Originally Posted by AustinJerry
Let me see if I understand you correctly, James. If all one cares about is playing Blu-ray disks, a $100 player will work as well as the Oppo.
But if one wants additional value, such as the ability to play SACD, DVD-A, and even DSD audio files, plus superior up-scaling (including 4K), better analog audio, superior network apps, better build quality, excellent resale value, and excellent customer support, one might consider the Oppo?
Sounds about right.
Well that's a catchy tune, but let's add some quick CONTEXT...as that always helps.
First you imply a suggestion that's patently false: no one suggested you're "just playing blu rays". Have you seen the app suites on 2013 players? Yeah, it didn't sound like you have. They are, by and large, outstanding. Your allusion to Oppo's superiority in this dept is, I'm sorry, laughable.
The ability to play DVD A and SACD's was noted. No point in repeating it. Very very few need such things...and if you do you STILL do not need to pay $500-$1000, but you are certainly welcome
to, Oppo will happily accept your money.
I have OWNED an Oppo BD player. And a Sony. And a Panasonic. The "superior" upscaling is by a whisker
...no doubt about it. And prolly closer still on the brand new players. Certainly something no one is going to see on a 50-60" screen at typical viewing distances. Projector? Could be worthwhile.
Analog audio? Sure. Audibly "better"? Yeah, ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night. What percentage is using analog outs on a BD player to begin with? Oh, never mind. But if you DO need them, definitely get an Oppo...at 3-7X the cost of a comparably-equipped unit, elsewhere, cause you'll hear the difference.
Better build quality? Again, a sweeping generalization, but sure. See above. I've yet to have a BD player fail...of ANY brand.
Again, "better" network apps? Than whom
? Another generalization.
Excellent resale? Why would you sell it in the first place? We all KNOW it's the best and well worth its FIVE and TEN X premiums.
But if that's what you're after, take a look at what $100 players re-sell for, used. Trust me, you won't be flushing a ton of cash if you're somehow compelled to dump the thing in 6 months.
Now you only get "excellent" customer supports from Oppo? I've never had an issue with Panasonic...but I would never claim to speak for a company's CS on the whole with such a fantastically limited experience-base. I know others have no problem doing so. Go figure.
My point stands: the Oppos are a poor choice for the VAST majority, when you consider the cost to secure them. The upticks in FEATURES (those analog outs, SACD/DVD A playback, etc) will generally go unused by 99% of BD users. The other PURPORTED performance benefits you (and others) tout are, at best, debatable.
The reality is that it's a "boutique" brand that is precisely what a percentage of "audio and videophiles" need
to have in their rack. They stuff a lot "hi end" stuff in their box...much of which means absolutely nothing in the end game of real-world audible
improvements...but it's nice to brag...I mean talk about. Simple as that.
Mock me all you like, I was trying to assist a member whom I surmised would be within the 99+% of us who would be fantastically over-spending by allotting $500 to $1000 on a blu ray player. I am not an Oppo "hater" as someone suggested and I resent the juvenile and baseless accusation...only thing worse than the turgid, impotent, "fanboy" vomit. I simply think they are grossly overpriced when contrasted with what you can purchase for ~ $100. I have the right to my opinion and I have backed it with fact and reasoning.
And if you had read my post more carefully that was all this was in the first place: the tendency of some
to recommend an Oppo player blindly without even considering how a member was going to use it. If people actually have USE for some of these features or their perceived
performance enhancements that's something totally different...although I still believe you do not need to spend anywhere near $1000 to get 99% of it done.