Originally Posted by BR1060
Posted this generic question a while back, but have now narrowed my search to the Denon Series..
I don't like that the Denon isn't THX Certified (research suggests not to worry about that), but would a 5 year old Elite amplifier hold ground to a newer 2312 Series?
* Side note, there is buzzing in the speakers which can only be heard at low volumes, after trial and error, I believe this is resonating from the Pio Elite itself as I have taken all other factors out of the equation. This is part of the reason for my search.
Yes any receiver with like performance can hold ground. I downgraded from my AVR-3803 to the AVR-2312ci which is 8 years newer. I'm keeping my AVR-3803 unless someone can give me over $300 for it. No, it won't be by delivery (as packing costs eat so much into the selling price) but in person and no, I'm not selling it here. Right now I'm wanting to keep it.
I'm assuming that your receiver can use 7.1 PCM signals as many could back then. If so, no reason to upgrade as most BD players can convert bitstream into LPCM 7.1 so you'll get all the benefits of the newer formats.
You'll obviously gain 3D switching but if you buy a BD player with dual HDMI output, it's not a problem with your current receiver. 1 HDMI to the receiver for HD Audio formats and 1 HDMI to the TV for 3D. If you have a 3D cable box as I do, it's still no problem. Broadcast is still DD5.1 so just put the HDMI directly to the TV and send the optical/coaxial digital audio connection to your TV. If you want ease of switching through the receiver, use the HD component video output of the cable box and use the HDMI only for 3D content. Right now, Comcast only puts out 1080i anyhow.
Other than those 2 media devices, I don't see why your receiver would be obsolete.
My Denon AVR-3803 was obsolete due to no HDMI switching, no HDMI HD audio format decoding including LPCM 7.1, no DPL IIx or DPL IIz.
I only went to the AVR-2312ci for ease of HDMI audio switching for the wife and to get rid of so many cables going to the TV which are nothing but pull cords for kids.
Plus having 7.1 decoding for all audio formats instead of 6.1 plus the new HD audio formats is a plus.
Other than the switching convenience and surround upgrade to 7.1 DPL IIx/DD/DTS/HD audio, I didn't gain much. I found the Audyssey useless for room, as it won't work correctly without screwing up all the settings.
The AVR-3803 shines more with Stereo power as it can put out over 250 watts/channel into 4 ohms judging by the following years AVR-3805 power output according to S&V and HTM, and it's AL 24 processing.
Overall though, the processing in the AVR-2312ci is better with more configurable crossover setting for each speaker and not just globally for all. It also has more fine tuning for direct stereo sources.
Since I don't really need more power output, the AVR-2312ci does pretty good. In it's own right, it still delivers power output equivalent to some receiver maker's, 1 full model class above it.
At least compared to my AVR-3803, it's connectivity is much MUCH more limited not even having a phono input or a dedicated audio recording loop. Years ago, this model class would have both. In fact the AVR-2803 shared all 10 analog audio/video inputs of the AVR-3803 along with it's 2 A/V recording loops and 1 audio recording loop.
Since most like to record lossy, bit throw away, formats now a days, makers have done away with the dedicated audio recording loop. A/V recording loops have disappeared on many 2012 model year receivers most likely due to cable/satellite DVRs being so popular as many don't archive to DVD-R. I do, so I need both A/V and audio recording loops.
If I were in your shoes, I'd keep that Elite Receiver. However if you have a buzz in your speakers, you're receiver may be getting ready to quit on you. If you can find a source of intereference and fix it, then it's good to go. Otherwise, you may really need to get a new receiver as yours might just fail.
Good luck in your decision.