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What's the best way to stream Netflix in 5.1 surround? I thought the 4520 could connect to Netflix directly, but I can't figure out how to do it, so I connected my laptop (win 7) via hdmi and netflix apparently only plays in stereo... Any suggestions?
Receivers don't do direct video streaming, you need another device that can provide the stream. As you have found through the Internet version of Netflix is limited to 2ch. Many devices (bluray players, TVs, video game systems etc) have Netflix and other streaming services built in. So something you already own may have Netflix streaming. Or you can get a dedicated streaming box for 100 bucks like Apple TV or Roku or Amazon Fire.

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Receivers don't do direct video streaming, you need another device that can provide the stream. As you have found through the Internet version of Netflix is limited to 2ch. Many devices (bluray players, TVs, video game systems etc) have Netflix and other streaming services built in. So something you already own may have Netflix streaming. Or you can get a dedicated streaming box for 100 bucks like Apple TV or Roku or Amazon Fire.
Can an iPad stream netflix to the 4520? Do I have to physically connect it? does it need a special connection? Or will the standard apple USB cable work?
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That setting allows you to access the receiver over the network when it's in STANDBY. When you go to do the save the receiver is powered on. So setting that to off doesn't prevent you from doing the network save.
With my 4520, leaving the network port set to on while in standby caused issues. I could save a couple of configurations but after that I would have issues. By leaving it off while in standby I have not had any more issues with my config saves.

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What's the best way to stream Netflix in 5.1 surround? I thought the 4520 could connect to Netflix directly, but I can't figure out how to do it, so I connected my laptop (win 7) via hdmi and netflix apparently only plays in stereo... Any suggestions?
Get a FireTV stick. It will stream Netflix in 5.1 DD+.

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I guess I just need to get Apple TV...
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Sorry to change the subject, I'm just mulling over the apple airplay usage of the 4520. The way I understand it, you need to buy an apple unit to connect with your network/wifi. How is that any better than just buying an apple tv, which connects by HDMI to the avr? For me to connect the Denon to my network is going to take a cat 5 cable run that's pretty much impossible unless I rip my basement apart.
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AppleTV, which has a wireless connection, supports audio and video. Airplay on the 4500 supports only audio. And as you say, the ApplTV connects to the 4520 using HDMI.

And as far as providing network connectivity to the 4520, if you find the need, all you need is a wireless adapter like the Linksys WET610N. Assuming, of course, that you have a wireless network.
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I do have wireless, but because of a neighbor on one side, it can be pretty sketchy. Streaming a movie with the Oppo 103 can have dropouts. I'll be on the net with the laptop in the theater room, and watch my wireless signal suddenly drop right out, taking a minute or two to re sync. At times my garage door clicker won't close the door after I back out, I have to go inside to the wired button. The rest of the time, the opener can read the clicker from over 100 feet away. it's also on the same side of the house, next to the same neighbor. Their house is about 14 feet from ours.

Anyway, so for me it might work better to have appletv.
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I do have wireless, but because of a neighbor on one side, it can be pretty sketchy. Streaming a movie with the Oppo 103 can have dropouts. I'll be on the net with the laptop in the theater room, and watch my wireless signal suddenly drop right out, taking a minute or two to re sync. At times my garage door clicker won't close the door after I back out, I have to go inside to the wired button. The rest of the time, the opener can read the clicker from over 100 feet away. it's also on the same side of the house, next to the same neighbor. Their house is about 14 feet from ours.

Anyway, so for me it might work better to have appletv.
I'm using Powerline wireless and have had good luck so far.
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I do have wireless, but because of a neighbor on one side, it can be pretty sketchy. Streaming a movie with the Oppo 103 can have dropouts. I'll be on the net with the laptop in the theater room, and watch my wireless signal suddenly drop right out, taking a minute or two to re sync. At times my garage door clicker won't close the door after I back out, I have to go inside to the wired button. The rest of the time, the opener can read the clicker from over 100 feet away. it's also on the same side of the house, next to the same neighbor. Their house is about 14 feet from ours.

Anyway, so for me it might work better to have appletv.
Well, AppleTV requires a wireless connection as well. So unless you are ready to pull that Cat5 cable, you should trouble-shoot your wireless network. If you and your neighbor are using the same channel, that could cause issues. But it is easy to assess which channels are being used in your area, and select the best one (assuming you are familiar with your router's setup menu).

I use several freeware network analyzer tools that would allow you to check things out:

- WiFi Channel Scanner
- NetSurveyor (my choice)
- Wireless Wizard
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Thanks for the suggestions, I didn't realize you could analyze things like that.

I thought the apple tv would be better, because I'd just be streaming about 15 feet, with the wifi It'd be 40 feet or so. At any rate, I'll try out those tools.
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Call me crazy but I can't seem to find a way to display the input signal. What's the best way to do this? (Onscreen preferred).

I leave the receiver on NEO:X all the time now so I know the output will always be 11.2.

I saw another Denon receiver that had a nice information screen with a little image showing the input signal, can't seem to find it on the 4520.
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Call me crazy but I can't seem to find a way to display the input signal. What's the best way to do this? (Onscreen preferred).

I leave the receiver on NEO:X all the time now so I know the output will always be 11.2.

I saw another Denon receiver that had a nice information screen with a little image showing the input signal, can't seem to find it on the 4520.
The 4520 doesn't have that info screen with the little picture showing the speakers. There's an audio information screen that'll show you the input signal format (e.g. DOLBY TRUEHD 3/2/.1) but it's buried in the menu system and there are no graphics. Rather than digging through menus for that information I use DeRemote on my iPad which shows the same thing at the top of the screen at all times.
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Hi guys!
Thinking of pulling the trigger on the 4520. Currently using the 4308ci as a pre with emotive xpa2/xpa5. I have had the 4308 for about 4 years, its been a great avr. I currently can get the 4520 new for a great price...
I'm going to keep this simple....going from the 4308 to the 4520 worth the upgrade?? Is the 4520 a better machine, better sonics as a pre amp? I appreciate your help and comments. Awhile back I was going to upgrade to the 4311 but never did. I've been holding off, but this price from acessoriesforless is to hard to pass up..
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I just lost sound on one of my HDMI inputs that I was using my DISH Network Joey receiver on, this happened several times with my 4311 also. I know that a micro processor reset will fix this, however I will also lose all of my settings. Is there a way to store the setting so I do not have to run Audyssey again?

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Call me crazy but I can't seem to find a way to display the input signal. What's the best way to do this? (Onscreen preferred).

I leave the receiver on NEO:X all the time now so I know the output will always be 11.2.

I saw another Denon receiver that had a nice information screen with a little image showing the input signal, can't seem to find it on the 4520.
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Hi guys!
Thinking of pulling the trigger on the 4520. Currently using the 4308ci as a pre with emotive xpa2/xpa5. I have had the 4308 for about 4 years, its been a great avr. I currently can get the 4520 new for a great price...
I'm going to keep this simple....going from the 4308 to the 4520 worth the upgrade?? Is the 4520 a better machine, better sonics as a pre amp? I appreciate your help and comments. Awhile back I was going to upgrade to the 4311 but never did. I've been holding off, but this price from acessoriesforless is to hard to pass up..
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Anyone coming from a 4308 to the 4520 ??? Big upgrade?? Thanks in advance for your help and comments...
I came from the 3808(I had decided against the 4308 back in 2008 since i didn't need two hdmi outputs). Both the 4308 and the 3808 had Audyssey MultEQ XT. It was a huge leap with the MultEQ XT32 in the 4520.

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I came from the 3808(I had decided against the 4308 back in 2008 since i didn't need two hdmi outputs). Both the 4308 and the 3808 had Audyssey MultEQ XT. It was a huge leap with the MultEQ XT32 in the 4520.
thanks for your response!
Im 95% almost there...what else did you notice? Better sound? Im will be using the 4520 as a pre...I will only using two channels of the 9 for zone 2 and 3. Xpa 2/xpa 5 powering everything else
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Anyone coming from a 4308 to the 4520 ??? Big upgrade?? Thanks in advance for your help and comments...
As aaronwt said, the upgrade from the 4308 to the 4520 is worth it if for no other reason than Audyssey XT32.
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As aaronwt said, the upgrade from the 4308 to the 4520 is worth it if for no other reason than Audyssey XT32.
Thanks for your opinion.
Have multi xt on the 4308 I never really cared for it. Always made the sound sound thin and dull...I always kepted it off.
You guys are saying xt32 is that good huh?
It improves sound quality that dramatically?
So overall the 4520 is a way better machine then the 4308 for pure sound quality and functionality ?
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Thanks for your opinion.
Have multi xt on the 4308 I never really cared for it. Always made the sound sound thin and dull...I always kepted it off.
You guys are saying xt32 is that good huh?
It improves sound quality that dramatically?
So overall the 4520 is a way better machine then the 4308 for pure sound quality and functionality ?

Coming from a 3808 CI I would say yes... I never had a 4308 to compare.
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The **OFFICIAL** DENON AVR-4520CI thread

I went from my 4308 , dec-2007 buy, to a 4520, dec-2012 buy.
Yes, well worth the difference, xt32 is that good, the processors are much faster in 4520 for calibration, plus allowed me to go 11.2


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Anyone coming from a 4308 to the 4520 ??? Big upgrade?? Thanks in advance for your help and comments...
For movies XT32 was really a big step from my 4308A to a 4520, more than I anticipated, especially for bass and voice clarity. Calibration is quicker too, as is setup flexibility and options and stuff. Not reasons in itself to buy of course. For music listening, mostly pure direct for me on a B&W 803 Diamond setup, the improvement was less noticeable, or at least, more difficult to be sure about. Overall, I was not disappointed, and I could upgrade my bedroom system too with a XT setup...
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For movies XT32 was really a big step from my 4308A to a 4520, more than I anticipated, especially for bass and voice clarity. Calibration is quicker too, as is setup flexibility and options and stuff. Not reasons in itself to buy of course. For music listening, mostly pure direct for me on a B&W 803 Diamond setup, the improvement was less noticeable, or at least, more difficult to be sure about. Overall, I was not disappointed, and I could upgrade my bedroom system too with a XT setup...
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+1 my 4308CI went into my family room as 5.1 set-up, replacing a nearly DOA 2000 Onkyo 787, Audyssey XT is decent in itself and the version in the 4308 does a "nice" job.

Are these still around for $999? a 4520 for that is a steal just for the amps! Heck when I go Atmos in 2016/2017 with 10.4.8 I'll keep the 4520 in the basement HT as external amp source for whatever the 2016/7 Denon x9200 AVR needs on top of it's 11 built in amps
^^^ of course my pure speculation on a 9200
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I came from the 3808(I had decided against the 4308 back in 2008 since i didn't need two hdmi outputs). Both the 4308 and the 3808 had Audyssey MultEQ XT. It was a huge leap with the MultEQ XT32 in the 4520.
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+1 my 4308CI went into my family room as 5.1 set-up, replacing a nearly DOA 2000 Onkyo 787, Audyssey XT is decent in itself and the version in the 4308 does a "nice" job.

Are these still around for $999? a 4520 for that is a steal just for the amps! Heck when I go Atmos in 2016/2017 with 10.4.8 I'll keep the 4520 in the basement HT as external amp source for whatever the 2016/7 Denon x9200 AVR needs on top of it's 11 built in amps
^^^ of course my pure speculation on a 9200
Love the speculation on the x9200 but I hope you are correct!
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Love the speculation on the x9200 but I hope you are correct!
Hopefully, as their 2 year cycle for flagships means we should see something "bigger and better" than the x7200, which becomes available Jan-2015 so having something 2 years from now like a x9200 seems within their R&D roadmap.

Maybe you and I should start a seperate "wish list thread" for a 2016/2017 Denon flagship.......

"The official Denon 2017 flagship AVR (x9200?) wishlist", put all our reasonable musts and wants there, to offload the random postings in the various threads and give some focus the high end customers desires......are you game?
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Love the speculation on the x9200 but I hope you are correct!
I got even more speculation for you.

Primarily 11 channel processing will with Atmos soon be considered "the early days" i estimate in fact that within two or three years the top end of avr's will have full processing support for atmos's 34 home theater channels.

And they would most likely require something like two seperate 10 channel amps to get there, but these would most likely not need be very powerful so I also suspect we will see affordable 50 or 70 watts pr channel in 7+ channel configurations coming shortly.

As for a feature I really wished existed this last week would be a "butt kicker" mode which would let me enable the second subwoofer output without requiring audyssey recalibration, so I could setup my new ultra cheap transducers kit with seperate distance (aka phase) and trim and none of the eq correction as my other subs are getting.
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