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Ralph Potts's Avatar Ralph Potts 12:50 PM 03-08-2013
Greetings,

Are there any irule users controlling their 8801's via IP? I am considering the move to the Marantz and want to ensure that thorough remote commands will allow full control using the irule universal remote interface.

I took a look at the Marantz IP codes for the Marantz and didn't see a mute toggle, or Info/Display option.

Thanks in advance.


Regards,

mookie b's Avatar mookie b 12:54 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by Geronimo.USMC View Post

Please report it to marantz. I get the same HDMI handshake issues, & also reported it to them. When I did, they responded that no one else has reported the issue......

I reported it and they said the same thing. Randomly, I get no audio on lossless codecs. Although completely unplugging the oppo one time and rep lugging it seemed to lower the times it's happened.

If it happens now, I just use the remote to change inputs and when I go back the audio is fine.
ChopShop1's Avatar ChopShop1 01:06 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post


I believe the AV8801 has the proper voltages.
It is normal for XLR to have 6 DB more gain which may or may not be attenuated by the amplifier.
The Sunfire had the same gain for RCA and XLR.

However, the Outlaw 7500 has 28 DB gain on RCA (approx. the THX standard) and 34 DB Gain on the XLR.
The XLR is not a problem with the Outlaw. There is no distortion.

The Emotiva's have start with a high gain of 32 DB.
I found this post on the Emotiva forum which seems to indicate that the XLR add 6 more for a total gain of 38 DB.
That is 10 DB higher than the THX standard.

I do not know much about attenuators but they may be in order.

- Rich

Rich, how are you enjoying the Outlaw??
Selden Ball's Avatar Selden Ball 01:33 PM 03-08-2013
hifiaudio2,

In case it might somehow be related to the bitrate, have you tried disabling "deep color" in your Oppo? It's not used by any video source material available to consumers, so it causes an unnecessary increase in bitrate.
Dave Vaughn's Avatar Dave Vaughn 02:04 PM 03-08-2013
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Another annoying HDMI handshake issue with the OPPO and Marantz last night. I tried to get it to work without turning everything off and unplugging by swapping to LPCM and back in the OPPO, changing inputs on the Maratz away from and back to Blu Ray, and just disconnecting and reconnecting all HDMI cables. Nothing worked until I turned off and unplugged / re plugged both the Oppo and Marantz. VERY annoying. Never happened once in almost two years of owning the Integra.

I have a 103 and 95 and haven't had one handshake issue in the 4 months I've been using the Marantz/Oppo combo.
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 02:13 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

hifiaudio2,

In case it might somehow be related to the bitrate, have you tried disabling "deep color" in your Oppo? It's not used by any video source material available to consumers, so it causes an unnecessary increase in bitrate.

Two weeks ago I would have thought this could be a possible cause, but I disabled that recently, and before this last round of issues.
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 02:14 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

Are there any irule users controlling their 8801's via IP? I am considering the move to the Marantz and want to ensure that thorough remote commands will allow full control using the irule universal remote interface.

I took a look at the Marantz IP codes for the Marantz and didn't see a mute toggle, or Info/Display option.

Thanks in advance.


Regards,

I dont know about iRule.... but IP control of the Marantz works well with Roomie remote. Mute toggle in on there by default and works. I will have to look at how the info/display button works.
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 02:15 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by mookie b View Post

I reported it and they said the same thing. Randomly, I get no audio on lossless codecs. Although completely unplugging the oppo one time and rep lugging it seemed to lower the times it's happened.

If it happens now, I just use the remote to change inputs and when I go back the audio is fine.

What number or service center are you guys reporting it to?
Geronimo.USMC's Avatar Geronimo.USMC 02:25 PM 03-08-2013
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What number or service center are you guys reporting it to?
Marantz America, LLC.

100 Corporate DriveMahwah, N.J. 07430-2041

General Office hours:

8:30 AM to 5:30 PM ET, M-FTel. 201-762-6500Fax. 201-762-6670

Parts Support hours:

9:00 AM to 5:00 PM ET, M-FTel: 201-762-6392

Tech & Operational Support hours:

9:00 AM to 5:00 PM ET, M-FTel. 201-762-6666Fax. 201-762-6687 Parts

I put it in "bold"
mookie b's Avatar mookie b 02:26 PM 03-08-2013
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What number or service center are you guys reporting it to?

I went through their website and then started an email chain from there.
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 02:38 PM 03-08-2013
lol -- well I tried to call and report.... but their outgoing message says they are closed early today due to the inclement weather in the Northeast. Ill try next week.
Geronimo.USMC's Avatar Geronimo.USMC 02:52 PM 03-08-2013
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I went through their website and then started an email chain from there.
Try calling. They are good about picking up the phone.
Geronimo.USMC's Avatar Geronimo.USMC 02:53 PM 03-08-2013
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lol -- well I tried to call and report.... but their outgoing message says they are closed early today due to the inclement weather in the Northeast. Ill try next week.
Awesome. Thanks.
exm's Avatar exm 03:16 PM 03-08-2013
Just to return to my topic from earlier.... My subs are -10Db compared to other channels (L/R/Both). Someone said that +/-10Db is normal but is that really try? I manually adjusted them. Am I the only one? What did you guys do?
hifiaudio2's Avatar hifiaudio2 03:35 PM 03-08-2013
I find that Audyssey sets subs to what it thinks measures flat.. but this sounds unnatural to our ears. In fact, in my measurements (with XTZ), I find that Audyssey can often improve the frequency response curve in the bass, while making modal ringing worse... or even creating a ringing problem that did not exist before. I frequently find myself wanting more bass once Audyssey is done. I got Audyssey pro so I can dial back in some bass to the Audyssey target curve, and am still in the process of messing with that. I plan to get a Xilica processor and EQ my subs manually and see how well I can dial that in.

So, as far as your -10 being "normal" -- yeah, for Audyssey, thats not uncommon. If you simply want it to not be removing that much in the processor, you can dial back the gain on the subs before running it...but its the same effect.

In any case, make sure you have as much bass trapping as you can afford / fit in your room.
beastaudio's Avatar beastaudio 03:47 PM 03-08-2013
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Just to return to my topic from earlier.... My subs are -10Db compared to other channels (L/R/Both). Someone said that +/-10Db is normal but is that really try? I manually adjusted them. Am I the only one? What did you guys do?

I always go back and level match, or usually even boost the sub level about +3dB over the rest of the speakers. The human ear is less sensitive the further down the frequency spectrum you go, so for many of us, audyssey and EQ is able to compensate for this, by instead of having a dead flat frequency response, more of a rising line to the bottom of your sub system's capability. Dynamic EQ does similar with the highs and lows at decreased volumes, to accentuate the ends of the FR spectrum so we perceive a more "full" sound
Kal Rubinson's Avatar Kal Rubinson 04:19 PM 03-08-2013
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What OPPO do you have? I have a 93 connected and have never had a handshake problem to the Marantz which outputs to my LG TV. SJ

 

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have a 93 as well and no issues yet, getting a 105 soon, and my fingers are crossed that i do not get any problems

No issues with the 103 and the Marantz here.


jdsmoothie's Avatar jdsmoothie 04:21 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by exm View Post

Just to return to my topic from earlier.... My subs are -10Db compared to other channels (L/R/Both). Someone said that +/-10Db is normal but is that really try? I manually adjusted them. Am I the only one? What did you guys do?

Yup, very normal. Many generally must dial back the sub to about 8-9 o'clock in fact before all is said and done.. Ideally you're looking for a final setting of between -3db and 0db so the signal to the sub is strong enough to power it on when in AUTO mode as well as still giving you some adjustment room either way with the remote.
yellowbalt's Avatar yellowbalt 04:33 PM 03-08-2013
Hi Guys,
Can anyone PM me regarding good deal to be delivered in NJ? I ran out of patience waiting for XMC-1 since December. My sr-7002 takes $300 for repair. I might as well add that money for new technology.

Thanks appreciate it.
exm's Avatar exm 05:02 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yup, very normal. Many generally must dial back the sub to about 8-9 o'clock in fact before all is said and done.. Ideally you're looking for a final setting of between -3db and 0db so the signal to the sub is strong enough to power it on when in AUTO mode as well as still giving you some adjustment room either way with the remote.

Interesting... I added +10Db for now...
RichB's Avatar RichB 05:12 PM 03-08-2013
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Well, won't be an issue I am going to deal with at the moment as the Sunfire 7401 should be here next week smile.gif woot woot!! XLR balanced out is .95Vrms and unbalanced is 1.9Vrms. Anyone else running sunfire with the 8801?

My previous amp was the Sunfire 7400 which had the same gain over XLR and RCA.
There were no issues funning Audyssey.

- Rich
SJHT's Avatar SJHT 05:16 PM 03-08-2013
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have a 93 as well and no issues yet, getting a 105 soon, and my fingers are crossed that i do not get any problems
I have the 105 in another room. Great player! SJ
RichB's Avatar RichB 05:34 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by ChopShop1 View Post

Rich, how are you enjoying the Outlaw??

I love the Outlaw 7500.
It is a great amp that has taken complete control of my Revel Salons.
The amp is quiet, extremely dynamic, and maintains its composure when driven loud.
I played Nora Jones "All a Dream", loud.
The bass was amazing. I have a bookcase screwed to the wall and a Nautilus decoration that walked off the shelf and shattered.

I prefer the Outlaw 7500 to my Sunfire 7400. It has better bass, dynamics, and detail.
I am thinking about getting the 7700 and bi-amping to remove any possibility of clipping the Tweeters.
This works because the Outlaw amps are independently powered and the supply is large enough to supply all amps. So, they perform similar to mono-blocks.

Then again, there is the 7900..
I would like to know if it sounds any better than its smaller siblings.
If not, then the 7700 would be all I ever need.

- Rich
RichB's Avatar RichB 05:36 PM 03-08-2013
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I have the 105 in another room. Great player! SJ

I have been using the 105 with the AV8801 for over a month with no handshake issues.

- Rich
cglin222's Avatar cglin222 07:07 PM 03-08-2013
Hi
I think it may have been brought up before, but I still can't figure out

I have oppo 105 directly connect to my tv using hdmi 1 and hdmi 2 to my av8801, and option for split A/V is set for my blu-ray viewing
Also have xlr from 105 to av8801, I set the av8801 cd to use xlr

but in Oppo, when I follow the manual to set for playing SACD

second audio off
hdmi audio off
sacd output PCM
HDCD decoding on

It does not play any music, no sounds, only when I switched hdmi audio to anything but off then it sounds, and I think it's playing via hdmi and not my oppo xlr
How would I set this up, I can't figure it up

Thanks for the help
be83663's Avatar be83663 07:13 PM 03-08-2013
Does Anyone Know if playing in a Pure Mode, the XT32 Mode is being used or not?
I am sure somewhere in this forum, it must have been discussed more than once, but I did not look for it.
I would appreciate for any answers.
Thanks.
Ken.
cglin222's Avatar cglin222 07:16 PM 03-08-2013
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Hi
I think it may have been brought up before, but I still can't figure out

I have oppo 105 directly connect to my tv using hdmi 1 and hdmi 2 to my av8801, and option for split A/V is set for my blu-ray viewing
Also have xlr from 105 to av8801, I set the av8801 cd to use xlr

but in Oppo, when I follow the manual to set for playing SACD

second audio off
hdmi audio off
sacd output PCM
HDCD decoding on

It does not play any music, no sounds, only when I switched hdmi audio to anything but off then it sounds, and I think it's playing via hdmi and not my oppo xlr
How would I set this up, I can't figure it up

Thanks for the help

Ok stuipd me, was too focus on setting up the things that I didn't now switch input to CD... duh...
Please forget my newbie mistakes...
dahlgren's Avatar dahlgren 07:51 PM 03-08-2013
Has anyone ever heard the Roger Russell IDS-25 speakers? http://www.roger-russell.com/ids/ids.htm
Dead flat response between 20Hz and 18kHz. http://www.stereophile.com/rmaf2006/102106ids/index.html

http://www.roger-russell.com/ids/reviews.htm
Kal Rubinson's Avatar Kal Rubinson 09:47 PM 03-08-2013
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Originally Posted by be83663 View Post

Does Anyone Know if playing in a Pure Mode, the XT32 Mode is being used or not?
I am sure somewhere in this forum, it must have been discussed more than once, but I did not look for it.
I would appreciate for any answers.
Thanks.
Ken.

It is bypassed in Direct and Pure Direct modes.


cglin222's Avatar cglin222 01:27 AM 03-09-2013
I tried to select General/Check for Update, and it's stuck there for so long...
Not sure what is wrong..

I was able to connect the internet, no issue there, not sure why it just keep stuck at "Connecting to server..."

Thanks
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