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So I received my Slinglink Turbo 4 port power line kit and went to hook it up but unfortunately I have a defective unit and now have to wait for the replacement to get here. In all honesty I probably should have just purchased an additional Airport Express to run a LAN cable to my AVR 1700.

That's exactly what I did and the Airport Express (older model) connected flawlessly to my WiFi and to the H/K. The Airplay is sweet.....
Here's a good place to pick up an Airport Express.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_accessories

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My first receiver I spent a lot of money on only to replace it quickly when the decoders and connectivity became obsolete. I've learned that speakers are worth spending a lot of money on but not receivers.

I picked up the 1700 for a mere $200 by giving up useless features i never used like 7.1 and multi room with absolutely zero compromise to sound quality and reliability.

I love the fact that hk has taken this approach. This receiver came at a perfect time for me. As of today the avr 1700 has no competition in its price range.
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I'm still confused about Hdmi Standby Pass Thru. Does this receiver have it or not? Thanks.
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I'm still confused about Hdmi Standby Pass Thru. Does this receiver have it or not? Thanks.

The receiver must be on to watch tv. If this is a deal breaker you can simply use an inexpensive hdmi splitter from your cable box to allow you to watch tv with the receiver off.
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Now that I have the receiver, I'm becoming a little impatient on speakers! Bad, I know. I've been waiting for the Jamo S426 5.0 setup to come back down on Amazon. In the meantime I've been looking at the Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers. If I buy them through Frys local, I can go back in and get them to price guarantee against TigerDirect and BestBuy.

Fronts: $99 each
Center: 69
Rear: 89.99

Thoughts?
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The receiver must be on to watch tv. If this is a deal breaker you can simply use an inexpensive hdmi splitter from your cable box to allow you to watch tv with the receiver off.

Thanks. It sucks that it's not an included feature.
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Now that I have the receiver, I'm becoming a little impatient on speakers! Bad, I know. I've been waiting for the Jamo S426 5.0 setup to come back down on Amazon. In the meantime I've been looking at the Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers. If I buy them through Frys local, I can go back in and get them to price guarantee against TigerDirect and BestBuy.

Fronts: $99 each
Center: 69
Rear: 89.99

Thoughts?
I have not heard the Jamo's, but they were what I was originally going to try until I stumbled upon all the rave reviews on the Pioneers. Looks like you can get them for a great price, I would grab them!
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I too wished for hdmi pass thru, but your tv should have audio out , I only use the receiver when I watch movies, and then I will use audio out of the tv, My last 2 TV s

have optical out its alright better than nothing ,

On another note A or B speaker switching would be nice I have outside speakers but, right now this is still in the box I have a

yamaha htc 6140 that will probably get a new home in the garage to power the outside speakers , I really need good FM reception
and seeing that the 1700 has internet radio and airplay, I will have to switch them out otherwise the yamaha is useless for radio

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Does anyone know if EZ set/EQ on this receiver eq's the sub? Also, does it have HDMI CEC?

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interesting that the bestbuy ad in this mornings paper still has the hk avr1700 for $199
available in stores only, sold out on line

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EZset EQ will set distance, crossover and channel levels but it wont actually EQ the subwoofer.

Dont' know about HDMI CEC but here is the manual if you want to check.
http://manuals.harman.com/HK/Owner%27s%20Manual/AVR1700_OM_EN.pdf

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Does anyone know if EZ set/EQ on this receiver eq's the sub? Also, does it have HDMI CEC?

there is a setup function that turns hdmi link on/off. not sure if this is how hk refers to hdmi cec. i've never used either one.

as far as hdmi pass thru with the receiver off, i can't see this could be a concern to anyone.
i've had receivers plugged into my tv since the early 80s, i can't imagine anyone listening to anything with tv speakers.
i don't have cable tv, i get 28 channels with a small antenna in my attic.
the rare times i watch broadcast tv i run it thru the receiver

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HDMI link is probably Harman's term for HDMI CEC.

I don't use it on any of my receivers either since I have a Harmony remote to control all functions.

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anyone know what the serial port on the back of the receiver is used for?

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anyone know what the serial port on the back of the receiver is used for?

Certain aftermarket control systems such as from Crestron, Control 4 and AMX connect via the serial port. However, HK needs to have worked with each so that the respectve software module was written and validated. You need to contact HK support and find out its status, HK AVRs have had that port for many generations..
Originally it was also used for software updates before they went to the USB port.

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EZset EQ will set distance, crossover and channel levels but it wont actually EQ the subwoofer.
/AVR1700_OM_EN.pdf

Ezset/eq does eq the sub.
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Ezset/eq does eq the sub.

Is this true? Any way to confirm this? If so, I may be giving this a second look. I know it's no Audyssey, but the price is far more reasonable.
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Hi all,

I picked up this receiver a few days ago and it will not output 1080p. I've tried connecting a Sony blu ray player and an Xbox 360. It will display 1080i and lower, but not 1080p. I've confirmed that all cables are good and my TV is a 2012 Samsung - definitely supports 1080p. After spending hours trying to troubleshoot, I returned it and exchanged it for another unit. Same exact problem. Does anyone have any insight into this? Is there something I'm missing?
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The original question was about the 1700 which is selling for $199...
The 3700 once released will be @ least 3x higher..
Certain users want a no frills AVR such as the 1700 capable of handling HDMI 1.4 and HD decoding, but it will be used as pre-amp/processor driving higher powered external power amplifiers..
I see. However using ext amps typically an expensive game so HK says cough up if you want that...
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An AVR with an SRP < $1099 is not a flagship... rolleyes.gif

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It's definitely the flagship as long as it's the most advanvced unit in their lineup, regardless of its price.
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Hi all,

I picked up this receiver a few days ago and it will not output 1080p. I've tried connecting a Sony blu ray player and an Xbox 360. It will display 1080i and lower, but not 1080p. I've confirmed that all cables are good and my TV is a 2012 Samsung - definitely supports 1080p. After spending hours trying to troubleshoot, I returned it and exchanged it for another unit. Same exact problem. Does anyone have any insight into this? Is there something I'm missing?

This receiver definitely will output 1080p. I'm not sure what could be going on with your setup.

TV: Toshiba 46L5200U (ISF calibrated)
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One week with the receiver and it has been fantastic so far with only one gripe so far. Airplay feature overrides the volume settings and tries to use the same volume as your PC/iPhone/iPad. This might take the volume at the dangerous level. For the standby passthrough feature (it was a requirement for me for casual TV watching), I have now connected the dishnetwork STB HDMI to the TV directly and connected the optical out to the receiver. Also set up two activities on the Logitech Harmony, one to watch TV without the receiver and surround effects and and one with the surround sound. I figured that when I would use blu-ray player and WDTV, I would use the receiver anyway for surrounds or music. Watched "Fast Five" today with all glory and sound effects. Its a good movie to test drive your surround sound setup. I still haven't done any equalizer setup or ezset setup or even any tone control setups. But Pandora, Spotify and SACD plays pretty crisp and clear.
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One week with the receiver and it has been fantastic so far with only one gripe so far. Airplay feature overrides the volume settings and tries to use the same volume as your PC/iPhone/iPad. This might take the volume at the dangerous level. For the standby passthrough feature (it was a requirement for me for casual TV watching), I have now connected the dishnetwork STB HDMI to the TV directly and connected the optical out to the receiver. Also set up two activities on the Logitech Harmony, one to watch TV without the receiver and surround effects and and one with the surround sound. I figured that when I would use blu-ray player and WDTV, I would use the receiver anyway for surrounds or music. Watched "Fast Five" today with all glory and sound effects. Its a good movie to test drive your surround sound setup. I still haven't done any equalizer setup or ezset setup or even any tone control setups. But Pandora, Spotify and SACD plays pretty crisp and clear.

This is the receiver that I'm debating upon due to the big markdown at Best Buy for $199, and with $75 in gift cards I could bring it down to $125. The big thing holding me back is the lack of Audyssey as I hear the Ezset setup isn't that appealing or useful. But that was just one person's opinion. Is it difficult to override the "HDMI Standby Passthrough"? I hear you just need to buy a splitter of some sort, but I have no idea how to set that up.

It's either this or the Denon 1613 for me. The Denon is on sale at Fry's for $288 so I have to decide soon. Ahh! What is your general thoughts or opinion of the receiver so far? I'm trying to get as much feedback about this receiver as possible before I make the plunge.
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Has anyone found a pro review on this receiver?
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Has anyone found a pro review on this receiver?

Search the thread. Someone posted one earlier.
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This is the receiver that I'm debating upon due to the big markdown at Best Buy for $199, and with $75 in gift cards I could bring it down to $125. The big thing holding me back is the lack of Audyssey as I hear the Ezset setup isn't that appealing or useful. But that was just one person's opinion. Is it difficult to override the "HDMI Standby Passthrough"? I hear you just need to buy a splitter of some sort, but I have no idea how to set that up.

It's either this or the Denon 1613 for me. The Denon is on sale at Fry's for $288 so I have to decide soon. Ahh! What is your general thoughts or opinion of the receiver so far? I'm trying to get as much feedback about this receiver as possible before I make the plunge.
You really need to listen to both the receiver or at least receivers from their family to see which one you like better. For me its my third receiver. I started my journey on surround sound with a low end onkyo and onkyo speaker set back in 2007. I thought that it was great for surround but I was not with the music sound quality. It sounded lifeless and harsh with more shrill. So i was getting the itch to upgrade. I sold the onkyo speaker set and the receiver in craigslist bought Harman Kardons 5.1 speaker set (HKTS 18 from J&R) and HK AVR 254 (from HK's ebay store as refurb) in 2009. Boy, it really rocked... with the power and sound quality. One of my friend who had onkyo.. after listening to my setup also upgraded his gear to harman Kardon. He was little bit unlucky though.. after 1.5 years of ownership his HDMI board failed. HK has 2 years of warranty even with refurb unit. They replaced his AVR 254 with AVR 2600 (AVR 254 was out of production). So he basically got the upgrade for free, so I was impressed with their support as well. My experience with Denon is limited. Another friend bought a brand new house with open concept in the family room (open to kitchen and living room). So it was a difficult room from acoustics point of view. On top of that all his satellite were in wall with hardwood floor. So it was really really difficult room to get good sound. he got this $600 Denon receiver with Audyssey (not sure which version though) with all latest features like HD Radio, networking and others (back in 2010 it was cutting edge). He did the audyssey setup. But with so much of reflection, you can probably do room correction upto certain extent only. And his speakers didn't have the punch as well both for music as well as movies. So I would not pass judgement on the Denon, but his setup didn't do justice to what he has spent. I told him to get two front towers to fill up the room. He hasn't bought them yet though. In the meantime I also bought a brand new house in 2011, I made sure that my family room is a perfect rectangle and carpet. No open concept for me and no in wall speaker for me. The sound was of course even better than my previous apartment, because it was more enclosed than before with speakers placed at proper places. New year 2013, I decided to throw a new year party in my basement, so I bought two infinity primus towers (P363) and looking for a new receiver so that I can move my current HK AVR 254 to the basement. I checked back AVSforum after long time, and saw that lot of new features have come in to the new crop of receivers. I wanted the HDMI standby passthrough feature, because I didn't want to run the receiver for casual TV watching. I thought of the splitter setup, but it leads to more complicated setup. I saw that HK no longer sells via ebay and the other HK AVR receivers were pricey for my budget 9with wife not too happy with purchase of towers and now another receiver on the way). So I got the yamaha RX-V373. It had all the features I wanted and was rated higher than my previous HK AVR 254. I connected it to my towers. It was wimpy and not inspiring at all for music. On top of that it didnt had OSD via HDMI overlay. I moved it to my family room to its intended place. It failed to deliver video output over a 50' 24AWG HDMI cable. The signal was I guess too low for my TV. HK AVR 254 never had problems delivering signal to the TV using the same cable. So I thought that all these new receivers with their wimpy power supply are at fault and I probably need a mid range receiver. Somebody told me that HDMI spec gurantees signal only upto 16ft. By this time 31st came in, I put the AVR 254 to work at my basement. I set it to two channel stereo mode to get the maximum out put from it.. and everybody appreciated the setup and had a good time this NYE. After that I returned the yamaha and noticed that BB is clearing on AVR 1700. I decided to take a risk (everybody was saying the power supply is much lighter than previous HK receivers - AVR 254 is about 28lb). I was impressed when I drove the tower in the basement with two channel mode in AVR 1700. It actually has more power than AVR 254. The OSD graphic was a downgrade though. This weekend I snaked one more HDMI cable from my TV to the AVR 1700 in the for HDMI standby passthrough solution. I already have logitech harmony, so it was breeze to redo the setup and add one more macro. Surprisingly the infrared commands for AVR254 and AVR1700 are same and my previous activities were working even without adding AVR1700.
IMO, harman Kardon has one of the best quality sounds in all receiver. If you appreciate music sound quality, its one of the best choice I have come across. From my experience even HTiB can output decent surrounds, but music is not a piece of cake and more challenging for lot of setup. You need to see in a showroom/friends place how much audyssey improved the audio experience. But if your room is acoustically good enough, you can blindly go with AVR1700 with such a good deal. It was good in my basement too..its about 800sq ft L shaped unfinished and not a walkout basement , whereas my family room is 200 sq ft rectangle. So basement was little bit of challenging, but the towers filled up the space pretty good and I don't have surround setup in basement, only stereo.
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a little late to the party, but I have a 5 year old Onkyo 605 right now and was thinking of switching to the HK 1700 due to it's blow out pricing at best buy... my question is... besides FEATURES (the 605 didn't even have audessey) is the 1700 an upgrade over the 605 or more of a lateral move. I've heard that the 1700 has a 90-95 all channels driven power rating and that they have a tendency of understating power requirements vs. Onkyo and other co's....

long story short is it an upgrade power/sound wise over my 605 Onkyo
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That HK 1700 receiver doesn't have 90-95 watts all channels driven. The harman website says 90-95 watts with TWO channels driven.

HK doesn't rate these new receiver with all channels driven anymore so it is probably comparable power to what you have now in your Onkyo.

If you want the HK it would be for more HDMI inputs,networking/streaming and Airplay.

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That HK 1700 receiver doesn't have 90-95 watts all channels driven. The harman website says 90-95 watts with TWO channels driven.

HK doesn't rate these new receiver with all channels driven anymore so it is probably comparable power to what you have now in your Onkyo.

If you want the HK it would be for more HDMI inputs,networking/streaming and Airplay.

ah gotccha, I was reading a review that said it was 100 watts 2 channel and 90-95 all channels driven... they must have gotten it wrong.
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I always have problems getting those wires into the back of those little holes back there, especially if you are working in a tight space. I'd highly recommend these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006U3O566/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

They are reusable so next time you upgrade receivers you'll have them.

Should I use spades for the speaker connections? I noticed that some of the speakers I've looked at have an angled connection. I'm not sure if the banana plugs I get will fit.

Any reason not to get these? http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Silverback-Banana-Plugs-Screw/dp/B005BT2KJE/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358188407&sr=1-3&keywords=sewell+banana+plugs
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a little late to the party, but I have a 5 year old Onkyo 605 right now and was thinking of switching to the HK 1700 due to it's blow out pricing at best buy... my question is... besides FEATURES (the 605 didn't even have audessey) is the 1700 an upgrade over the 605 or more of a lateral move. I've heard that the 1700 has a 90-95 all channels driven power rating and that they have a tendency of understating power requirements vs. Onkyo and other co's....

long story short is it an upgrade power/sound wise over my 605 Onkyo

IMO it will have as much power as the 605. I have used the 1700 to drive JBL HT4 speakers to very high SPL.

Only you can determine which sound is better. It does sound better (to me) than my Denon AVR 2308 that it replaced. Center channel dialog is more clear for starters.
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