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post #1 of 17 Old 08-05-2012, 01:26 AM - Thread Starter
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I need some advice on which receiver to purchase. My Onkyo TX-SR806 receiver just died, and I'd like to go with a brand known for quality and craftsmanship. I've settled on either a Denon "In Command" receiver or a Yamaha "Adventage" receiver. These seem to be the step-up models in terms of higher quality components and engineering. My speakers are the Energy Take Classic 5.1 set with an additional speaker added to make it a 6.1 setup. I use my system for music, games, and movies/TV. I'm debating on these two receivers, both of which are running $650 on amazon right now.

Yamaha RX-A720 7.2-Channel Network AVENTAGE AV Receiver
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0087KGLEO/

Denon AVR-2113CI Networking Home Theater Receiver with AirPlay and Powered Zone 2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00829USIU/

Here's a few of my thoughts:
  • I want a receiver that will last in terms of quality. I don't want one that will fail 1 year after the warranty expires like my Onkyo did.
  • My home theater setup is kind of strange (TV is in the corner of the room), so I'd like a system that will optimally calibrate my speakers to correct for this. Not sure which would be more efffective-- YPAO (RSC) or Audyssey MultiEq XT.
  • I don't use apple products very much, so airplay is not an issue for me.

Any advice or help would be much appreciated!
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To save some money, you may even want to consider last year's 2112CI as well. Review the first few posts in each of the XX12 and XX13 owner's threads linked in my sig to compare models. The Denon w/Audyssey will be able to EQ the sub while YPAO cannot. Also note the lower level Denon AVRs would work well with those speakers. You would be better served with a lower level Denon (eg. 1612) and putting the savings into upgrading from the entry level Energy speakers. General rule of thumb is to spend at least 2x-3x the cost of the AVR on your speaker setup.

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Thanks for the reply! I do plan on upgrading my speakers eventually, but I'd like to have a receiver that will last some time that will be able to handle nicer speakers once I get them. I like the idea that both of the options I listed have 4k upscaling, which I hope will make them a bit more future ready.
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With the 4k requirement, the 2113CI would likely serve you well.

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One problem with the Denon xx12s is clipping of the video signal (luma resolution). Hopefully, the 2113 will not have this problem (HT Mag just confirmed the 1613 passed the signal cleanly).

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Why do you think the Denon has the advantage over the Yamaha?
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I think the YAPO with RSC will EQ the sub too, can anybody confirm?
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Just a quick update... Although I didn't get a ton of feedback, I've decided to get a Yamaha. After going to the store and looking at them, I felt that the Yamaha had better build quality, and better aesthetics. The sound was comparable to the Denon, but I like that the Yamaha gives me the option of having two subs. Thanks to those of you who responded!
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In my opinion, Yamaha receivers are very good... except for YPAO being lesser than MultEQ XT. And that alone is enough to completely disqualify them in my mind, so I voted for the Denon. I use a Denon AVR-988 (2808 equivalent) myself, and I have been very happy with it.

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Just installed a A720 last night to replace a Marantz SR-7400 which was a GREAT receiver years ago. All I can say Is WOW! This thing sounds amazing! I am waiting till Monday to do the calibration with the mic until my 5 new HDMI cables come in! Even setting it up by ear, it is a HUGE upgrade from the Marantz!!!! I will fill you in once I do the rest of the auto setup.
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I'm guessing the OP is really more interested in comparing Audyssey (Denon) to YPAO (Yamaha). AFAIK, your old Marantz didn't use Audyssey.

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Yamaha app easily lets you stream content from Droid phones/Tablets, not just Airplay. I don't recall Denon app allowing you to do that, maybe their revamped app will. Yamaha dropped Pandora but says they are bringing it back in a firmware update.
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In my opinion, Yamaha receivers are very good... except for YPAO being lesser than MultEQ XT. And that alone is enough to completely disqualify them in my mind, so I voted for the Denon. I use a Denon AVR-988 (2808 equivalent) myself, and I have been very happy with it.

why when you can manually tweak and calibrate after running it thru audyssey/ypao?
its not like you calibrate it all the time. it's set it and forget it.
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I joined so I could post in this thread. These are the two receivers I am trying to choose between. Can I get more feedback from 720 owners? jdsmoothie's thread seems pretty comprehensive.. just looking for more opinions.
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I joined so I could post in this thread. These are the two receivers I am trying to choose between. Can I get more feedback from 720 owners? jdsmoothie's thread seems pretty comprehensive.. just looking for more opinions.
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Yamaha app easily lets you stream content from Droid phones/Tablets, not just Airplay. I don't recall Denon app allowing you to do that, maybe their revamped app will. Yamaha dropped Pandora but says they are bringing it back in a firmware update.

Denon XX13 models can use both an iDevice and android Remote app.

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Just installed a A720 last night to replace a Marantz SR-7400 which was a GREAT receiver years ago. All I can say Is WOW! This thing sounds amazing! I am waiting till Monday to do the calibration with the mic until my 5 new HDMI cables come in! Even setting it up by ear, it is a HUGE upgrade from the Marantz!!!! I will fill you in once I do the rest of the auto setup.

What do the 5 HDMI cables have to do with calibrating your speakers?

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