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post #1381 of 1396 Old 06-18-2014, 02:27 PM - Thread Starter
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Today, I called a respected audio dealer who sells both the Bryston SP3 and the Krell Foundation. I asked him if he'd heard both and he said yes. I further asked him which was the better processor and he stated if you like features get the Krell Foundation, but if you are a sound purist, get the Bryston SP3 as it was WAY better sounding then the Krell. I also asked him if he'd read Kal Rubinson's review of both units, and if so, why did Kal not mention this fact. His opinion was that while the Bryston way better than the Krell, the Krell does sound good and the arthor was being polite. He told me, if you can afford it, get the Bryston SP3. I could not tell him I already owned it, and I was simply fishing.
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I also asked him if he'd read Kal Rubinson's review of both units, and if so, why did Kal not mention this fact. His opinion was that while the Bryston way better than the Krell, the Krell does sound good and the arthor was being polite.
1. What fact?
2. How the hell would he know?

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I would hope the Bryston sounds better. It should unless all your paying for is that 20 year warranty.
There was a reviewer that rated the Krell and the Bryston neck and neck. He was German I believe.

I would love to hear the Bryston but I think that may never happen.



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Tom, whats going on with those high end cables? Any more sonic and video improvements noted?
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Below is another stellar review of the SP3.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/proce...or-review.html
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Below is another stellar review of the SP3.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/proce...or-review.html
Great review. Its interesting that this is the 6th or 7th "professional" review that does not test the SP3 sound using a phono stage. Since I became aware that the SP3 has issues with phono last fall I have had many private emails from others with phono experiencing the issue. Yet the reviewers don't actually listen to the SP3 with a vinyl front end which is surprising since I would think if this is an "audiophile" grade pre amp many more owners would be incorporating a phono front end.
Maybe that just means I am old
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Great review. Its interesting that this is the 6th or 7th "professional" review that does not test the SP3 sound using a phono stage. Since I became aware that the SP3 has issues with phono last fall I have had many private emails from others with phono experiencing the issue. Yet the reviewers don't actually listen to the SP3 with a vinyl front end which is surprising since I would think if this is an "audiophile" grade pre amp many more owners would be incorporating a phono front end.
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I think you have made an excellent point. I would think that someone who claims to be reviewing this for audiophiles would test a phono source. Given that Bryston claims to have fixed the issue I wouldn't think that would be the reason why it hasn't been tested.

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I think you have made an excellent point. I would think that someone who claims to be reviewing this for audiophiles would test a phono source. Given that Bryston claims to have fixed the issue I wouldn't think that would be the reason why it hasn't been tested.
Who told you it was fixed? Bryston told me they would only apply the fix to units in the field on an as needed basis. They said they would not incorporate the fix into new production units.
Did you get yours fixed yet?
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Who told you it was fixed? Bryston told me they would only apply the fix to units in the field on an as needed basis. They said they would not incorporate the fix into new production units.
Did you get yours fixed yet?
When I spoke to them they told me that they had a fix. I assumed they tested it. I have not had mine fixed because I don't want to be without it for multi-channel and I don't know when I would ever use my SP3 for 2 channel audio. I use a separate 2 channel preamp for analog. I was thinking of having it fixed when I go on vacation this summer.

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Great review. Its interesting that this is the 6th or 7th "professional" review that does not test the SP3 sound using a phono stage. Since I became aware that the SP3 has issues with phono last fall I have had many private emails from others with phono experiencing the issue. Yet the reviewers don't actually listen to the SP3 with a vinyl front end which is surprising since I would think if this is an "audiophile" grade pre amp many more owners would be incorporating a phono front end.
Maybe that just means I am old
I agree with you. Not that you are getting old, but rather, its strange no one tested the SP3 using its analog imput for a phono pre-amp. I also notice the reviewer used the Oppo BDP-105 for testing, but I do not recall reading his comparison of the analog outs of the Oppo vs. the D/A converter of the SP3. In any event, as good as the review was for the unit, nothing, so far, exceed the review done by Kal Rubinson in my humble opinion.
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Tom, whats going on with those high end cables? Any more sonic and video improvements noted?

Sorry for replying so late Gbaby.I been busy lately and have not been on the computer much.This is how the story goes.I sent them back to him I couldn't tell a difference after all it was placebo effect. I had alot on my mind when I went to UPS and didn't think about getting shipping insurance on the hdmi cables since there is nothing breakable and the girl never mentioned it to me like they always do when I ship something.Walter claims he wasn't home when UPS delivered them back to him and claims they were stolen off of his front porch so I don't know if he is telling the truth or he scammed me out of $2,000,00 I am pissed about the whole situation.
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Sorry for replying so late Gbaby.I been busy lately and have not been on the computer much.This is how the story goes.I sent them back to him I couldn't tell a difference after all it was placebo effect. I had alot on my mind when I went to UPS and didn't think about getting shipping insurance on the hdmi cables since there is nothing breakable and the girl never mentioned it to me like they always do when I ship something.Walter claims he wasn't home when UPS delivered them back to him and claims they were stolen off of his front porch so I don't know if he is telling the truth or he scammed me out of $2,000,00 I am pissed about the whole situation.
Wow this sucks. I hope this all ends up better for you. I have always wondered why this stealing off the porch thing doesn't happen more often. But I have never had it happen.
But my son had a scammer try to take him for a ride on a projector he sold. The guy said he never got it. My son had his signature showing that he himself signed for it. But paypal still sided with the buyer. Because my son obtained the proof through not normal means. He wouldn't have had access to the proof if his mother in law were not the main clerk at the post office he shipped it from.
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Wow this sucks. I hope this all ends up better for you. I have always wondered why this stealing off the porch thing doesn't happen more often. But I have never had it happen.
But my son had a scammer try to take him for a ride on a projector he sold. The guy said he never got it. My son had his signature showing that he himself signed for it. But paypal still sided with the buyer. Because my son obtained the proof through not normal means. He wouldn't have had access to the proof if his mother in law were not the main clerk at the post office he shipped it from.
I was hoping it would work out for the better also but it doesn't look like it is I just keep trying to think I lost it on a hand of Blackjack in Vegas because there is nothing I can do about it.It is just tererible the theifs and dishonest people in this world we live in they need to get a real job and see what it's like to work for a living.
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Sorry for replying so late Gbaby.I been busy lately and have not been on the computer much.This is how the story goes.I sent them back to him I couldn't tell a difference after all it was placebo effect. I had alot on my mind when I went to UPS and didn't think about getting shipping insurance on the hdmi cables since there is nothing breakable and the girl never mentioned it to me like they always do when I ship something.Walter claims he wasn't home when UPS delivered them back to him and claims they were stolen off of his front porch so I don't know if he is telling the truth or he scammed me out of $2,000,00 I am pissed about the whole situation.
I am willing to bet when you initially got them since you reported you were blown away he probably spent the funds immediately not expecting you to change your mind. Can you somehow change feedback already left?

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I am willing to bet when you initially got them since you reported you were blown away he probably spent the funds immediately not expecting you to change your mind. Can you somehow change feedback already left?
Hi Joe, I wish I would have listened to you in the first place.I never left any feedback about Walters hdmi cables Just on the SP3 site we discussed them and everybody was right it is placebo effect I had to find out the hard way.
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I won't take up the SP3 thread with ideas of what to do next. Hang in there I am sure there is a solution.

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