Originally Posted by ss9001
I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I have listened to the Tritons, excellent speaker. And who can't but respect Mr. Gross' contributions to the speaker industry. His business acumen & millions vs an audio enthusiast like me. No contest.
But..always a but
IMO, when a company publishes specs, the product ought to at least come close to meeting them. Other than more recent reviews in Home Theater Mag & the Sound & VIsion one Stu linked to, all the glowing reviews I ever found for the Supercubes NEVER posted test measurements, and DefTech NEVER published - 3 dB or even -6 db limits on freq response. Never.
That 13 Hz for the Supercube I is probably -20 or 30 db because I have a CD with test tones all the way down to 16 Hz, and < about 27 Hz, I heard or felt NOTHING with my ears & hand right next to my Supercube I. That is definitely NOT the case with the Velodyne. You can easily hear & feel lots of output all the way down to its rated low end, ~15 Hz IIRC. The 2 are not anywhere close in price but that's not the point - if DefTech published 28 Hz, I'd have no beef. But they chose to significantly inflate their published specs, so the buyer thinks he's getting something he's not & that's what I object to - false advertising. And their "out" is they don't publish the - dB number so even if it's -80 dB down they technically haven't "lied"
That's why I will never buy another DefTech product again. As much as I can say the GE Tritons sounded very nice, I wouldn't buy one of their subs. But that's me.
While the Golden Ear Tritons are highly acclaimed, On the Forcefield, this is the same type of reviews you'd read for the Supercubes:
a lot of glowing remarks, regurgitating the spec'd low end performance but no tests, no proof how well it meets those specs. Dedicated, respected subwoofer companies like Velodyne, SVS, etc. submit their subs for rigorous testing by review sites, including not just freq response but also tot harmonic distortion and how well they meet the published distortion specs. You won't find specs for distortion numbers either on a DefTech web site or manual. But Velodyne publishes them & mostly meets them with their servo models. Same for SVS.
There's a real world thread on HiDefJunkies forum about someone's experience with the FF. I wish I could link to it but AVS Forum doesn't allow links to other forums. I tried
In this thread, a guy buys the Tritons & FF4 sub from a GE dealer but after using the sub, decides its rather weak for his room and wasn't happy with it. His dealer allowed the owner to return the FF sub and got him into a REL sub. REL is a very highly respected sub company for "musical" subs. They are decidedly not cheap but are another example of the real deal.
All this is to say....many speaker companies are not the best choices for the highest performing subs. It doesn't matter if its Golden Ear, DefTech, Paradigm, Klipsch, or (name the brand). If you want top performance, you are usually better off buying a sub from a company that's known for subs.