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You have a 3010 already?

No don't plan to upgrade from my 3009 just yet. I just wanted to clear up all the FUD being bandied about.
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FYI since some of you don't want to believe me....Chris from Audyssey has confirmed that the 1010 and 3010 along with the 5010 will feature SubEQ HT. https://audyssey.zendesk.com/forums/64676/entries/20953442.html
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FYI since some of you don't want to believe me....Chris from Audyssey has confirmed that the 1010 and 3010 along with the 5010 will feature SubEQ HT. https://audyssey.zendesk.com/forums/64676/entries/20953442.html

Thats great news and something that looked quite obvious due to the way the sub preouts were labeled on the 1010 and the 3010.

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Great work! So I guess Onkyo has decided it is only important in their 5010? eek.gif I am officially canceling my 3010 Review (since it will be very much like the 818 with slightly better sound which may or may not be noticable to most). I may do a "Take" on it down the road but with Onkyo being lazy or cheap I don't see the point in supporting the 3010 with trying to justify how it is "better" than the previous years model. I am sticking with a 3009 as a pre-pro and my next Review will be a Denon 4520. Again thanks Bucket23. smile.gif
My Wife will be happy to hear this. Especially since now we are expecting and since she was sentenced to bed rest we have been watching a lot of movies. Reviewing a 3010 won't interrupt time in the theater. cool.gif

The new news that the Onkyo 1010,3010 and 5010 will have Sub EQ change your review now on the 3010?????? smile.gif
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Yes! Breaking News: Onkyo 1010, 3010 and 5010 will indeed have SubEQ HT. I'm sorry we didn't have this info earlier, but we are not always the first to know.

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https://audyssey.zendesk.com/forums/64676/entries/20953442.html
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The new news that the Onkyo 1010,3010 and 5010 will have Sub EQ change your review now on the 3010?????? smile.gif

Yes, already changed. I guess my contact at Onkyo was right and Chris was wrong! eek.gif

Seriously how can he miss that? I guess we can't trust Audyssey to get their specs right either? Yes, this is good news and now I will check out the 3010. I apologize to Onkyo for the unfair comments. Review back on! smile.gif

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Also, can Audyssey room correction, dynamic eq and dynamic volume be used in conjunction with DTS Neo:X?
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Also, can Audyssey room correction, dynamic eq and dynamic volume be used in conjunction with DTS Neo:X?
Of course it can, why wouldn't it.
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Of course it can, why wouldn't it.

My Denon 3808 (of blessed memory) could do all the Audyssey items and PLIIX at the same time...but when it died I replaced it with a Pioneer 1120 which cannot do both level correction and PLIIZ at the same time - not enough power in the AVR (I realize it cannot do Audyssey, but it has its own level correction features). I did not expect this, so now I am gunshy about assuming AVRs can do multiple processing tasks at the same time. Due to these being the upper end AVRs, I suspected they could, but wanted to ask. Also, I if you use THX settings on the Onkyos (dunno about others), you cannot use the Audyssey EQ and Volume.
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Yes, already changed. I guess my contact at Onkyo was right and Chris was wrong! eek.gif
Seriously how can he miss that? I guess we can't trust Audyssey to get their specs right either? Yes, this is good news and now I will check out the 3010. I apologize to Onkyo for the unfair comments. Review back on! smile.gif

Well maybe Onkyo did not inform Audyssey (Chris) that they were adding SubEQ to the 1010 and the 3010. I would say Chris is a very busy guy who has more items to keep up with than just Onkyo AVRs wink.gif. In fact it really isn't a spec per se but whether a specific manufacturer is including a set feature. I would trust that Chris knows his product and its capabilities better than anyone. I feel Chris' contribution to AVS has been beneficial to many members here. My respect or trust for him due to the fact that he was not on top of the 1010 and 3010 SubEQ question is not diminished in the least.

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I agree, it is Onkyo's fault that Audyssey did not know it was being put into these AVRs.
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Hello,
That is great news about the 1010 and 3010 both offering SubEQ HT. I am disappointed to see the 3010/5010 no longer offer a MCH Input. Again, it is hard to find a compelling reason to get the 5000 Series over the 3000 Series.
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Yes, already changed. I guess my contact at Onkyo was right and Chris was wrong! eek.gif
Seriously how can he miss that? I guess we can't trust Audyssey to get their specs right either? Yes, this is good news and now I will check out the 3010. I apologize to Onkyo for the unfair comments. Review back on! smile.gif

While I would trust Chris for his product knowledge on anything Audyssey, in this case it would have been better to trust your Onkyo rep. As Chris puts it, they license the tech and it's up to Onkyo how they want to implement it.
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Thats great news and something that looked quite obvious due to the way the sub preouts were labeled on the 1010 and the 3010.
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Absolutely obvious to me...a big clue was how the 818 which is in the same generation was labeled how the others differed from that. Did anyone seriously think Onkyo would endow its second to the top of the line receiver with 4 subouts that send out the same signal for all, I don't think so.
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My Denon 3808 (of blessed memory) could do all the Audyssey items and PLIIX at the same time...but when it died I replaced it with a Pioneer 1120 which cannot do both level correction and PLIIZ at the same time - not enough power in the AVR (I realize it cannot do Audyssey, but it has its own level correction features). I did not expect this, so now I am gunshy about assuming AVRs can do multiple processing tasks at the same time. Due to these being the upper end AVRs, I suspected they could, but wanted to ask. Also, I if you use THX settings on the Onkyos (dunno about others), you cannot use the Audyssey EQ and Volume.

On my 3009 you can use THX along with Dynamic EQ and Volume, you just have to defeat the THX loudness plus.
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First off I would not blame Onkyo for any of the confusion because they never stated SubEQ either way. Secondly, while I am sure Chris does contribute a lot here and many are most grateful but when point blank asked whether the 1010 and 3010 had it he said NO. If it was speculation then he should have said that. He should have researched it before typing an answer if there was a chance he would be wrong. I wouldn't have offered up an answer if I was not 100% sure. Just my 2 cents...

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I'm stoked that Onkyo will include it. on the 1010 and up. It looks more to me that Onkyo weren't going to include but have since changed their mind. Maybe their marketing was getting messed up with the engineers. The whole Onkyo/Integra seems a mess to me, especially with the fiasco of the 50.4.
And yes, I would believe an AVR manufacturer would do anything in relation to features and cost, it's in their nature. Why let the truth come between a good story and a sale.
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Some great nws on the Sub EQ HT!

Some not so great news on the 11 ch playback. The external amp has to be connected to FRONT WIDE PRE OUT. I would prefer to use the amp on the fronts and/or center than the FWPO's. It makes more sense, to me, to use the lesser (assumed) power of the internal amp for the presense speakers.

Mentioned several times in the manual linked earlier (maybe it's not the final draft...?).

Pages: 14, 47, 66

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Yes, already changed. I guess my contact at Onkyo was right and Chris was wrong! eek.gif
Seriously how can he miss that? I guess we can't trust Audyssey to get their specs right either? Yes, this is good news and now I will check out the 3010. I apologize to Onkyo for the unfair comments. Review back on! smile.gif

When Chris was quoted as having confirmed it wouldn't be included I hadn't lost hope.  I don't know how big a company Audyssey is, but I work for large health care system and I can tell you that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing far to frequently.  I'm sure Chris was offering the most updated information he had access too and shouldn't be judged too harshly.

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Some great nws on the Sub EQ HT!
Some not so great news on the 11 ch playback. The external amp has to be connected to FRONT WIDE PRE OUT. I would prefer to use the amp on the fronts and/or center than the FWPO's. It makes more sense, to me, to use the lesser (assumed) power of the internal amp for the presense speakers.
Mentioned several times in the manual linked earlier (maybe it's not the final draft...?).
Pages: 14, 47, 66

That is how I understand it as well. Not too horrible a thing, though, as the front wides are more important than the rest of the surrounds at least.
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First off I would not blame Onkyo for any of the confusion because they never stated SubEQ either way.

Why not? Thats the point they did not say anything either way and it is their product. If Onkyo just came out and said in the early release previews what each of their AVRs had for features then it would not have been an issue. I have seen many times in recent years where the features of Onkyo AVR/prepros was incorrect on their own site. Of course Onkyo would never make a mistake wink.gif.
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Secondly, while I am sure Chris does contribute a lot here and many are most grateful but when point blank asked whether the 1010 and 3010 had it he said NO.

As has been stated before Audyssey doesn't select which features of Audyssey are in specific manufacturers AVR/prepros. It is up to Onkyo to decide what a specific AVR/prepro has for Audyssey features such as SubEQ. How about the big question with the 5508 or the 5509 whether Pro was going to be available. Would that also be Audyssey's fault due to Onkyo not communicating to its customers that it was available or not?

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If it was speculation then he should have said that. He should have researched it before typing an answer if there was a chance he would be wrong. I wouldn't have offered up an answer if I was not 100% sure. Just my 2 cents...

The bottom line is Chris' made a mistake and apologized for it. Below is a quote from Chris on the Audyssey site.

Yes! Breaking News: Onkyo 1010, 3010 and 5010 will indeed have SubEQ HT. I'm sorry we didn't have this info earlier, but we are not always the first to know.

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Anyone think there will be any change in sound with the 3009 vs the 3010?
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I get he apologized and I accept that. I still don't see blaming Onkyo since these newer units were just announced. The only confirmation from them I received was from an inside source. Of course when Chris stated they did not include the feature I took his word as the gospel since he is Audyssey. They don't even list SubEQ on their site in their specs yet. I am working to get that changed. Oh and lastly, I do not work for Onkyo. I just Review their receivers and have always been a fan. And when Chris said they werent including SubEQ I came down hard on them. I cal it like I see (or hear) it. smile.gif

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Anyone think there will be any change in sound with the 3009 vs the 3010?

I will know very soon. I actually have a 1010 arriving on or around Friday. I expect the sound to be very close with all three units (1010, 3010 & 5010). I intend to add the1010 to my 3010 Review. Might as well kill two birds with one stone.

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I get he apologized and I accept that. I still don't see blaming Onkyo since these newer units were just announced. The only confirmation from them I received was from an inside source. Of course when Chris stated they did not include the feature I took his word as the gospel since he is Audyssey. They don't even list SubEQ on their site in their specs yet. I am working to get that changed. Oh and lastly, I do not work for Onkyo. I just Review their receivers and have always been a fan. And when Chris said they werent including SubEQ I came down hard on them. I cal it like I see (or hear) it. smile.gif

I would have to say with your inside source you would have been able to find out if the 1010 and the 3010 had SubEQ from the beginning. I guess you still do not grasp the point that Onkyo did not inform Audyssey that they were including SubEQ in the 1010 and the 3010. I would say your bias towards Onkyo has you coming down harder on Chris than you would on Onkyo IMO. Of course you do not want to lose or upset your inside source at Onkyo by saying anything negative towards Onkyo (reviews included) wink.gif. I call it like I see it as well.

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Do you even know what SubEQ HT is? If you read the excerpt that I posted from the manual that should tell you that the 3010 has SubEQ HT. To use your argument that no where in the manual it says that it has SubEQ HT, you have to remember that this the manual for the 5010 as well, so by your logic the 5010 doesn't have it either. My 3009 which definitely has SubEQ HT manual is similarly written. If you read the manual it says both outputs level and distance can be set individually, as per Audyssey's website this is their definition as to what SubEQ is all about "Audyssey Sub EQ HT ensures that the level and delay for each subwoofer is correct before integrating them into the equalization solution." http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/sub-eq-ht

While being able to set distance and gain for each sub output is a requirement for subEQ HT, being able to do this does not guarantee that subEQ HT is implemented. It would be like concluding that since you can set the distance and gain on each channel for a given receiver, XT32 is included.

If you have 4 subs and each sub is at a different distance, how is it going to set the distance? Is it going to take an average of the 2 subs on each channel?
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That is how I understand it as well. Not too horrible a thing, though, as the front wides are more important than the rest of the surrounds at least.

Why are the front wides more important?

I would think the main surrounds are much more important. The rear surrounds, heights, and wides produce ambient sound while the main surrounds produce distinct sounds.
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