This will be the model name for the new,new,new really going to happen
Outlaw pre-pro.All kidding aside anybody have and specifics on this?
Outlaw pre-pro.All kidding aside anybody have and specifics on this?
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Originally Posted by rlwainwright /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24013773
Another thing that has not been talked about enough is the sound quality of the units. I find that the mid-line receivers from the major players (Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, etc.) are all about bells and whistles and not ultimate sound quality. IMHO, the Emotiva UMC preprocessors (UMC-1 and UMC-200) have decidedly better sound quality than what is found in competing receivers.-
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Originally Posted by rlwainwright /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24013773
Another thing that has not been talked about enough is the sound quality of the units. I find that the mid-line receivers from the major players (Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, etc.) are all about bells and whistles and not ultimate sound quality. IMHO, the Emotiva UMC preprocessors (UMC-1 and UMC-200) have decidedly better sound quality than what is found in competing receivers.
So pick your poison, sound quality or features. Me? I opt for sound quality...
-RW-
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Originally Posted by rlwainwright /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24013773
Another thing that has not been talked about enough is the sound quality of the units. I find that the mid-line receivers from the major players (Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, etc.) are all about bells and whistles and not ultimate sound quality. IMHO, the Emotiva UMC preprocessors (UMC-1 and UMC-200) have decidedly better sound quality than what is found in competing receivers.
-RW-
The decoding is based on standard Cirrus DSPs, so it is essentially the same as in other units. The DACs and volume controls sound very good, so I think it would be worth giving it a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeBon /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24149517
I am planning to use a QSC DSP922 equalizer on all channels, so I really don't need Audyssey. What I really need is an excellent audio decoder and an HDMI switcher. While I wish the 975 had more HDMI inputs, it appears to me that otherwise it fits my needs perfectly -- assuming that the audio quality and decoding is top notch. Thoughts, anyone?
yes it doesQuote:
Originally Posted by gadgtfreek /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24094250
I picked up a 7125 and am considering the 975, especially with their Holiday sale. I can handle all the audio calibration part/measurements, but need one thing answered. I have a 3.1 system, and I cannot tell by the manual if I can choose the 5.1 setup, set the left and right rears to "none", and it will downmix 5.1 and 7.1 into 3.1.
I'll just have a Oppo 103D running HDMI audio and video in the 975, then analogs out to the amp and hdmi out to the plasma.
Thanks.
That is actually the sample rate. Anyway, your Oppo will tell you what it is outputting if you touch the "Display" button. The 975 does not report sample rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by cc999 /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24346643
1 - On the UMC unit it would display what bit rate the audio feed was playing in. This is important as certain DVD-A have 48/96 or even 192 capabilities. How do I get a display of the bit rate to make sure I am getting the highest available?
It does not matter if you set it to SACD, as the HDMI handshake will determine that the 975 only wants PCM, so the Oppo will only deliver PCM. But I set mine to PCM anyway.Quote:
2 - I have an Oppo 103 - What do you set the Audio section at?
PCM LCPM ? What about the SACD setting?
When you are using a surround mode, the 975 display is reporting the surround mode. When no surround mode is selected, it displays the format of the source. So if you have PLII enabled for stereo sources, and the input signal changes from stereo to 5.1, the display will read 5.1 all the time.Quote:
3 - On the UMC I noticed while watching TV the audio will switch depending on what channel I was watching. Some programs were DD surround, some were 2 channel stereo etc.... I noticed on the Outlaw no matter what channel the display ALWAYS decodes as DD 3f/2b (I have 5.1 system) Why is that?
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Originally Posted by cc999 /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24349745
He should also fess up to the bad capacitors and power packs in the earlier UMC-200 units. Goto their forums
tons of people complaining (including me) . They refuse to recognize it publicly but when you call for
an RMA they know immediately what the problem is.
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Originally Posted by sumik /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24476546
Well it seems that there might be something in the works for it's successor.
Outlaw Naancy said the following, hope she could give some more info, when and what would be the most important.
"OK. We are currently working a few new products, one of them is a processor. Sorry, it is too early to give you more info regarding the timing. Stay Tuned!"
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Originally Posted by echo512 /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24672823
In short, no issues whatsoever with my UMC-200 (knock on wood). Annoyances, yes, but most all that is already flushed out in the main UMC-200 threads.
Anyhow, I am right now testing the crap out of the UMC-200 to see if there are any issues that would make me want to return before the 30 day period.
You are asking a question that demands a highly subjective reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by tidan /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24692541
I am considering replacing my Yamaha RX-Z1 with possibly the 975 or umc-200. I don't want to drop 3 grand again on a reciever or system that is obsolete in a couple years.
Would going to the 975/7125 combo be a very noticeable step down in sound quality from the Z1?
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Originally Posted by ch47d /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24707846
You are asking a question that demands a highly subjective reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by tidan /t/1423584/outlaw-975/420#post_24692541
I am considering replacing my Yamaha RX-Z1 with possibly the 975 or umc-200. I don't want to drop 3 grand again on a reciever or system that is obsolete in a couple years.
Would going to the 975/7125 combo be a very noticeable step down in sound quality from the Z1?
As far as the first statement is concerned, the amp section of a receiver doesn't ever become obsolete.
The processing and decoding section is what "expires".
So, it seems to make sense to separate the two, and spend as much as you can on the amplifier. But, not as much sense to spend a lot on the pre/pro.
Unfortunately, pre/pros have historically been more expensive than even the flagship AVRs.
So, that kinda made what should have made the most sense, not make any sense.
There is no denying that it's a lot easier to build a high quality, very powerful amplifier in it's own chassis.
And it's obviously best to keep all the heat that it produces away from the sensitive circuitry that does all the processing and decoding.
Whether it "sounds better" or not.
But, if it costs just as much, or more, to replace an obsolete pre/pro as it does to replace a comparable performing but also obsolete AVR, that's all moot.
My advice to you, is to order the 975, and use your receiver as a 5 channel amp through the analog inputs.
You have 30 days to decide whether it sounds better.
If it does, by all means order the 7125 amp. I am 100% positive that you'll love how that sounds; when compared to the amp section of any AVR.