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Hi All

My Onkyo NR906 seems to be on its last legs, so looking to replace it. Prior to Onkyo I've had a Pioneer Elite VSX-92THX. I thought I wanted Audyssey, but doesn't seem to be any better than Pioneer's MCCAC.

I'd like to spent $1,000-$1,200 (or less if possible). Would go to $1,500 for a significant benefit. I have Mirage Omnisat speakers (7.1). If I get somethng that supports .2, I may buy another sub. I'm interested in trying front height speakers too, so PLIIz would be nice.

I need at least 5 HDMI and would really like dual independant HDMI out (as I have 720p in bedroom and 1080P in HT, so matrix switch isn;t going to work for me unless I get one with a scaler or live with 720p in HT when bedroom TV is on). this is probably the feature that would me make me stretch my budget to $1500.

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Windows Media Center (TV)
AppleTV purchased TV and movies
Vudu (HDX Movies)
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Sonos

Would like to add 2nd AppleTV (if I can get dual independant HDMI) I review a lot of products too, so a spare HDMI port would be handy

I'm not an audiophile, but do appreciate decent quality. I do rip all my CD's as lossless and stream everythign via my Sonos. Most of my listening is contemporary music, with some older classics like Pink Floyd and Alan Parsons

iOS app would be nice too

Would really like RS232 to integrate with my URC stuff.

I'm thinking Pioneer, Onkyo or Denon

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The new Denon AVR-3313CI and Marantz SR7007 both offer Zone 2 (HDMI) and Audyssey MultEQ XT; however, both are only 7.2. The new Denon AVR-4520 (Sep) is 9.2 with Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and Zone 4 (HDMI) but will be about $1000 above your max budget.

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You are not going to find what you want in your price range. Even the Onkyo 3010 (lowest level 9.2) is around $2k.
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If the OP is willing to look at at factory referb I would suggest something along the line as this....
Dennon 4311 for $1,200
www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR4311CI/DENON-AVR-4311CI-9.2-Channel-Network-Home-Theater-Receiver/1.html
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The OP's looking for a 2nd independent HDMI out which the 4311CI does not feature, although it's replacement, 4520CI (MSRP $2499) will.

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Thanks for replies guys. Any idea on release date for new models? Figuring the 4311 will drop in price when new one comes out.

Sounds like I'll have to forego the independent hdmi out. Can get a cheap minoprice 4x2 for now and save up for gefen or other better model to add later

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The Pioneer Elite SC-67 can also be a option, that unit has independent HDMI output capabilities smile.gif

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Thanks a lot guys.

Decided the XT32 and 9.2 was most important. just ordered 4311CI for $1335 shipped. Bought on Amex, so have 30 days price match guarantee. If prices plummet due to new release at CEDIA, can claim back from Amex
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Did you listen to one or more different receivers before making a decision ?
That would be for me something very important smile.gif
And especially with the same speakers you own or even trying at home, to be sure everything is according to your own taste, and if the room correction differences between MCACC, ARC, YPAO and Audyssey(in their respective forms) would work in your particular room.

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Thanks a lot guys.
Decided the XT32 and 9.2 was most important. just ordered 4311CI for $1335 shipped. Bought on Amex, so have 30 days price match guarantee. If prices plummet due to new release at CEDIA, can claim back from Amex

The other bonus using your Amex is that you'll get an extra year added to the 3 year warranty making it a 4 year warranty. smile.gif

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You will not be upset with your selection. Denon makes good gear.
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I gave up on that some time ago. About 3 years ago, when i bought my Mirage speakers, i went to a real Hifi store to listen to them. I ended listening to a 5.1 soundtrack with no picture on TV 'cos they couldn't get it working. Found out Magnolia sold them. Went there, told me sub-woofer's not working, but you can listen to them with brand X. So I bought from Vann's saved myself on purchase price and sales tax. worst case, return shipping would have been $100. Additionally, my room sounds nothing like their purpose-built demo room. Most online reatailers have realistic return policies. I know there are soem specilaist stores who will allow in home trials, but most of the gear they sell is out my price range. The one good thing about internet retailers is that allows me to buy stuff that i otherwise wouldn;t be able to afford. Sometimes there are surprises, but I do a lot of research and have been lucky so far

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The other bonus using your Amex is that you'll get an extra year added to the 3 year warranty making it a 4 year warranty. smile.gif

Wasn't aware of that. i knew they extended warranties, but thought it was only up to 2years.
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Thanks for replies guys. Any idea on release date for new models? Figuring the 4311 will drop in price when new one comes out.
Sounds like I'll have to forego the independent hdmi out. Can get a cheap minoprice 4x2 for now and save up for gefen or other better model to add later
Thanks again
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Keep in mind that an external 4x2 HDMI switch will not only have the same limitation as using the on board dual HDMI outputs on the 4311CI ... ie. if both 1080p and 720p TVs are on, then the signal to both TVs will be limited to 720p, but will also add another limitation .... if the bedroom TV can only accept stereo audio it will limit the other sources going to the AVR to stereo as well.

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Wasn't aware of that. i knew they extended warranties, but thought it was only up to 2years.

It's actually only up to 1 year; however, Denon's warrany on the "CI" models is 3 years. Amex adds 1 year to that making it a total of 4 years.

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Keep in mind that an external 4x2 HDMI switch will not only have the same limitation as using the on board dual HDMI outputs on the 4311CI ... ie. if both 1080p and 720p TVs are on, then the signal to both TVs will be limited to 720p, but will also add another limitation .... if the bedroom TV can only accept stereo audio it will limit the other sources going to the AVR to stereo as well. .

If it's a matrix, won't in only drop the res if both were displaying same source (if that's even possible). Regarding the audio, was just looking into that. Seen a few HDMI audio and extractors (not sure if they would do it). But again, I think this would only be a problem if I view same source at same time on both: won't it?

As well as replacing my receiver, I'm probably installing second sub and maybe height or wide speakers and replacing my harmonies with URC and master controller. So I think I may leave the matrix stuff for a few weeks :-)
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Yes, the same source at same time (just saying, something to keep in mind).

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