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too bad.

Can I get an adapter to connect the iPad to the receiver to get video?
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I read in the Paradigm manual about vertical bi amping where one amp is dedicated to one speaker and another amp dedicated to another speaker. I just received cables and am ready to try this with my SR7007 only there is no diagram on where to connect the speaker cables. It does show how to connect for horizontal bi amping though.

Do any of you know how to do this for vertical bi amping?

If I connect one amp to the left speaker and one to the right speaker how does the SR7007 know that the "Front A" amp is the left speaker and the "Surround Back" is the right speaker?


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Vertical bi-amping using the 7007 amps is nothing more than connecting the speaker posts normally (ie. no bi-amping), rather you would need to connect the FL/FR pre-outs to external amps to achieve your goal, although not likely to provide any benefit.

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Ok I am just trying to get as much as I can out of this 7007 and Paradigms. Right now it sounds very nice at louder volumes 52-62 or so. I have them bi-amped (horiz) now and it seems like I don't have to turn volume up that high to have a nice full sound since I bi-amped them. I'm not sure if that is the placebo effect or not yet.

I still need to run Audyssey - right now it's off and music sounds very good. Here is what the Paradigm manual says:


"Bi-wire Connection (Fig. 7b)
Bi-wiring can improve clarity and openness, with less grain and more solidity to the bass. Two cables are required for each speaker that you bi-wire.


Bi-amp Connection (Fig. 7c)
Passive bi-amping offers a dramatic improvement in clarity, openness and detail, with much better bass solidity and definition. The presentation of music and movie soundtracks is simply more intelligible and transparent.
With passive bi-amping, the speaker’s internal passive crossovers remain connected. An external electronic crossover is not required and cannot be used (there is no direct electrical access to individual drive units). This saves expense and setup difficulties. Passive bi-amping optimizes your speaker to achieve the best possible high-end performance. To bi-amplify, two power amplifiers are required. Connection can be either vertical or horizontal.


IMPORTANT! When bi-amping, always use amplifiers with identical gain. If uniform amplifier gain is not maintained the speaker-to-speaker balance will be incorrect when vertically bi-amped, or the speaker system’s frequency balance will be incorrect when horizontally bi-amped. To prevent problems use identical amplifiers (Brand and Model) and in identical operating modes (single channel or bridged).


Vertical Bi-amplification dedicates one amplifier to each speaker. This configuration provides complete channel separation, which optimizes your system’s imaging ability. Connect your speakers to one amplifier at a time.


Horizontal Bi-amplification dedicates one amplifier to your speakers’ mid/ low-frequency inputs and another to their high-frequency inputs. This con- figuration can maintain better clarity when listening at loud levels—if low- frequency demands cause amplifier clipping, distortion will still be kept away from high-frequency drivers. Connect your speakers to one amplifier at a time."
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Placebo .. but if you believe they sound better ... so be it ... it's your setup.

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Seriously!? Hmmmm.... why do people lie about something that can be tested. Not just with ears but with sound instruments. I don't get it. I would think this could be verified scientifically as to how much sound is being put out (or not) as a result of bi-amping. That would settle things.

As for the subjective quality of sound, yes that is in the eye of the beholder of course. I understand that.

Frustrating. Thanks JDSmoothie.
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It has been tested, which is why the response. There's only one power supply so just because you connect two sets of wires doesn't mean the speakers can draw more power. Truly effective "bi-amping" consists of using individual external crossovers and amps for each set of speaker posts. The AVR simply uses the same power supply to send the same signal to each set of speaker posts which then use the speaker's internal crossover.

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Hey guys,

I was wondering if it was possible on the Marantz SR7007 to play audio from one source and video from another (e.g. I want to play my ps4, but for audio I want the receiver to play from my bluetooth receiver). Tried looking for answers to no avail.

Thanks for the help!
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This would only work if it's possible to connect the audio source via optical/digital coax/analog using the same source name as the HDMI video source such that while playing the PS4 you would change the INPUT MODE to Digital or analog as appropriate.
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It has been tested, which is why the response. There's only one power supply so just because you connect two sets of wires doesn't mean the speakers can draw more power. Truly effective "bi-amping" consists of using individual external crossovers and amps for each set of speaker posts. The AVR simply uses the same power supply to send the same signal to each set of speaker posts which then use the speaker's internal crossover.
Ok now we are getting somewhere! Who tested it and is there a write up about that?

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Cool Play video and audio from different sources

How do I configure the Sr7007 to allow video source from one input and audio to all 7.1 speakers from a different source.

I have a play room that I'd like to play my tunes while adults are playing pool, while the kids play video games on the TV.

I read the zone configuration and it seems like it will only work on two speakers.

I bought the 7.2 HSU speaker package. Great speakers and subwoofer by the way!

Thank You for any advice in advance.

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^^I think you would grab an unused input, and assign the video source as HDMI (video game) and the audio source Digital x (the music)...?
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Just read jdsmoothie approach as well, both sound possible.
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How do I configure the Sr7007 to allow video source from one input and audio to all 7.1 speakers from a different source.

I have a play room that I'd like to play my tunes while adults are playing pool, while the kids play video games on the TV.

I read the zone configuration and it seems like it will only work on two speakers.

I bought the 7.2 HSU speaker package. Great speakers and subwoofer by the way!

Thank You for any advice in advance.

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There are a couple of ways to do it depending on the video source:

1. HDMI video source - External audio source cannot be another HDMI input or networking source; however, if using an external audio source, ensure it is using the same input source name (eg.Blu Ray) and then change the INPUT MODE for the HDMI video source to either "Digital" or "Analog" depending on the connection used to the AVR.

2. Analog video source - With the music source selected, using the Option - Video Source setting (p. 129 Owner's manual), select the analog video source

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Apologies if this has been covered before. Have been a Marantz owner for many years, so am relatively familiar with the hiss issue.

However, what I would like to know if you can assist....... why is the hiss/distortion noisier for my DVD input compared to Blu Ray and other inputs? There's a noticeable difference. One item to note nothing is connected to the DVD input. (all connections are HDMI just in case and follow similar paths).

Many thanks in advance.
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Newbie here with a SR7007 that replaced a Sony 333ES because of a cold solder joint on one of the boards that had been repaired twice in the past which was acting up again , no HDMI abilities and also unable to decode BLURAY audio. I ended up buying new from Crutchfield , very little price difference from Accessories For Less. My speakers are Klipsch R 3 series and a SW12. I unboxed the unit everything arrived unscathed kudos to Crutchfield on the packing , I proceeded to hook up the unit everything seemed o.k. Had some trouble with the whole HDMI handshake thing but finally got it sorted out . Well now it's about 1:00 am so after getting up at 5:00 am the previous day I decided to call it quits.

Well on to day 2 I proceeded to set up the audio side of things. This is where the wheels fell off , very low audio output with virtually no bass response after running the Audessy set up. I added subwoofer output through the AVR but could never really get any of the "punch" that the Sony had , just seemed to muddy the sound. I narrowed the microphone placements and ran the set up again , this seemed to help somewhat but still VERY lacking in overall sound level and bass output. I started a chat with Crutcfield , the person on the chat line could type and remind me that I had a 60 day return policy but that was about it. I called the tech assist line there and got through very quickly talked to someone who was a little more helpful at least he new what an eq does but still no real help. Well feeling a little dejected at this point I started thinking about returning the unit and pursuing other options.

On to day 3 I had to do some Christmas shopping so I had my daughter drive so I could try and sort this issue out while she dealt with traffic. I called Emotiva and confirmed the dates for their holiday sale , they said it was good through the end of the year. Well there was an option , 5 channel amp and a pre unit but I really didn't want to spend any more money than I already had. So still doing some head scratching I remembered that my speakers can be Bi/amped , well there's an idea. When we got home I took off the jumpers on the speaker posts and ran them to the assignable amp outputs of the SR7007 and ran the set up again. Well this seemed to help the most out of everything else I had tried so I felt like I was making some progress. Still very low volume but some more bass output than before not much but at least there was an improvement. Then I found the slider for the input levels , well now that made the difference!!! So now after listening to a few different audio c/d's and watching a few movies and tweeking the subwoofer levels all is good . Audessy set the subwoofer at -5.9db , I moved that up to plus 1 and maxed out the digital input level. Now we are back to feeling the movies and music like I could with the Sony.

Well I'm sure the way I have my settings may not be the best or the correct way to remedy my issues but they work for me. The room is about 20 feet square and 9 foot ceilings with hardwood floors , a wall of windows and a stone fireplace. The room opens into the kitchen with a bar area and a open area to the front of the house . So no real way for any serious spl and plenty of reflections to boot with the wall of windows. I'm thinking a Tuba HT added to the mix should help fill the room LOL.
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Sr7007

I just got mine a few days ago and have the same problem with the audio, where is the slider?
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Hey all, I'm new to this thread but I've read the first 15 pages or so. I just ordered a SR7007 - a sale price this weekend was just too good to pass up. I actually also bought a SR6008 (which will be returned or sold), and seriously considered the SR7008 mainly due to the XT32 and 9.2 capability, but couldn't justify the $500+ difference.

My current AVR is a Denon 3310, which replaced a Yamaha RXV1200. I actually ended up with the Yamaha back in 2001 after purchasing a Marantz SR6200; I LOVED the sound of that receiver but had unresolvable problems with the video switching. My first one went back to the factory for repairs, but returned with the problem; the second unit had the same issue. At that point, my retailer recommended Yamaha for rock solid reliability - this turned out to be very true for the next 10 years. That said, I missed the "Marantz sound", which I would describe as being "airy" compared both the Yamaha and Denon.

I find that with the Denon, the sound gets a little "edgy" when I drive the system hard - this is probably the beginning of clipping. I don't know if the year-newer amps in the 7007 are stronger or weaker than in the 3310. Although I'd like to get rid of my Adcom GFA-555 and GFA-545ii power amps, I may need to continue to use them to power the fronts & center (maybe I'll need them even more). My room is about 22x18x7.5ft.

Anyway, if I get the 7007 tomorrow I will have time to set it up later in the week and provide my feedback on the forum; otherwise, I may have to wait until the 27th for UPS to deliver.

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ZOODUSTER Setup , Inputs , Source Level , Digital Inputs
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Thank you, found it....was at 1/2 scale (0db). Can't fire up the unit untill everyone goes shopping. Hope this helps
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Post up what you think about how it changed the sound. I think it helped more than just the volume
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