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Is the statement true that older receivers are better than newer receivers? For example, is a 1997 receiver worth more now than what was paid for it then? I've heard this from a few different people but I'm not exactly sure how true this is.
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Is the statement true that older receivers are better than newer receivers? For example, is a 1997 receiver worth more now than what was paid for it then? I've heard this from a few different people but I'm not exactly sure how true this is.

no, but some vintage gear is kewl, good, and worth a premium.
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I suppose it's possible 2 channel pure analog at good quality was more common, and they are simplified units... maybe. Do you think this may be your sources motivation?
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Is the statement true that older receivers are better than newer receivers? For example, is a 1997 receiver worth more now than what was paid for it then? I've heard this from a few different people but I'm not exactly sure how true this is.

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That's like asking if the world is better off without penicillin?

The point, old world amplifiers coupled with CODEC's or yesterday's amplifiers vs today amplifiers vs today's vs yesterday's hourly wages vs purchasing price. Is a 1962 color TV, better than a contemporary 60" TV that one can buy today, vs 1962 prices? Same thing.

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That's like asking if the world is better off without penicillin?
The point, old world amplifiers coupled with CODEC's or yesterday's amplifiers vs today amplifiers vs today's vs yesterday's hourly wages vs purchasing price. Is a 1962 color TV, better than a contemporary 60" TV that one can buy today, vs 1962 prices? Same thing.
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yes:)

I can't find like for like SQ (even taking into account lossless formats) of my Pioneer 59TXi in a modern receiver of sub $2k frown.gif I've been though 5 or 6 modern receivers (actually owned) - to no avail
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I'm beginning to wonder the same thing.

I have an Onkyo 804 that is approx 5 years old. It has an amp that is rated 105wpc, ALL channels driven into 8ohms, 20hz to 20khz.

Good luck finding that in a receiver less than $1200 now...
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I noticed that Onkyo hasn't changed the capacitance of their high end receivers in quite a while. My TX-DS989, purchased in August 2001, has a 44,000 uF capacitance, which is the same capacitance of the TX-NR5010 and the TX-NR5009 before that. I think they should have increased it since my receiver is only 7.1, while the other two are 9.1.

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I'm beginning to wonder the same thing.
I have an Onkyo 804 that is approx 5 years old. It has an amp that is rated 105wpc, ALL channels driven into 8ohms, 20hz to 20khz.
Good luck finding that in a receiver less than $1200 now...

Denon AVR 3312 rated 105+ x 7, 8 ohms 20hz - 20khz and can easily be found well under $1200.

The 50lb TX-SR805 is the one that really had a beefy power supply and amp section, much more so than your 804.

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I'm very happy with the latest Marantz offering in the form of the SR5007 and when coupled to our speakers, have no problem dealing with reference levels. The point, based on my personal experience, based on today's CODEC's, I'd say today's AVR's are just as good, if not better than yesterday's AVR's.
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I have no idea other than to compare my 15 or so year old Yamaha RX-v990 5.1 receiver to my recently acquired Marantz PM8004. I have not A/B'd them but upstairs I love the Marantz in my 2 channel system (NHT SuperZeros, Marantz CD6004, Samsung N150P netbook for streaming IR) and the Yamaha as a 2 channel receiver downstairs (Celestion DL-8's, Onkyo CS5VL, Technic SL-QL1). They both sound great to me.

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