Wow, 19 pages in a few months. Admit I haven't read every page yet, will be working on that the next few days..
JoeRod, when do you think you will be done with your reviews? Really looking forward to it. Part of me wants to hear the new 3010/5010 is far superior to the 3009/5009, but the other part of me doesn't with the prices SO low on those older models now..
I have been looking at the comparison charts on Onkyo trying to decide what I really "Need" over what I really "Want".
I honestly started looking at the 616 vs. 818. The Power was #1 for me, as I do have a 7.1 (Tower speaker fronts, Mid size surrounds) in my theater room. Figured the power on the 616 wouldn't be high enough (I had that issue with my TSXR-605, not enough power even almost maxed, and had to go back to my OLD TSDX-787 which had to be one of the best amps of all times, it's like 15+ years old, still the most powerful amp, I just use an HDMI switch, but have lost TrueHD, etc.. so *thinking minimum would be the 818.
From the 616 to the 818, the only real differences I see are: (Leaving out Analog in/out type stuff)
135W vs 100W
3-Stage Inverted Darlington Circuitry (anyone help explain why this is important?)
Independent Block Construction (Amp/Preprocessor) (Ditto)
Bi-amp Capability For Front (Ditto)
DTS-HD Express (Ditto)
THX Processing Mode (Does this mean the others won't play THX material?)
isf Certified Calibration Control (Sounds like marketing)
additional coax audio input
RS232 port (used for?)
From the 818 to the 1010, the only main differences I see are:
5 Watts more power
.05 vs .08 Distortion (how impactful is this .03 diff?)
Push-Pull Design (Needed or Marketing?)
Digital Crossover Processing Network (?)
Additional Optical In (Front)
1 more HDMI input
3D video, Audio Return Channel, DeepColor, x.v.Color, LipSync, CEC - (This one concerns me about the last years models, none have this. That OK for HDMI not to have this? Sounds pretty crucial.)
From the 1010 to the 3010, the only main differences I see are: (Can't see justification here for these 2 main features. I know if you have 9.2 speakers setup that is different...)
So that leaves me really looking forward to JoeRod's review. Because it seems the 818 may do "almost" everything I would need, but at the price of the 818, If I can get the 3009 which provides the bonuses like:
No 4k Up-scaling (they do pass through? Don't care about any up-scaling)
No (advanced "Home" GUI)
It sounds like a no-brainer?
The main overall concern with last years models is the HDMI specs. How do they compare to this years? I notice it says (simultaneous out)
. Does this mean you can't have 2 inputs on 2 seperate outputs? So it's not a Matrix Switch, but a Splitter? That would suck. But I could continue to use my 4x4 Active Matrix Switch, just loose all HDMI feature capabilities then.