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The 5508 is two years old. I thought we would see a new one at Cedia but the only thing I am aware of is the three receivers that came about two months ago.

Does anyone have any idea of when or whether Onkyo will follow with a 5508/09 successor?
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Onkyo had the 5509 in their booth at Cedia. I spoke with the Integra factory folks and they told me that there would be no replacement for the DHC-80.3 which is the twin of the 5509. They are going to be producing 2 lower-end pre/pros instead.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I wanted an updated Pre/Pro from onkyo. The new flag-ship NR5010 can act as a pre/pro though if you just connect RCA preouts to external power amps, per the instructions.
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Onkyo had the 5509 in their booth at Cedia. I spoke with the Integra factory folks and they told me that there would be no replacement for the DHC-80.3 which is the twin of the 5509. They are going to be producing 2 lower-end pre/pros instead.

What does lower-end really mean? Most pre-pros are overpriced IMO, specifically since most are simply the same as the Receiver counterpart with the amps removed... and charging the same price or more! What a rip.

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The 3010 and 5010 both work perfectly as pre-pros. Plus you can always have them do extra speakers since they are 11 channel capable.

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Hi guys, I hope to get one of the 5509's soon and I went out yesterday to hear the 80.3, this will replace my Anthem avm 20v2 and hope the analog section is on par for 2 channel, now the big question for me are there any critical parts to distinguish a difference in sound between the two reportedly sister processors? does the 80.3 have an edge over the 5509? and I just found this:)

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_580PRS5509/Onkyo-PR-SC5509.html?tp=48909
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Shouldn't be any sound difference. Actually using a 3009 as a pre-pro it was hard to detect any differences from the 80.3. Definitely not with the 5009/5010 either.

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What does lower-end really mean? Most pre-pros are overpriced IMO, specifically since most are simply the same as the Receiver counterpart with the amps removed... and charging the same price or more! What a rip.

It's probably not a "rip", because different packaging, some differences in the electronics, much lower sales volume, marketing takes its toll on the price, making it much pricier to produce (and sell).
Its a niche product, which is been carried by only a few dealers and mostly hard to get (special order) because there is no real "market" in terms of sales volume for this anymore.
Who is spending their hard earned money for a preamp/processor plus several power amps nowadays if you can get everything (almost) in an all-in-one page (higher end AVR).
There normally is only a very small group of users, who really need the power and the options of a component type multi-channel system.
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The processor preamp has a higher 2 V rated output with XLR. The 5010 preout is only 1 V. No XLR on the 5010.

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It's probably not a "rip", because different packaging, some differences in the electronics, much lower sales volume, marketing takes its toll on the price, making it much pricier to produce (and sell).
Its a niche product, which is been carried by only a few dealers and mostly hard to get (special order) because there is no real "market" in terms of sales volume for this anymore.
Who is spending their hard earned money for a preamp/processor plus several power amps nowadays if you can get everything (almost) in an all-in-one page (higher end AVR).
There normally is only a very small group of users, who really need the power and the options of a component type multi-channel system.

Unless they want true high end components...suck as Krell, McIntosh etc

Those brands dont seem to "do" receivers....and if they do its very limited at best


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