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Which one of these is packs the most bang for the buck?
Which one of them should i stay away from?
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I would probably take any of them except the Onkyo 717.

My first choice would probably be the Marantz SR6006.

Then the Yamaha 1010, Denon 3808CI, Yamaha 673 and then the Onkyo.

If the Denon 3808CI has already had the $100 feature upgrade then I'd move it ahead of the Yamaha 1010.
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Just curious, why would you put the Onkyo last?
I ask because I'm deciding between the 663 and 717 right now.
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In addition to a history of QC issues with the Onkyo AVRs, the 717 only uses the lowest version of Audyssey 2EQ (ie. no sub EQ) which was demoted from the much higher MultEQ XT offered on the 709 while the 3808 and 6006 both offer MultEQ XT.

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The 673 uses the same one, does it not?
673 and the 717 are my only real options as the other models are out of my price range.
Edit: Kept saying 663...meant 673
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The 663 uses Yamaha's proprietary EQ (YPAO) which actually won't EQ a sub either, so choose the model that best meets your feature/input/output requirements, although the 663 is likely to be more reliable.

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Understood, thanks for the help.
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So, based on your reliabilty remark. Should I assume Marantz over onkyo 818 if I stretched my budget?
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Well .. here's the rub ... the 818 offers the most advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32 with a noticable improvement in audio fidelity over XT (as reported by owners making the upgrade) so based on that the 818 would get the nod over only XT in the 6006, however, QC issues are always a concern with Onkyo products. If you go the 818 route, just ensure you purchase from one of the authorized resellers listed on Onkyo's website so the warranty is valid if you need to use it. wink.gif

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Been a huge help, thanks man.
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The 673 uses the same one, does it not?
673 and the 717 are my only real options as the other models are out of my price range.
Edit: Kept saying 663...meant 673

Then why did you ask about the other 3 receivers if they're out of your price range? confused.gif

I'd take Yamaha 673 over the Onkyo. Yamaha is a very reliable brand.

What features are you looking for in a receiver? What's your budget?

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He didn't .... notice he's not the OP. smile.gif

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Well, I'm really, REALLY stretching my budget right now with a couple of these.
If I don't want to piss of my wife, then I should probably get the 673....but I can't help looking at the onkyo 818 and the 6006 right now.
And no, I'm not the OP so sorry for hijacking his thread!
I was going to get the Yamaha until I read about the calibration for the 818 and 6006. Worried about that with the Yamaha.
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Hi Chuteboxe,

 

You know you can not compare the Yamaha 673 to the Onkyo 818 or the Marantz 6006. These two players are well above the 673. In fact a fair comparison would point to the Yamaha Aventage A-2010, but the price difference will certainly bring you problems with your wife redface.gif

 

I currently own a Yamaha 2010 and all I can tell you is that the propietary YPAO calibration system is no match for the Auddisey MultEq XT32 that is included in the Onkyo 818 or the XT inside the Maran tz 6006. The YPAO performs a parametric equalisation while the Auddisey uses a more sofisticated algorithm.

 

I made some comparisons between the A2010 YPAO and the Auddisey MultEq that was part of my old Onkyo 707 (a previous light version of the XT32) and this Auddisey still can do a better job than the YPAO. But I have to say the best YPAO iteration is only included in the Yamaha flagship receiver A-3010 and its new replacement A3020.

 

In my case the YPAO did a decent job and I have no worries, but you might be willing to have a more advanced toy.

 

Regarding Onkyo QC problems, it seems the X08 and X09 series reported few problems but it seems the new 717 and 818 series are on track again. I never had problems with my 707 and the previous 606, BTW.

 

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Ended getting the 818, which wasn't even considered at first. biggrin.gif
Wish me luck with the wife and thanks a bunch everyone!
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Congratulations Chuteboxe! smile.gif

 

I think you'll be happy with that receiver.

 

Of course I wish you luck. WAF is always a PITA for us who are fond of audio gear. tongue.gif

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I would probably take any of them except the Onkyo 717.
My first choice would probably be the Marantz SR6006.
Then the Yamaha 1010, Denon 3808CI, Yamaha 673 and then the Onkyo.
If the Denon 3808CI has already had the $100 feature upgrade then I'd move it ahead of the Yamaha 1010.
http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Feature_Upgrade_Instructions.pdf
Thanks afrogt...

I did some basic research and came up with these options. but couldnt weave out the major differences between them, i was originally leaning towards the onkyo but the QC issue put me off a bit
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Then why did you ask about the other 3 receivers if they're out of your price range? confused.gif
I'd take Yamaha 673 over the Onkyo. Yamaha is a very reliable brand.
What features are you looking for in a receiver? What's your budget?


I asked lol...
I have a swaying budget.. If its really worth it ill find the cash, but if not id rather spend it on something else..
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Ended getting the 818, which wasn't even considered at first. biggrin.gif
Wish me luck with the wife and thanks a bunch everyone!
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Hi Chuteboxe,

NIce.... Im considering that or the 6006

You know you can not compare the Yamaha 673 to the Onkyo 818 or the Marantz 6006. These two players are well above the 673. In fact a fair comparison would point to the Yamaha Aventage A-2010, but the price difference will certainly bring you problems with your wife redface.gif

I currently own a Yamaha 2010 and all I can tell you is that the propietary YPAO calibration system is no match for the Auddisey MultEq XT32 that is included in the Onkyo 818 or the XT inside the Maran tz 6006. The YPAO performs a parametric equalisation while the Auddisey uses a more sofisticated algorithm.

I made some comparisons between the A2010 YPAO and the Auddisey MultEq that was part of my old Onkyo 707 (a previous light version of the XT32) and this Auddisey still can do a better job than the YPAO. But I have to say the best YPAO iteration is only included in the Yamaha flagship receiver A-3010 and its new replacement A3020.

In my case the YPAO did a decent job and I have no worries, but you might be willing to have a more advanced toy.

Regarding Onkyo QC problems, it seems the X08 and X09 series reported few problems but it seems the new 717 and 818 series are on track again. I never had problems with my 707 and the previous 606, BTW.

Good luck!

Hey Jorge great Insight im new to av.. and need a great source of information... I cant stand going into retail stores looking for answers from sales reps.....
the marantz looks soooo pretty ...
but should i consider the a3020 in my lineup with the 6006 & 818?
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