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Why no love for the Onkyo TX-NR1010? Everyone seems to be talking about the 818 or the 3010/5010. As someone who only has a 5.2 setup, I like the idea of a really nice 7ch receiver instead of a 9ch. Any thoughts???

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Sadly the 1010 seems to be the odd man out. It's higher pricing than the 1009 of last year really puts it in a compromising position. I have a feeling it won't sell to well. It does have most of the excellent features as the others just less channels. Of course like the 818 with an external Amp you can still do 9. An at this level you jump into SubEQ as well. Those with more than one sub might be smarter to grab the 1010.

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So the 1010 does have SubEQ! If that's true, then this just became the perfect receiver for me! Now all I need is the price to drop.biggrin.gif

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The 1010 on paper is pretty good. But yeah, the price puts it in a compromising position. When it comes down closer to $1000 it should be a no brainer over the 818, unless you plan on running external amps, which would make the 818 more enticing.

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If it doesn't do well I could see them dropping it from next year's line up.

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I have one brand new 1010 if anyone wants one. smile.gif

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The one benefit of the 1010 over the 818 that I need is the independent zone 2 HDMI output for the tv on my deck. I hate to pay this big of a premium for that one feature but I guess I'll have to if I want it. The 1010 is the least expensive Onkyo with 2 independent HDMI outs. I would think some others may step up to the 1010 for this as well...
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Can anyone confirm that the 1010 has SubEQ HT? The Onkyo website doesn't specify for any model and the Audyssey website doesn't list any new models.

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Can anyone confirm that the 1010 has SubEQ HT? The Onkyo website doesn't specify for any model and the Audyssey website doesn't list any new models.

Go ask audyssey. There is a special section and they are usually pretty pretty prompt about answering.

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Thank you I couldn't find out anywhere!

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I just ordered a 1010 to replace my 809. I think the 1010 is a tremendous value, The 1010 is much closer to the 3010 in the 2013 lineup compared to last years 1009 which was closer to the 809. The 1010's benefits over over the 818 are subtle but impressive, better amps and a much larger power supply for example, also Sub EQ HT and better upscaling chip, seven DACS (7 x PCM1789) in the 1010 vs 1 in the 818 (PCM1690). The only thing the 1010 can be faulted for, and it's not really a fault, is that it's only a 7.2 receiver (9.2 preouts) same as the 818, but falls short of 3010's 11.4 capability. For my 7.1 system the 1010 fit the bill perfect:)

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Good to hear flyingshane! I really like this receiver for my setup as well. I don't even have 7 channels but do have 2 subs so SubEQ is important to me. Hopefully this will not be a popular model and will have some deep discounts!biggrin.gif
What speakers do you have with it?

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I have Pinnacle Gold Aerogel Mains, Pinnacle Gold Monitor for a center, (4) Emotiva ERD-1 bi/dipoles for surrounds and a SVS 20-39 for sub duty. I'm using a Adcom GFA-7500 for the FR/FL/C/SR/SL and the 809 does the SBR/SBL. I'm going to try just the 1010 running everthing when it shows up and see how it compares my amp, I have a 14x24x8 dedicated room and I'm excited to see how the XT32 compares as well.

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So, I just picked up an NR1010 to replace a 9 year old NAD 762 (that died).
I was very happy at first, it sounded great on first listen and did a fine job of driving
my speakers. I have a very minimal 2-zone system with 5.1 in the main room and
standard stereo in a second room. So I started hooking up zone two and that's when
the trouble started. Even my 10 year old NAD managed two zones better than this
thing. First off, the documentation is terrible. Rather than laying out the "rules" that
explain what the receiver can and can't do, page 86 of the manual is a list of specific
cases... "If Zone 2 and the main room share the same input source, only an
analog input signal is output." These notes also lack enough information to be worth
much. For example, in the above, "an analog input signal is output" to what? Pre-out,
internal amp? what?

So, the main nasty thing I've noticed is that even if you connect analog R/L for all
sources, the receiver can't use them in lieu of the digital source for the zone outputs.
The 10 year old NAD could manage to do this, so you always had something on the
zone for audio. The NAD could also manage a multi-channel mix-down for the
zone instead of reverting the main room to "stereo." Ok, that last one really blew
me away. If I'm watching True-HD in the main room and I turn on zone 2 and select
that source the main zone reverts to stereo... even if an analog stereo signal is
connected and available for the zone to use. The documentation is also incomplete.
"While Zone 2/3 is on, functions will not work." What functions will not work?
It is left blank... :-) ???

The other thing... why on earth are the zone 2 3 pre-outs only fixed volume?

I played around with the zone 2 HDMI, which is indeed nifty (and was the main
reason I bought this unit). So I will give them points for that.

There is a small blurb in the documentation that leads me to think that zone 3 uses
only analog sources. It may do what I want for a music only zone, however, I only
have an amp. to attach so I can't really test.

Maybe some of this can be addressed in a software update?
I hope someone can comment who knows what the real physical limits of the
device really are.
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Just hooked up a 1010 this last weekend. Picked up this unit to use primarily as a pre-pro... for it's XT-32 EQ. Sounds good but have noted one problem. My previous Onkyo pre-pro (PR-SC5507) would allow me to use a combination of surround processing strategies in order to take advantage of all 9 channels simultaniously. It does not appear as if this unit will allow the same flexibility. I am forced to choose 7 mad.gif. Have not read the manual in detail. I hope that I am missing something.

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Actually, I wasn't impressed with the XT32 eq., It seemed to make no significant difference in my 5.1 setup and for some reason
insisted I didn't have a sub. when I have one that shakes the house. The sub. issue was weird because it would let me adjust the
volume to reach 75 DB as step one, but then later in the process it decides it isn't there. To answer your question, I'm pretty sure
that it goes through all 9 channels when is does it's calibration, so if you have an Amp for the 8 & 9, I think it does equalize them.
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It seems like no one else on the planet has this thing or reads this thread.
I had a really weird problem yesterday with the 1010. I thought I was going to have to
return it at first. The unit was refusing to output a video signal. I turned it on to watch
TiVo and nothing... no sound no video. I turned on the dvd and also nothing.
I pulled the HDMI cable from the monitor (TV) and put it back in and audio started
to be heard for the TiVo source. Still no video. I turned it off and on a few times,
tried different sources (audio only ones...) etc. and the audio appeared to be
working. Then, finally, un-explainably the video started to work again. It's still
working today, so I assume it actually was a software failure. I am using zone 2
as well, which was turned on and off (but is audio only) as I was trouble shooting.
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If anyone has a VP can you please test the main HDMI out and see if the signal is being altered. Test for 23.976fps and 59.94 being altered to 24 and 60, thanks in advance.

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Sorry, I don't have a VP or I would try it. Do you have one of these units and have you ever seen it refuse to sync the video signal
as I described? I thought the unit had failed and was getting ready to take it back to the retailer...
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Hey,

I am considering this receiver for a pair of ProAc Studio 140 mk2, which in themselves are a bit bright/forward sounding.

Does anyone here know anything about the combination ProAc + Onkyo? And to the ones owning the 1010, would you describe the sound as more bright/forward/harsh or leaning towards smooth/laid back/warm?

Another option is the Marantz 7007.

I think cant audition the combination with the ProAcs where I live so I am curious to hear what you guys think.
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I don't think I can really hear differences between Amps but I would be inclined to label it bright or forward. I think I've noticed a little more coarseness on high frequency transients than I remember on the NAD unit it replaced.
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Well, I have this receiver Onkyo TX-NR1010 on my short list for a new theater room. I see a bit of frustration in this post and it causes me concern. However, I noticed you haven't slammed it since so are things still moving along well with the 1010?

It has more bells and whistles than the Anthem MRX500 I asked for, but my consultant insists this will give me more than I need and more than the Anthem. I was leaning towards Anthem because of it's reputation and the fact that it is NA company.
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Here is the site to look up what receivers have Audyssey in them, and what types of Audyssey. It is not always accurate for the newest receivers when they first come out, but the 1010 has been out long enough to trust the site. This link is specifically for Onkyo and Sub EQ HT.

http://www.audyssey.com/products?tid%5B%5D=100&pid=56&ptype=5&=Search+Products
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I can't believe it's March and we still haven't seen discounts on this! Might be one of the most unpopular receiver models in history! When does Onkyo come out with the next year models?

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I just hooked up my new TX-NR1010 and I love It so far. I really love the XT32 tuning for my two subs. Everything works and sounds perfectly. So I'm a very happy camper! ^_^

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Great to hear! What speakers? What previous receiver?

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Great to hear! What speakers? What previous receiver?

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Precious receiver was the Pioneer VSX-1120-k.

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The one benefit of the 1010 over the 818 that I need is the independent zone 2 HDMI output for the tv on my deck. I hate to pay this big of a premium for that one feature but I guess I'll have to if I want it. The 1010 is the least expensive Onkyo with 2 independent HDMI outs. I would think some others may step up to the 1010 for this as well...

well, you are completely wrong here. First of all, the 818 is THX Select and the 1010 is THX Ultra certified. Second, the 1010 has more power output. Third, the 1010 has Aud. subEQ. Fourth, the 1010 has a Vector Linear Shaping Circuitry in its power supply.

Do I need to go on........?
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