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And you selected heights in the Marantz setup I'm assuming? I'm hearing if Audyssey is engaged it converts the audio to PCM as it cannot except DSD.
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And you selected heights in the Marantz setup I'm assuming? I'm hearing if Audyssey is engaged it converts the audio to PCM as it cannot except DSD.

Yeah I did nothings coming out know I'm any speakers

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Yeah I did nothings coming out know I'm any speakers



You assigned the proper input for your player under input assign, be it HMDI or however you have it connected? What about trying the radio on the 8801, I'd see if you have sound coming out of there, then you could eliminate it's the 8801. I'd go through the setup again. There's a lot of things it could be, and I know your competent, I've seen your posts before.
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Ok I figured one bit its my DVDO DUO. I disconnected the hdmi cable from the duo and ran it in directly to the Marantz. But still the heights are not showing. How do you select pllz?

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Ok I figured one bit its my DVDO DUO. I disconnected the hdmi cable from the duo and ran it in directly to the Marantz. But still the heights are not showing. How do you select pllz?



On your Marantz remote hold down for a couple seconds either the red movie button or the green music button and the different audio modes will come up on your OSD. I never had heights so I'm not sure how they work, one of the guys that use them might be able to tell you more. I'm sure it's just a setting or mode.
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On your Marantz remote hold down for a couple seconds either the red movie button or the green music button and the different audio modes will come up on your OSD. I never had heights so I'm not sure how they work, one of the guys that use them might be able to tell you more. I'm sure it's just a setting or mode.

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Does anyone know what is the refrence volume on the Marantz is? I also want to know if there is any Dvdo duo owners who are connecting there blu ray player to the Duo and running audio just to the Marantz? Im finding the Duo is incompatible in the audio side regarding the Marantz. Its only allowing 2 ch PCM to the Marantz.

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Mine seems to track pretty well with the speakers level matched at 75dB using the pink noise. After Aud runs, they usually are around 72dB and I bump them up to 75 dB.

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Mine seems to track pretty well with the speakers level matched at 75dB using the pink noise. After Aud runs, they usually are around 72dB and I bump them up to 75 dB.

So 75db on the volume control on the Marantz is the refrence level?

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No no. Small suggestion, go into the Audio menu and change the volume readoff from absolute (0-100) to reference (-85dB to 0.0 or however it is labeled). That is how 9/10 guys on here are stating volume levels and is a good way to know how you are listening compared to others. The absolute scale is just what comes stock on the 8801. Once changed, setting the receiver at 0.0 would be "around" reference level. I have gotten in many a tiff with folks on here defining what "reference" is but as a general understanding, reference for movie watching is an average of around 85dB with 105dB peaks from your speakers, and 115dB peaks from your subs. Running Audyssey on the 8801 and then putting the unit at 0.0 usually equals this exact scenario, thus "reference" as most people understand it.
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No no. Small suggestion, go into the Audio menu and change the volume readoff from absolute (0-100) to reference (-85dB to 0.0 or however it is labeled). That is how 9/10 guys on here are stating volume levels and is a good way to know how you are listening compared to others. The absolute scale is just what comes stock on the 8801. Once changed, setting the receiver at 0.0 would be "around" reference level. I have gotten in many a tiff with folks on here defining what "reference" is but as a general understanding, reference for movie watching is an average of around 85dB with 105dB peaks from your speakers, and 115dB peaks from your subs. Running Audyssey on the 8801 and then putting the unit at 0.0 usually equals this exact scenario, thus "reference" as most people understand it.

Thanks for that Im doing audyssey at the moment( I haven't changed anything ) will I have to redo audyssey again if I change the volume read off?

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Joe you have the Dvdo duo have you plugged in your players and gone out solely audio out to the Marantz?

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Doesn't Audyssey set reference at 0 and 105db at that volume? Or am I misinterpreting things?
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No no. Small suggestion, go into the Audio menu and change the volume readoff from absolute (0-100) to reference (-85dB to 0.0 or however it is labeled). That is how 9/10 guys on here are stating volume levels and is a good way to know how you are listening compared to others. The absolute scale is just what comes stock on the 8801. Once changed, setting the receiver at 0.0 would be "around" reference level. I have gotten in many a tiff with folks on here defining what "reference" is but as a general understanding, reference for movie watching is an average of around 85dB with 105dB peaks from your speakers, and 115dB peaks from your subs. Running Audyssey on the 8801 and then putting the unit at 0.0 usually equals this exact scenario, thus "reference" as most people understand it.

Thanks for that Im doing audyssey at the moment( I haven't changed anything ) will I have to redo audyssey again if I change the volume read off?

No. It's just telling the 8801 to display its volume level in a different way and has no effect on Audyssey's calibration.

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Does audyssey go to its own volume? When I was doing audyssey with the DENON it will always go to 0.0.

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The audyssey blip test you should not touch the volume control. On the Denon it went to 0.0 which is what we are referring to by changing the volume readout. JoeRod appears to still use the same volume scale you currently have it set on, but like I said, 9/10 guys use the other option. It won't change any other settings on the 8801 by changing the volume readout.

Comfy, yes with the readout I use, and am suggesting, at 0.0 your speakers SHOULD be only doing 105dB peaks. The average at this level for dialogue is usually around 80-85dB depending on the material.

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The audyssey blip test you should not touch the volume control. On the Denon it went to 0.0 which is what we are referring to by changing the volume readout. JoeRod appears to still use the same volume scale you currently have it set on, but like I said, 9/10 guys use the other option. It won't change any other settings on the 8801 by changing the volume readout.

Comfy, yes with the readout I use, and am suggesting, at 0.0 your speakers SHOULD be only doing 105dB peaks. The average at this level for dialogue is usually around 80-85dB depending on the material.

Of course I will never touch the volume but I was curious to find out what level on the Marantz Audyssey sets it readings at.

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Joe you have the Dvdo duo have you plugged in your players and gone out solely audio out to the Marantz?

I do lately. I like sending DirecTV through it though because it makes life much easier adjusting. Blu ray just audio goes into the 8801. The 103's other HDMI out goes into my Darblet then the Sony 1000.

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The audyssey blip test you should not touch the volume control. On the Denon it went to 0.0 which is what we are referring to by changing the volume readout. JoeRod appears to still use the same volume scale you currently have it set on, but like I said, 9/10 guys use the other option. It won't change any other settings on the 8801 by changing the volume readout.

Comfy, yes with the readout I use, and am suggesting, at 0.0 your speakers SHOULD be only doing 105dB peaks. The average at this level for dialogue is usually around 80-85dB depending on the material.



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Also oops I sometimes listen above 0 to around +4 am I the only one? My Sunfire never clips and I only listen that loud for a song.
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Of course I will never touch the volume but I was curious to find out what level on the Marantz Audyssey sets it readings at.

Same as Denon. The pink noise tone after audyssey runs is a -25dBfs signal and the blip test is in fact at 0.0.

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I do lately. I like sending DirecTV through it though because it makes life much easier adjusting. Blu ray just audio goes into the 8801. The 103's other HDMI out goes into my Darblet then the Sony 1000.

With the audio for blu ray are you getting DTS HD Ma though the duo cause I was only getting PCM 2.0 and my players bitstream. When I removed the Duo out ofbthe gain everything was fine. Was I meant to set something in the duo?

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Also oops I sometimes listen above 0 to around +4 am I the only one? My Sunfire never clips and I only listen that loud for a song.

Nope smile.gif I can't hang at +4 on a LOT of material and for movies that is way too loud for me. I never get above 0.0 and rarely enough even go that far.

But on Music? PSSHH I have knocked it up to +10 on a couple of tracks and it is borderline insane. My usual volume when I want to really rock the system is -10 to 0 for a little while. I can't handle that loud for extended sessions though still.

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Nope smile.gif I can't hang at +4 on a LOT of material and for movies that is way too loud for me. I never get above 0.0 and rarely enough even go that far.

But on Music? PSSHH I have knocked it up to +10 on a couple of tracks and it is borderline insane. My usual volume when I want to really rock the system is -10 to 0 for a little while. I can't handle that loud for extended sessions though still.



I didn't mention that I don't do movies above -8 or so and that's too loud during most action scenes. But it is fun to scare the crap out of unsuspecting people, mainly my gf biggrin.gif so yes only above 0 for music.
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I have the 8801 and 105 and I only use the 105 balanced outs to the 8801 for analog, all else for multi/ch I use hdmi and prefer it for many reasons the strongest of those being Audyssey for multi ch sacd sent to the 8801 via Bitstream from the 105 which I have set to DSD ( try it and hear why) As for the analog outs assign them to the "CD" input ( speaking xlr here) you are using the rca outs you can configure them on the Bluray input or any other you choose as you can set that particular input to digital or analog and from there use the movie mode button on the remote by holding it down to scroll through the modes until it says multi ch input.

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1.) Oppo 105 xlr or rca to the Cd input for stereo playback of cd's usb and 2/ch sacd I leave this one in Pure direct as the 8801 remembers the settings and all I need do is hit CD on the remote.

2.) Hdmi 2 from the 105 set to bitsream and DSD for the Audio settings while using the the split a/v mode to the 8801's bluray input, here you will still look for multi/ch on the display using the movie button as described above for DSD 5.1 tracks you can still select stereo or dpl II dts neo etc.. and also pure direct for multi ch. This will also cover your movies as the Dolby True HD or DTS Master HD logos light up . You can then use the hdmi 1 from the 105 direct to your display .

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I don't send Blu ray (audio or video) through the Duo. Only TV and video game systems. I have an Oppo 103 so Audio goes straight to the 8801 and video straight to the projector (actually Darblet first).
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Thanks, but I am curious to hear the multi-channel analog outs.

Having come from an 95 with the full gravitas of the sabre dac's for multi/ch analog biggrin.gif trust me when I say set the 105 ( still reigns for 2/ch via xlr to the 8801) to bitstream for hdmi audio and sacd to DSD, get your audyssey right and about 300 hrs on both units and then let the 8801 show you why its the top dog pre/pro wink.gif
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Having come from an 95 with the full gravitas of the sabre dac's for multi/ch analog biggrin.gif trust me when I say set the 105 ( still reigns for 2/ch via xlr to the 8801) to bitstream for hdmi audio and sacd to DSD, get your audyssey right and about 300 hrs on both units and then let the 8801 show you why its the top dog pre/pro wink.gif

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