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Thanks, would have been nice if you just said to hold down one of the four buttons on the remote that correspond to the mode change I was after, but after searching the manual I found it.
It would also have been nice that I own one of the latest Denon/Marantz receivers. ...Coming up, in 2015, with a Marantz pre/pro.
- I'm glad that somewhere Denon mentioned it in their manual.
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Researching AVR's to replace my aging 3801. Not really planning on going to 7.1 (WAF and space constraints).

If I am running a standard 5.1 setup, do you all think the 4520CI is overkill for what I have or should I look at something like a x4000 or perhaps something else? The 4520CI looks like a smokin hot deal on a great AVR.

I tend to keep these receivers for a while and looking for excellent sound for my new Goldenear Sat3s and Sat 5.

Thanks!
First of all, Go Bulls!

Secondly, you didn't provide any details about your requirements or listening/viewing habits, so by definition both the 4520 and the X4000 would be overkill for a 5.1 speaker setup; however, that doesn't mean that either one is not suitable or a terrific bargain at the currently discounted clearance prices.

Given that you seem to anticipate wanting to hold on to whatever AVR you get for more than a few years, I would suggest that you consider purchasing a newer model since the older units will tend to become obsolete sooner. It would appear that you are budgeting at least $800 to $1000 for the purchase; if you could go a couple hundred higher you could score the X4100, which offers the latest and most advanced technology in D&M models (Bluetooth, wireless, Audyssey MultEQ XT32, et al) in addition to Dolby Atmos. Although WAF and space constraints may be currently preventing you from expanding your listener-level speakers beyond 5.1, those issues can be circumvented for the addition of height speakers via in-ceiling installation or Atmos-enabled upfiring modules allowing you the potential to go to 5.1.4 in the future. If you use your system for much movie-watching, I would give the Multidimensional Audio factor strong consideration when shopping for a new, long-term AVR.
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Researching AVR's to replace my aging 3801. Not really planning on going to 7.1 (WAF and space constraints).

If I am running a standard 5.1 setup, do you all think the 4520CI is overkill for what I have or should I look at something like a x4000 or perhaps something else? The 4520CI looks like a smokin hot deal on a great AVR.

I tend to keep these receivers for a while and looking for excellent sound for my new Goldenear Sat3s and Sat 5.

Thanks!
No such thing as overkill in this hobby, it's called headroom instead :-P
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You don't use lossless audio such as DTS HD MSTR or Dolby TrueHD?

No, NEO:X sounds better to me with 11.2 channels. But I might play around some more when I get the time - doesn't cost anything ( other than time ) to try other settings !

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Anyone running the receiver with 4 ohm speaker? does not say in the spec
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Anyone running the receiver with 4 ohm speaker? does not say in the spec
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Works great with my Triads - all 4 ohm

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Anyone running the receiver with 4 ohm speaker? does not say in the spec
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Works great with my JTR 212's.
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Thank you guys for the reply will try to run with sonus faber speaker
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Anyone running the receiver with 4 ohm speaker? does not say in the spec
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It is 100% 4ohm rated.

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...All Onkyo/Integra receivers too; THX Ultra2 Plus certified.
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...All Onkyo/Integra receivers too; THX Ultra2 Plus certified.
Um, I know that. So?

This is a Denon 4520 thread, didn't see anyone asking about Onkyo and Integra 4 ohm ratings...
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...All Onkyo/Integra receivers too; THX Ultra2 Plus certified.
Um, I know that. So?

This is a Denon 4520 thread, didn't see anyone asking about Onkyo and Integra 4 ohm ratings...
Nothing but another forum ban will prevent him from posting irrelevancies and drivel on threads in which he has nothing useful to contribute. Best to Ignore. He doesn't even own a D/M model but has somehow infested all of these threads.
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Anyone order the 4520ci from BHPhoto?
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Thank you guys for the reply will try to run with sonus faber speaker
Recommend you lie to the AVR and tell it that your speakers are 8 ohm however. Gives a bit more headroom.

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Um, I know that. So?

This is a Denon 4520 thread, didn't see anyone asking about Onkyo and Integra 4 ohm ratings...
I am so sorry; I totally forgot which thread I was in.

* I simply mentioned, ,,, there was nothing more than that.

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Nothing but another forum ban will prevent him from posting irrelevancies and drivel on threads in which he has nothing useful to contribute. Best to Ignore. He doesn't even own a D/M model but has somehow infested all of these threads.
Please, refrain from personal negative remarks towards other members. If you have a personal issue with another member, keep it out of the threads.

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Anyone order the 4520ci from BHPhoto?
I haven't ordered a 4520 from them but I've ordered a laptop and a camera from them in the past with great results.
I wouldn't hesitate if the price is right for you.
I do have a 4520 also and recommend it also, if it fits your needs.
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Anyone know if the 4520 can handle a 2 channel 24bit/192kHz track from an Oppo 103D using HDMI?
It plays the 5.1 channel 24bit/96kHz fine.
Thanks for any input and sorry if this has been answered in the past but I couldn't find it if so.
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Anyone know if the 4520 can handle a 2 channel 24bit/192kHz track from an Oppo 103D using HDMI?
It plays the 5.1 channel 24bit/96kHz fine.
Thanks for any input and sorry if this has been answered in the past but I couldn't find it if so.
Of course it does, and even a multichannel Dolby TrueHD 5.1 @ 192kHz/24-bit (HDMI), like this guy here below:



♦ Some DVD Audio discs with 24/192 stereo tracks, some Blu-ray Audio (Pure Audio) discs, ...same thing.
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The 4520 also handles the decoded 192Khz, 24 bit Dolby True HD track. So from a Sony PS4 it receives a 5.1, 192Khz, 24bit multi-channel pcm signal to the 4520.(I have my PS4 set to pcm output instead of bitstreaming)

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The 4520 also handles the decoded 192Khz, 24 bit Dolby True HD track. So from a Sony PS4 it receives a 5.1, 192Khz, 24bit multi-channel pcm signal to the 4520.(I have my PS4 set to pcm output instead of bitstreaming)
But the DSP chip in the 4520 most probably down-samples the 192 kHz input signal to 48 kHz prior to processing when Audyssey engaged.
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But the DSP chip in the 4520 most probably down-samples the 192 kHz input signal to 48 kHz prior to processing when Audyssey engaged.
Yes. ...Indeed.
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I have had the 4520 for a week and I have a question about NEO-X . I have a 9.1 speaker setup with Wides and Back Surrounds. How do I get all 9 of these to be in use when watching TV, primarily movies such as HBO programs, nothing with an actual 9 channel soundtrack.

I have switched sound modes via Sound Mode Movie button between NEO: X FW and NEO:X SB. NEO:X SB gives me Back Surrounds but not Wides and NEO:X FW gives me Wides but no Back Surrounds. What am I missing ?

I have the AMP setup on 7.1 + Zone 2 is this the correct setup? Should I change it to Custom and change the Heights terminal to Wides output since I'm not using Heights ?


thanks in advance for the help and sorry is this has been answered before but I couldn't find anything in searching this thread.

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I have had the 4520 for a week and I have a question about NEO-X . I have a 9.1 speaker setup with Wides and Back Surrounds. How do I get all 9 of these to be in use when watching TV, primarily movies such as HBO programs, nothing with an actual 9 channel soundtrack.

I have switched sound modes via Sound Mode Movie button between NEO: X FW and NEO:X SB. NEO:X SB gives me Back Surrounds but not Wides and NEO:X FW gives me Wides but no Back Surrounds. What am I missing ?

I have the AMP setup on 7.1 + Zone 2 is this the correct setup? Should I change it to Custom and change the Heights terminal to Wides output since I'm not using Heights ?


thanks in advance for the help and sorry is this has been answered before but I couldn't find anything in searching this thread.

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I believe you have to select 9.1ch (SB/FH/FW) in amp assign.
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I believe you have to select 9.1ch (SB/FH/FW) in amp assign.
Thanks, I'll try that. BTW love your Martycube's . I just built two as well. Not pretty but behind an AT screen. I might PM you about your Inuke settings...

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You are on a 7ch mode for amp assignment but are trying to run 9 ch simultaneously so..... the math ain't on your side.
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Just found this review on the 4520, which you might have already read, but was just curious if any owners had an opinion on it.

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