Originally Posted by lovinthehd
Yes, its nicer to have more detailed specs rather than just a guideline. What speakers was your experience above with?
(I should probably resize that but it's sunday and I do not intend to leave the couch, sue me.)
Not that well known a brand outside of scandinavia I guess, but running a 5.1 setup consisting of Dali mentor 6 fronts, their Mentor vokal center speakers, all three fronts use the same speaker modules so in total 6x 6.5" drivers with 3 dual dome\ribbon tweeters, rated at 6 ohm's and 89.5 db (90,5 db for the center) sensitivity. considering my room is also smaller than 30 square feet getting them to sound loud is not a problem.
And even though every salesman of this brand loves to say how easy they are to power, my experience says otherwise, I would rather have 100 watts headroom and not need it 99% of the time, but even at lower volumes I get benefits from the external amp.
Originally Posted by tap
I think it's just lazy programming. It seems pretty common. I have an Onkyo 626 that won't play multichannel files either. Nor will the media player in my Panasonic tv nor the LG Bluray player. Seem a HTPC setup is basically the only thing that will.
The LG Bluray will play 192kHz FLAC, but if I check the audio info on the 4520 it reports it's receiving 48 kHz PCM. I imagine everything is just downsampled to 48 kHz in the media player app. I can't check the TV's app, since the Denon info button is really lame and doesn't change the info on the front panel display like it does on the Onkyo receiver. And Denon's Andriod app is also kinda lame and doesn't give you audio info.
But it makes me wonder how well >48kHz >16bit >2 channel audio actually works. Even when something can play it, how often does the software just downsample to 48kHz/16bit/2ch audio? Hell, can the 4520's media player really play 192kHz files? Yes, it
says it can and it makes sound, but did it just downsample them to 48k?
Many good questions, I know for instance the X5200 downsamples to 48khz resolution when audyssey is engaged so certainly not outside the realm of possibillity that the 4520 does this as well.
But as far I can test it and I can tell (two topics highly worthy of debate), it doesn't. The audio info setting reports 192khz when I output it from my pc, and when streaming from the oppo it reports the files native resolution, most of my music happen to be 44,1 aparantly, my mingus is 88khz something I also downloaded a 192khz track from the site linked earlier and playing that over network through my oppo reports 192khz in the denon's audio-info submenu.
The oppo of course also handles surround flac, just to test I tried the denon media player with the same surround flac's but it only outputs stereo (as I would expect) the audio info page when using the media player no longer reports bitrate, it just says "Flac" as if that's what we want to know...
It could also be just lazy programming, but then again, the network features on these avr's are pretty much only for music, and we all must agree that surround\multi channel music never went big, or is common place.
So adding support for it would be costly since there probably is no "off the shelf", when they can also in my opinion rather safely assume that their customers who do care\want multi channel audio have and or prefer using different units for playing that music that already have all these capabilities I can see why they do it. I would still keep and use my Oppo 103d rather than use the network features in the denon, it is simply better, and it can go get the files themselves instead of relying on buggy DLNA servers.
The oppo of course also handles surround flac, just to test I tried the denon media player with the same surround flac's but it only outputs stereo (as I would expect)