% to 30%) and run Audyssey again. If you're using 2 subs they should both be set to ON (not Auto) during the setup and ideally be placed equidistant from your main listening position.

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Hi, Thanks!!

Do you know what DAC chip used in AV7701... I am not able to find anywhere.
Anyone, please help me to find "what DAC chip used in AV7701"?? pls??

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Anyone, please help me to find "what DAC chip used in AV7701"?? pls??

Dear ALL, No one able to answer my query... I am very Sad... Please help me to find the answer.

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Dear ALL, No one able to answer my query... I am very Sad... Please help me to find the answer.

I am curious, why is this so important to you? I am sure it is very adequate.

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I am curious, why is this so important to you? I am sure it is very adequate.
Thanks for your reply...

I am using my bluray player and Media player for 2 channel music. I am planning for new Cd player for better audio quality.

I know there could be some good DAC inside AV7701... Just want to know to compare with Marantz CD6005.

If AV7701 DAC is good, then i can avoid buying Cd player.

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Goofy! Cable/SAT, Blu-ray works but when I go to play music on Network, unit tells me that server is disconnected. I will try a soft reboot but has this happened to anyone else?

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