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I feel you, the sound in direct modes is very VERY 'thin', defenitly compared when XT32 is enabled. It get's better on high volumes though ... I have the exact experience with b&w 684's ... not the hardest speakers to drive ... conclusion, I listen to most of my airplayed music with audyssey on @15D b offset ... and subeq works really good with electronic music.
I would never use direct. I measured it once and it had the bass below 120hz down like 12db. I was like ??? And yes that was before my REW issues for those who know about that

I came to the conclusion I will do serious music listening in Stereo for now on. I really like the ambient PLII Music effect from surrounds and the front stage with heights and wides. But With stereo I stay just with my better speakers. But the main reason is...I was doing some comparing to the same song/clips repeated between Stereo and PLII Music. I noticed some subtle effects that sealed the deal for me. On PLII Music I was noticing some of the drums and electric guitar was more "recessed" and "muffled." It was like a muffling blanket was put over them if you were watching live. Back to stereo and they are fully present. I am sure this is that they are stereo soucres and something happens when the PLII Music preset does it's mixing. One song had an electric guitar starting with a very continual picking strum repeatedly. It is very precise and "forward" for lack of better description. Going to PLII Music it honestly is like someone put the guy on the guitar in one of those drum enclosures you see the drummer sitting in sometimes. Those clear Plexiglas enclosures used to dampen the drums sometimes. Just curious if anyone else has noticed these things. It certainly is not along the same lines of "this amp sounds better than the other amp." It is real noticeable differences.
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Most my hifi-nerd friends seems to run with as much processing turned off as possible also for movies. Absolutely no audyssey or similar. Not that strict myself, not yet at least.

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If your room is carefully treated and your speakers (and subs) are highly accurate, then there isn't much left for Audyssey to do. Most people don't have that kind of listening environment, though.

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If your room is carefully treated and your speakers (and subs) are highly accurate, then there isn't much left for Audyssey to do. Most people don't have that kind of listening environment, though.
Yup -- most of the time turning off Audyssey and other processing is more about "purity" bias than it is about actual objective data.

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I was watching a movie last night when suddenly the picture goes crazy and then nothing. I thought i was my brand new jvc projector wit am hdmi problem. After about 3 hours of double checking the hdmi output on the denon is bad. I am sending it in to a local repair shop in Connecticut. The tech i spoke to said he has replaced many of the hdmi boards. I thought only Onkyo had this kind of problem. I was not sure if i should of sent it to the New Jersey location or not. I hope it is not gone too long since i am using an old onkyo 501 in its place.

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Does anyone know haw many watts the 4520 actually draws? I'm currently using an APC 1300VA UPS with my 3808 and it doesn't come anywhere close to hitting the UPS max of 780 watts. But the 4520 is more powerful so if I need to get an APC 1500VA UPS(which can handle up to 865 watts) I need to put one in place of the 1300VA UPS before my 4520 arrives.

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Likely no more than 100W-110W on average (if that), although perhaps someone with a Kill-O-Watt can chime in.

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OK. Then I should be fine. Thanks.

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Does anyone know haw many watts the 4520 actually draws? I'm currently using an APC 1300VA UPS with my 3808 and it doesn't come anywhere close to hitting the UPS max of 780 watts. But the 4520 is more powerful so if I need to get an APC 1500VA UPS(which can handle up to 865 watts) I need to put one in place of the 1300VA UPS before my 4520 arrives.
I don't know if it will be more stateside, but down here (230v), I used a Belkin device to measure (it's available off Amazon), and at idle it's about 25W, and in full tilt it's still less than 150W, but I have subs taking the stress off for the lower frequencies.

I once attached my laptop, Oppo BR player, TV, 4520 and stereo amp to the same socket, and the total draw was less than 700W...
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