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Onkyo, one of the world's leading manufacturers of home cinema and hi-fi, is proud to announce the release of three new models at the top of its A/V receiver line for 2012.

This release includes a new, lavishly outfitted nine-channel flagship, the stunning TX-NR5010 Network A/V Receiver; a more affordable nine-channel alternative, the TX-NR3010 Network A/V Receiver; and lastly, a high-power seven-channel solution, the value-packed TX-NR1010 Network A/V Receiver.

Onkyo invests considerable resources in research and development each year to find innovative ways to enhance the performance, quality and value of its products. When beneficial, the company also forms strategic alliances with external partners to source specialist technology that enhances the product. The fruit of this investment is clearly evident in these three new releases, with an across-the-board focus on high performance technology:

* THX Ultra2 Plus certification to recreate the cinematic experience with dynamic Reference Level sound in larger home cinemas (up to 85 cubic meters in size and at a viewing distance of approximately 3.5 metres).
* 11.4-channel pre-outs with DTS Neo:X 11-channel upmixing support on both the TX-NR5010 and TX-NR3010, another world first for Onkyo.
* First consumer electronics partner to incorporate Cisco Linksys' SimpleTap router connection technology.
* Audyssey MultEQ XT32 room equalization with multi-channel upmixing from DTS Neo:X, Audyssey DSX, and Dolby Pro Logic IIz.
* An additional HDMI output to enable 1080p playback on a second TV or zone.
* Front-panel Mobile High-Definition Link HDMI port for phone/camcorder.
* Extra HDMI inputs to support 3D Video plus Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio (8+1 inputs on all three models).
* InstaPrevue picture-in-picture video input preview and selection technology.
* Bluetooth 3.0 and aptX wireless audio streaming via optional adapter.


http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/articles/onkyo-unveils-three-high-end-a-v-receivers-including-new-tx-nr5010-flagship-83293.html
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Back panel looks half empty! Plenty of room to add XLR connections and truly make it a stand-out receiver. 11.4 meaning 4 sub outs! Wonder if they are just all the same or if there is any differentiation for sides or front-back?
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Very disappointed in the 1010. Why only 7 channel and not 9 channel? Makes the 1009 seem more abundant minus the xt32.
Makes the 818 a better deal to me.

Hopefully the 3010 will be a better price this year.
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What Hi-Fi UK says the following:

All three new Onkyo AV receivers are due on sale in August, with prices as follows:

Onkyo TX-NR5010 - £3000

Onkyo TX-NR3010 - £2500

Onkyo TX-NR1010 - £2000

http://www.whathifi.com/news/onkyo-announces-three-new-flagship-av-receivers
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06/27/12 - UPPER SADDLE RIVER, NJ (6/27/12) -- Onkyo, the world’s leading manufacturer of home theater and hi-fi equipment, announces the release of three new models at the top of its A/V receiver line for 2012. The lineup includes the world's first full 11.4-channel implementation of DTS Neo:X™, and the first use of Cisco Linksys' SimpleTap technology in an audio/video component.
This release includes a new lavishly outfitted nine-channel flagship, the stunning TX-NR5010 Network A/V Receiver; a more moderately priced nine-channel alternative, the TX-NR3010 Network A/V Receiver; and lastly, a high-power seven-channel solution, the value-packed TX-NR1010 Network A/V Receiver.

Onkyo invests considerable resources in research and development each year to find innovative ways to enhance the performance, quality and value of its products. When beneficial, the company also forms strategic alliances with external partners to source specialty technology that enhances the product. The fruit of this investment is clearly evident in these three new releases, with an across-the-board focus on high performance technology:

THX® Ultra2 Plus™ certification to recreate the cinematic experience with dynamic Reference Level sound to larger home theaters up to 85 cubic meters in size and a viewing distance of approximately 3.5 meters

11.4-channel pre-outs with DTS Neo:X™ 11-channel upmixing support for both the TX-NR5010 and TX-NR3010, another world first for Onkyo

First consumer electronics partner to incorporate Cisco Linksys' SimpleTap technology

Audyssey MultEQ® XT32 room equalization with multi-channel upmixing from DTS Neo:X™, Audyssey DSX®, and Dolby® Pro Logic® IIz

An additional HDMI® output to enable 1080p playback in a second zone

InstaPrevue™ picture-in-picture video input preview and selection technology

Front-panel Mobile High-Definition Link™ HDMI port for phone/camcorder

Extra HDMI inputs to support 3D Video plus Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio™ (8+1 inputs on all three models)

Bluetooth 3.0 and aptX® wireless audio streaming via optional adapter

With Ethernet for access to preloaded audio streaming channels such as Spotify, and connectivity for smart phones, tablets, and PC via DLNA or Bluetooth, these receivers are designed for seamless integration into users’ digital lifestyles and to distribute entertainment throughout the home.

Because of the importance of superior usability in the connected home, Onkyo has been working with Cisco to incorporate SimpleTap that delivers better experiences to mutual broader set of customers. With the inclusion in these three high-end receivers, Onkyo becomes the first company to integrate SimpleTap technology into CE products. Firmware updates will be available to enable all 2012 Onkyo Network enabled receivers to take advantage of this new technology.

"We share the vision that the connected home should be simple and enjoyable, and we are proud to be the first consumer electronics partner to incorporate Cisco Linksys' SimpleTap technology into our new AV receivers," said Nobuaki Okuda, president, Onkyo Sound & Vision Corporation. "SimpleTap really simplifies how our new 2012 AV receiver can be connected to the network, so people can instantly enjoy their favorite tunes from music streaming services such as Pandora, Spotify, SiriusXM Internet Radio and many other services."

HDMI connectivity has also been enhanced by adding Zone2 HDMI connectivity that removes the need for a secondary analog connection in order to access audio in a second zone. Powered audio is available in up to three zones simultaneously—with multi-zone playback and setting controls managed by remote app.

The receiver’s primary role, however, is always at the heart of the home theater system, as well as providing transcendent stereo playback for music. As audio and video processors, these three receivers are unrivalled in their respective categories.

To conjure up the signature Onkyo sound, audio signals are passed through a sophisticated digital-to-analog conversion stage, with PLL jitter-cleaning, VLSC™ noise-mitigation, and top-quality TI Burr-Brown DAC modules working to create a pristine analog waveform.

Signals are then amplified through discrete Three-Stage Inverted Darlington Circuitry, with a triple transistor array that cuts distortion and boosts current flow to the speakers. This innovative amplifier design capitalizes on the unique benefits offered by a low negative feedback topology, preserving the life, vitality, and realism of the audio as it was originally recorded. Outputted through discrete transistors, the resulting sound further burnishes Onkyo’s reputation as the masters of high fidelity audio.

For optimum video performance, all three models feature Onkyo’s Dual Core Video Engine—hailed as the best video processing system currently available. This system pairs the mighty HQV® Vida™ VHD1900 module with Marvell’s Qdeo™ technology for seamless upscaling to 4K. ISF video calibration further enhances smooth and vivid picture quality.

The flagship TX-NR5010 is aimed squarely at the avid home theater enthusiast. As part of the THX certification promise, this receiver is designed to deliver the highest audio and video quality for an unsurpassed home cinema experience right out of the box. Housed in a rigid chassis with separate anti-resonant aluminum top and side panels, the unit has a massive toroidal transformer supported by two discrete transformers for audio and video processing. With gold-plated audio terminals and speaker posts, this unit is fastidiously outfitted to audiophile-grade specifications.

Like its slightly more powerful sibling, TX-NR3010 also boasts multiple transformers for A/V processing, but features a heavy-duty EI transformer in place of toroidal power. All models feature isolated power and preamp blocks to reduce interference with super-rigid chassis to prevent vibration.

A new Differential DAC Mode and Digital Crossover Processing Network are also included on all three models to optimize performance when bi-wiring and bi-amping the front channels—further demonstrating Onkyo’s commitment to audiophile-level sound.

With everything from an analog video input for PC to a generous mix of optical and coaxial digital audio inputs, all three models boast an exhaustive the list of A/V connections. In addition to the capacity to link with an iPhone®, iPod®, or flash memory device, these models include two USB ports in the front and rear to accommodate the UWF-1 Wireless LAN Adapter and UBT-1 Bluetooth USB Adapter (sold separately).

Onkyo made these heavyweights not only the best-looking, best-finished A/V receivers on the market, but also the easiest to set up and use. The 1080p overlaid display with Quick Set-Up function enables fast mid-program adjustment, while remote control apps for Android-powered phones and iPhone offer access to system settings, as well as playback control from anywhere in the home.

The descendents of a long line of award-winning A/V products, these three unique receivers are a triumph of imagination and engineering, and demonstrate Onkyo's commitment to keeping pace with dynamic and evolving technology while faithfully maintaining its traditional insistence on build quality and complete audio integrity.

The Onkyo TX-NR5010, TX-NR3010 and TX-NR1010 receivers will be available in July with suggested retail prices of $2999, $2299 and $1799, respectively.

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I don't like the looks of the 5010 remote.......looks like it does not have as many lighted buttons as the 5009 (same for the Denon AVR 4520 remote vs the Denon AVR 4311 remote). I always use the unit remote so it would be nice and EXPECTED that it would be a properly lighted remote and not downgraded.......the prices are not down but up.
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c'mon, you buy a $ 3000 receiver and has no money to buy a any harmony?
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Seems like a reasonable assumption that (at least) the TX-NR5010 will support the E-Onkyo streaming (high quality) music service when and if it (E-Onkyo) is introduced in USA in late 2012. I've written to Onkyo previously seeking confirmation of that, but have not heard back as of June 27, 2012.
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c'mon, you buy a $ 3000 receiver and has no money to buy a any harmony?

I like to use the remote that comes with the unit.......at this level I expect it to be properly lighted..........as in the past.......$3599 Can$ for the 5010.........
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So how is the 5010 going to do 11.4 channels?

Will you be able to play all 11 channels from the speaker jacks?

Or will you have to use the pre outs for two of the channels with an external amp?

I have the NR5008 which was billed as 11.2 channels but you could only ever play 9.2 channels at the same time.

Hopefully the NR5010 will be the first true 11 channel receiver that will play all 4 surrounds as well as both front high and front wide at the same time.

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So how is the 5010 going to do 11.4 channels?
Will you be able to play all 11 channels from the speaker jacks?
Or will you have to use the pre outs for two of the channels with an external amp?
I have the NR5008 which was billed as 11.2 channels but you could only ever play 9.2 channels at the same time.
Hopefully the NR5010 will be the first true 11 channel receiver that will play all 4 surrounds as well as both front high and front wide at the same time.

You need a 2 channel amp to do 11. The .4 looks like it's really a .2 with a couple of internal Y splitters.

The Denon 4311 can do 11 channels at the same time using an external amp, audyssey dsx and dolby PL-IIc.
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I've been holding out upgrading from my 805 for an AVR that can do all 11 channels simultaneously. I use an external amp for the 5 main channels  I really want the XT32 for sub equalization so the 4311 was out and I'm partial to Onkyo sound over Denon. If this really can do all 11 channels I'm finally ready to jump on board and get some height speakers and wide speakers put up.( and keep my back surrounds)

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I really want the XT32 for sub equalization so the 4311 was out and I'm partial to Onkyo sound over Denon.

The 4311 has XT32
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The 4311 has XT32

Indeed it does as I only recalled it being XT.  Now it begs the question is the onkyo dts Neo with 11 channels hopefully on the 3010/5010 sound better than the 4311 DSX 11 channels.  One regular contributor familar with both preferred the DTS Neo over the audyssey version even though it was limited to 9 vs 11 on the Denon. As I learned that all the MultEX does sub equalization, not only the 32, just that it gives far more points of correction which many seem to find makes a noticeble improvement in the sound.

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When i look at the integra website they have produced 2 new bluray players. The DBS50.3 has 7 channel analog outputs, yet the new 50.4 receiver picture shows no multichannel inputs. Yet it is listed in the specs. Seems odd to me to produce a player this way and not a receiver???
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Is it going to be pro ready ?
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If you dislike Onkyo's remote, use your smartphone.
Iphone app "oRemote" is amazing
or Onkyo app...
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Indeed it does as I only recalled it being XT.  Now it begs the question is the onkyo dts Neo with 11 channels hopefully on the 3010/5010 sound better than the 4311 DSX 11 channels.  One regular contributor familar with both preferred the DTS Neo over the audyssey version even though it was limited to 9 vs 11 on the Denon. As I learned that all the MultEX does sub equalization, not only the 32, just that it gives far more points of correction which many seem to find makes a noticeble improvement in the sound.

If you have dual subs, the difference between xt32 and xt is more than more increased sampling size. That is unless you're getting a 818 which uses xt32, but not dual sub calibration.

I haven't listened to 11 channel neo:x as there aren't any commercially available receivers that support it, but there is no source content for the heights and wides with audyssey and neo, so both would have to fake it. With Audyssey, the wides and heights seem to only produce background noise and I would guess neo would do the same. The heights and wides are supposed to be used for ambiance, not primary sounds. I can't imagine there would be large difference between the 2. In the future there may be 11.x source material, so there may a more noticeable diffrence in several years.
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On the back of the 5010 there are no multi channel inputs like there are on the 5008.

I would seriously consider an upgrade if I did not have to accept a downgrade to get one.

There is plenty of room on the back of he 5010, why not include the multi channel inputs???

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So these do HDMI to zone 2, but do they decode HDMI audio (PCM 2.0) to zone 2?

IE, can I play music on my HTPC through HDMI, and pump that to zone 2 while playing a 5.1 movie in zone 1? No other receiver can, but I keep crossing my fingers anyway!
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Is it going to be pro ready ?


Anyone, it's key to me considering this upgrade
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So these do HDMI to zone 2, but do they decode HDMI audio (PCM 2.0) to zone 2?
IE, can I play music on my HTPC through HDMI, and pump that to zone 2 while playing a 5.1 movie in zone 1? No other receiver can, but I keep crossing my fingers anyway!


If they are like earlier models, they'll pass only analog sources to Zones 2 and 3.

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Anyone, it's key to me considering this upgrade

Not trying to be rude, but how are we suppose to know??? There is a small press release and we are all reading from the same limited info. Have you tried to e-mail Onkyo?
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On the back of the 5010 there are no multi channel inputs like there are on the 5008.
I would seriously consider an upgrade if I did not have to accept a downgrade to get one.
There is plenty of room on the back of he 5010, why not include the multi channel inputs???

I can't believe the 5010 a top of the line AVR does not have a 7.1 analog input. It also appears that Onkyo is staying with using the 12v triggers for Zone2/3 only rolleyes.gif. Going back as far as the 805 Onkyo had this bothed (IMO) setup. I guess Onkyo doesn't quite understand why an AVR with preouts might need a 12v trigger(s) for the Main Zone.

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Here is a link to the PDF that was released in UK, waiting for the US version:

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/downloads/2/2/4/1/0/ONKYO_TX-NR5010_datasheet_EN.pdf
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No mention of Audyssey LFC. Maybe the Denon 4520...
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I guess Onkyo doesn't quite understand why an AVR with preouts might need a 12v trigger(s) for the Main Zone.
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+1!!

As it is now I have to leave my external amp on all the time wasting electricity.

If it was just me in the house I would turn off/on the external amp manually but the cats and dogs would protest to that extra step.

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For a Flagship product the TX-NR5010 continues the trend of removing legacy inputs/outputs on the back while still asking a high price. As another person said it feels like now a days you need to downgrade in order to upgrade. Denon I'll put in the same boat until I see a back picture of the AVR-4520.

Can't either Denon or Onkyo release a now holds bar Recevier or Pre/Pro anymore no matter what the cost would be?
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For a Flagship product the TX-NR5010 continues the trend of removing legacy inputs/outputs on the back while still asking a high price. As another person said it feels like now a days you need to downgrade in order to upgrade. Denon I'll put in the same boat until I see a back picture of the AVR-4520.
Can't either Denon or Onkyo release a now holds bar Recevier or Pre/Pro anymore no matter what the cost would be?

In a weird way denon still does that with the avp and 5308 once you have the 3d upgrade. You have enough inputs with a avp trust me smile.gif. Only thing missing is full 11.3 support you are limited to 9.3.

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What distinguishes the NR1010 from the 3009? It seems like they are basically identical and the price of the 3009 continues to drop. Soon it seems like the 3009 will be down to around $1200. For an extra $400 it seems like the 3009 is much better than the 818. Am I missing something??

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