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I can't handle dyn eq on. When watching normal HDTV with 5.1, the mids and lows are just boomy. I cut it off all the time.

I think part of it matters with speakers. On my old setup, I enjoyed it OK, but not now. YMMV.

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This is what my email receipt from AC4L says:

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Cool, I also notice (DENAVR4520CIA) the A at the end for A stock vs B.
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I can't handle dyn eq on. When watching normal HDTV with 5.1, the mids and lows are just boomy. I cut it off all the time.

I think part of it matters with speakers. On my old setup, I enjoyed it OK, but not now. YMMV.
You need to adjust the Reference Level Offset to make DEQ usable with non film sources. Most TV broadcasts are recorded at different levels than films so using DEQ on full blast will cause boomy bass and overwhelming surrounds. Rather than turning it off entirely, adjusting the RLO will help tone it down and make it usable again.

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No thanks, IMO, it aint needed.

And IMO, your statement brings to light stupid decisions by companies (Audyssey/Denon). When I run Audyssey, they enable dyn eq by default, yet it is flawed in it's enabled setting. Real swift!

I watch HDTV (Directv) around -12.0 to -8.0, and it sounds great. No need for any features like Dyn EQ for me. I never sit around and watch at "low" volumes.

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Snowy interference

My (1yr old) 4520 just started randomly displaying a snowy interference. White specks evenly distributed across the entire image. It comes and goes and is sometimes very faint and sometimes very bright. Coincidentally my previous AVR (4308) did this also. The image would cut out frequently with the snowy image remaining. This was the reason I bought the 4520.

Any ideas? Anyone else experiencing this?

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No thanks, IMO, it aint needed.

And IMO, your statement brings to light stupid decisions by companies (Audyssey/Denon). When I run Audyssey, they enable dyn eq by default, yet it is flawed in it's enabled setting. Real swift!

I watch HDTV (Directv) around -12.0 to -8.0, and it sounds great. No need for any features like Dyn EQ for me. I never sit around and watch at "low" volumes.
That is basically effective reference level for the broadcast content. That's why you don't need DEQ (at least at the default setting).

So if you set DEQ to RLO of 10db it would be doing nothing. The advantage would be that if on occasion you happen to listen a a reduced volume, DEQ will start kicking in and maintain the same tonal balance.

If you never lower the volume, well then it doesn't matter. No need for dynamic compensation if your volume is static.
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I just watched a BluRay on my PS3, and my 4520 display 'IN' has only FL & FR illuminated. The PS3 tells me it is outputting the DTS-MA 5.1 output, and I am listening in DTS Neo-X through 9.1 speakers. It doesn't sound like it is matrixed from stereo, but I'm wondering what is going on.

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If the Denon says the input signal is 2ch then that's what it's getting. Time to go check your PS3 audio settings. It's not enough to select the 5.1 soundtrack on the disc if the global output settings are configured for stereo output.

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I just ordered my 4520ci.

Now I need to return the x4000
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I just watched a BluRay on my PS3, and my 4520 display 'IN' has only FL & FR illuminated. The PS3 tells me it is outputting the DTS-MA 5.1 output, and I am listening in DTS Neo-X through 9.1 speakers. It doesn't sound like it is matrixed from stereo, but I'm wondering what is going on.

Is that what it shows when you hit the round "display" button on the PS3 remote? If so, and if you have the older "fat" model, try setting BD audio to LPCM. Ran into that myself. There is a PS3 FAQ here that you might want to check out. I'm assuming you are using HDMI for audio output.

http://www.avsforum.com/showthread.php?t=931796

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Thanks for the comments! Sorry - I should have been more descriptive in my original post:
  • PS3 Slimmest (latest generation) outputting audio via HDMI-only (no multi-output via optical, etc, which I know limits the surround output capabilities).
  • 4520CI outputting in Main zone only, 9.1 surround via DTS Neo-X, Front LH/Ctr/RH are line-level output to external amp - Emotiva XPA-3.

Per the feedback, I will read up on how I might be unwittingly down-mixing the audio coming out of the PS3. I will note that the PS3 automatically turns my plasma on via CEC, prior to me turning on the 4520 (HDMI-Through). Perhaps the initial handshake causes the crippling of the audio. I will try turning the 4520 on FIRST next time.

I just set up the system last week, and started watching blurays daily since Sunday. It will be funny/tragic if all of these have been lossy 2Ch stereo artificially expanded to 9 channels. At least it offers the possibility that the performance can get even better from this point!!!

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No thanks, IMO, it aint needed.

And IMO, your statement brings to light stupid decisions by companies (Audyssey/Denon). When I run Audyssey, they enable dyn eq by default, yet it is flawed in it's enabled setting. Real swift!

I watch HDTV (Directv) around -12.0 to -8.0, and it sounds great. No need for any features like Dyn EQ for me. I never sit around and watch at "low" volumes.
Well it is a feature to use if needed.
I do my tv viewing mostly at mv - 20 to -30 so considerably lower.
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