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post #10801 of 13580 Old 12-22-2014, 12:42 PM
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That sounds easy enough.

I have my Oppo and cable to the 4520. Then 4520 hdmi 1 to my w1070 and hdmi 2 to my Sony 60. Plus have hdmi from Xbox 360 directly to hdmi 2 on the w1070.
I have my 103D and 4520 on the left side of my entertainment center with a
ViewHD Prosumer Ultra HD HDMI True Matrix 4X2 Switcher (VHD-PRO4X2) and then have my DirectTV and Sony 5200 BR player on the right side.

I instructed the family to only use the right side for non critical TV viewing and when I want to watch a movie or DirectTV source I take over and make all the proper selections for running AV theough the 103D and 4520.

So far so good. ;-)

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I have my 103D and 4520 on the left side of my entertainment center with a
ViewHD Prosumer Ultra HD HDMI True Matrix 4X2 Switcher (VHD-PRO4X2) and then have my DirectTV and Sony 5200 BR player on the right side.

I instructed the family to only use the right side for non critical TV viewing and when I want to watch a movie or DirectTV source I take over and make all the proper selections for running AV theough the 103D and 4520.

So far so good. ;-)

Picking up some KEF X300A self powered speakers to run instead of the built in speakers to give them a more audial experience without the fuss.
Lol, you sound like me.

My wife and son only watch Comcast on it as it's set to passthru on the 4520. If we watch something else I take over too.

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Assign Mode
I am trying to make sense of this setting as it applies to my situation.
My setup is 5.2 for both HT and all channel music in the MAIN ZONE. Not using any other zone.

After running Audyssey, i notice the assign mode defaults to 7.1/2CH FRONT which does not reflect my setup.
None of the other options, as far as i can tell seems to reflect my setup.

9.1 (SB/FH/FW) which "Assigns all power amplifiers within this unit for MAIN ZONE" be the correct option or would the CUSTOM option allow me assign all power amplifiers within the unit to my 5 or 5.2 speakers?

If i make the change, do I need to re run Audyssey?

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Assign mode is sort of irrelevant if you are only running 5 speakers. The "core" 5.1 setup is basically the fixed baseline -- amp assign controls how the additional amps are deployed, eg to power other zones, extra speakers in main zone, or separate 2ch speakers as you have it currently set.

Audyssey doesn't set the amp assignment. So it must have got to 7.1ch/2ch mode some other way. In this mode stereo playback will be expecting a second set of 2ch speakers, which you don't have. So set it to 9ch or 7.1+zone2 and you should be good to go. No need to re run Audyssey since all the speakers present have a calibration profile.
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I might plan to, but I can also get the x4100 at a local dealer for about $1200. I don't plan to install speakers in my ceiling either at this point so not sure about ATMOS.

So I can get the 4520 for $1100 or the x4100 for $1200...which one do you think would be best? I do plan to watch action movies, video games and listen to music.
if you dont plan to do ATMOS...then the X4000 can be had for about $700 on clearance
I say this because you mentioned you hadn't planned to spend that much

A bunch of people, including myself, paid less for for 4520 a few months ago
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if you dont plan to do ATMOS...then the X4000 can be had for about $700 on clearance
I say this because you mentioned you hadn't planned to spend that much

A bunch of people, including myself, paid less for for 4520 a few months ago
so A4L is not offering you any deal

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I was wondering about that! At first I did have my sights on the x4000 because of the attractive price now, although I see it mostly for $800 online. Will keep an eye on that to see if it reaches $700 (I know A4L is selling it for $688 refurbished).

Wow, you paid less than $1100 for the 4520?? Where and how much??

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I was wondering about that! At first I did have my sights on the x4000 because of the attractive price now, although I see it mostly for $800 online. Will keep an eye on that to see if it reaches $700 (I know A4L is selling it for $688 refurbished).

Wow, you paid less than $1100 for the 4520?? Where and how much??

-Nap
I think they paid round $900 also BB had them too at that price I think.

I bought mine from a4l at $1095 brand new a few months ago and have no regrets. I first bought a 4000 from BB for $799 and ended up returning it for the 4520. Reason was for lots of people with shutdown issues. I know warranty is there but too many reviews with that issue. Plus the 4000 is China built and the 4520 is Japan. My older 3806 that a replaced was Japan also. Either way I have been extremely happy and was able to upgrade to wides and heights.

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I was wondering about that! At first I did have my sights on the x4000 because of the attractive price now, although I see it mostly for $800 online. Will keep an eye on that to see if it reaches $700 (I know A4L is selling it for $688 refurbished).

Wow, you paid less than $1100 for the 4520?? Where and how much??

-Nap
I paid $774 for the 4520..new in box at Magnolia Home theater
I had some special circumstances...but anyone could have bought it there for the $999 clearance price and the 10% off mover's coupon...bringing it to about $899

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Assign mode is sort of irrelevant if you are only running 5 speakers. The "core" 5.1 setup is basically the fixed baseline -- amp assign controls how the additional amps are deployed, eg to power other zones, extra speakers in main zone, or separate 2ch speakers as you have it currently set.

Audyssey doesn't set the amp assignment. So it must have got to 7.1ch/2ch mode some other way. In this mode stereo playback will be expecting a second set of 2ch speakers, which you don't have. So set it to 9ch or 7.1+zone2 and you should be good to go. No need to re run Audyssey since all the speakers present have a calibration profile.
Thanks for the clarification.

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You should be able to basically set it to whatever, in the first audyssey sweep ran during calibration the avr will try pinging all selected channels and if nothing comes from it I believe it just deactivates the channels.
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I just joined the club. My older Onkyo HT receiver went belly up so I ordered a new Denon AVR4520CI this morning. Looking forward to testing it out.

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You should be able to basically set it to whatever, in the first audyssey sweep ran during calibration the avr will try pinging all selected channels and if nothing comes from it I believe it just deactivates the channels.
This is generally true, but there can sometimes be implications of not selecting the correct Amp Assign mode. For example, if you are in a 7.1ch amp assign mode it could detect extra speakers beyond 7.1 (e.g. 7.1+Front Height) but you couldn't do 9ch simultaneous (only 7). Or, in this specific case, the "2ch" assign mode is a special mode that will mute your front speakers in Stereo playback and reroute the 2ch signal to a separate pair of 2ch dedicated speakers... which, in the OP's case, are nonexistent, so he would get silence when trying to play music in Stereo!

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These options can get so confusing some times

Glad you guys are gracious enough to help make sense of it all!

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just joined the 4520 club and have run the calibration on my 9.2 (wides) setup. what listening mode do most prefer when watching a blu-ray? what about sports?
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just joined the 4520 club and have run the calibration on my 9.2 (wides) setup. what listening mode do most prefer when watching a blu-ray? what about sports?

I use DTS NEO:X for Blu Ray movies. I don't watch sports.
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just joined the 4520 club and have run the calibration on my 9.2 (wides) setup. what listening mode do most prefer when watching a blu-ray? what about sports?
I keep trying Neo x with my heights and wides and it's good but less pronounced than audessey DSX.

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I use DTS NEO:X for Blu Ray movies. I don't watch sports.
You don't use lossless audio such as DTS HD MSTR or Dolby TrueHD?
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You don't use lossless audio such as DTS HD MSTR or Dolby TrueHD?
What is the setup trick to using these multiple options. And can you program them to the quick select buttons on your remote? Thanks, lots still to learn.....
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HDMI out issues

This has happened twice now about three weeks apart. I turn on my 4520 and my TV and I get no picture. No video from any input at all.
Also no menu to show up from 4520. Its like it's not outputting any signal from the HDMI out.
I have to unplug the 4520 and plug it back in. This fixes the problem but I'm afraid it might be the start of a bigger problem. I still have some warranty left from Accesorries4Less.
Other than that I love it. Any ideas?

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What is the setup trick to using these multiple options. And can you program them to the quick select buttons on your remote? Thanks, lots still to learn.....
No trick, just play with your audio listening modes. ...Pick the one(s) you like, that's it.
* Read the pertinent part in your manual; listening audio modes, setting them for your sources, and straight Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA.

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This has happened twice now about three weeks apart. I turn on my 4520 and my TV and I get no picture. No video from any input at all.
Also no menu to show up from 4520. Its like it's not outputting any signal from the HDMI out.
I have to unplug the 4520 and plug it back in. This fixes the problem but I'm afraid it might be the start of a bigger problem. I still have some warranty left from Accesorries4Less.
Other than that I love it. Any ideas?
Try a reset, check in your manual on how to perform that.
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No trick, just play with your audio listening modes. ...Pick the one(s) you like, that's it.
* Read the pertinent part in your manual; listening audio modes, setting them for your sources, and straight Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA.
Thanks, would have been nice if you just said to hold down one of the four buttons on the remote that correspond to the mode change I was after, but after searching the manual I found it.
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Researching AVR's to replace my aging 3801. Not really planning on going to 7.1 (WAF and space constraints).

If I am running a standard 5.1 setup, do you all think the 4520CI is overkill for what I have or should I look at something like a x4000 or perhaps something else? The 4520CI looks like a smokin hot deal on a great AVR.

I tend to keep these receivers for a while and looking for excellent sound for my new Goldenear Sat3s and Sat 5.

Thanks!
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This has happened twice now about three weeks apart. I turn on my 4520 and my TV and I get no picture. No video from any input at all.
Also no menu to show up from 4520. Its like it's not outputting any signal from the HDMI out.
I have to unplug the 4520 and plug it back in. This fixes the problem but I'm afraid it might be the start of a bigger problem. I still have some warranty left from Accesorries4Less.
Other than that I love it. Any ideas?
You are most probably right in thinking that the symptom is the start of a bigger problem - that is of loose, or loosening connection/s. This is not very uncommon with the avr4520. Thermal expansion and contraction of the connectors inside the unit can exacerbate or temporarily fix the symptom/s.

I would get it replaced if I were you while it is still under warranty.
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Thanks, would have been nice if you just said to hold down one of the four buttons on the remote that correspond to the mode change I was after, but after searching the manual I found it.
It would also have been nice that I own one of the latest Denon/Marantz receivers. ...Coming up, in 2015, with a Marantz pre/pro.
- I'm glad that somewhere Denon mentioned it in their manual.
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Researching AVR's to replace my aging 3801. Not really planning on going to 7.1 (WAF and space constraints).

If I am running a standard 5.1 setup, do you all think the 4520CI is overkill for what I have or should I look at something like a x4000 or perhaps something else? The 4520CI looks like a smokin hot deal on a great AVR.

I tend to keep these receivers for a while and looking for excellent sound for my new Goldenear Sat3s and Sat 5.

Thanks!
First of all, Go Bulls!

Secondly, you didn't provide any details about your requirements or listening/viewing habits, so by definition both the 4520 and the X4000 would be overkill for a 5.1 speaker setup; however, that doesn't mean that either one is not suitable or a terrific bargain at the currently discounted clearance prices.

Given that you seem to anticipate wanting to hold on to whatever AVR you get for more than a few years, I would suggest that you consider purchasing a newer model since the older units will tend to become obsolete sooner. It would appear that you are budgeting at least $800 to $1000 for the purchase; if you could go a couple hundred higher you could score the X4100, which offers the latest and most advanced technology in D&M models (Bluetooth, wireless, Audyssey MultEQ XT32, et al) in addition to Dolby Atmos. Although WAF and space constraints may be currently preventing you from expanding your listener-level speakers beyond 5.1, those issues can be circumvented for the addition of height speakers via in-ceiling installation or Atmos-enabled upfiring modules allowing you the potential to go to 5.1.4 in the future. If you use your system for much movie-watching, I would give the Multidimensional Audio factor strong consideration when shopping for a new, long-term AVR.
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