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Hey there, mi amigo!!smile.gif

So far I have been VERY happy with the 8801! I've had it for close to 3 months now and have not had a single issue with the 12v triggers.smile.gif

Muchas gracias, amigo.

That's good to know. Triggers are about as basic a feature as you can get. Glad to hear they're all firing.biggrin.gif Any other thoughts pros/cons you have on the 8801?

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Muchas gracias, amigo.

That's good to know. Triggers are about as basic a feature as you can get. Glad to hear they're all firing.biggrin.gif Any other thoughts pros/cons you have on the 8801?

Wabo I don't see any Cons I'm very impressed with the unit. The pros is we get the full version of XT32, which made a big difference.

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Have a think about Wabo who knows you might end up getting one.

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Muchas gracias, amigo.

That's good to know. Triggers are about as basic a feature as you can get. Glad to hear they're all firing.biggrin.gif Any other thoughts pros/cons you have on the 8801?

Like Frank said, this is a fantastic pre/pro! I really haven't seen any negatives with this unit. It is quite a difference from the AVP, but mainly differences with the way the menus are. This one is very straight forward, and is actually easier to navigate through. There are some things that the AVP has that this one doesn't, like a separate menu for 2 channel. But on a positive note, this one does allow for separate sub levels for 2 channel listening like the AVP. So for movies it stays one way and for 2 channel you can have it set another.

The menu system on this one has less sub menus compared to the AVP. With the Denon one can literally get lost with all the sub menus it has. So in a way I see this as a plus, as it's so much easier to be up and running, and won't take the months of learning like the AVP required.

The 8801 doesn't allow channel levels to be adjusted on the fly like the AVP. So if you need to raise the center channel, you have to go into the menu. Thankfully this is something that is usually only required once and then left alone. So I haven't found it to be a major omission. Sound quality wise, this pre/pro delivers the goods with both movies and music.smile.gif And it's a great match for Martin Logans! The sound is neutral like the AVP, so it doesn't sound bright.

This was one of my primary concerns, being that this has no THX processing modes. On the AVP I always left THX Ultra 2 on for movies and HD satellite. But with Audyssey XT32 engaged along with dynamic EQ, this Marantz sounds sweet! Dynamic and powerful, yet easy on the ears.smile.gif

The fit and finish of this pre/pro is first rate also! And in no way has a cheap feel or look. And like the AVP, this one is also made in Japan.smile.gif
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Like Frank said, this is a fantastic pre/pro! I really haven't seen any negatives with this unit. It is quite a difference from the AVP, but mainly differences with the way the menus are. This one is very straight forward, and is actually easier to navigate through. There are some things that the AVP has that this one doesn't, like a separate menu for 2 channel. But on a positive note, this one does allow for separate sub levels for 2 channel listening like the AVP. So for movies it stays one way and for 2 channel you can have it set another.

The menu system on this one has less sub menus compared to the AVP. With the Denon one can literally get lost with all the sub menus it has. So in a way I see this as a plus, as it's so much easier to be up and running, and won't take the months of learning like the AVP required.

The 8801 doesn't allow channel levels to be adjusted on the fly like the AVP. So if you need to raise the center channel, you have to go into the menu. Thankfully this is something that is usually only required once and then left alone. So I haven't found it to be a major omission. Sound quality wise, this pre/pro delivers the goods with both movies and music.smile.gif And it's a great match for Martin Logans! The sound is neutral like the AVP, so it doesn't sound bright.

This was one of my primary concerns, being that this has no THX processing modes. On the AVP I always left THX Ultra 2 on for movies and HD satellite. But with Audyssey XT32 engaged along with dynamic EQ, this Marantz sounds sweet! Dynamic and powerful, yet easy on the ears.smile.gif

The fit and finish of this pre/pro is first rate also! And in no way has a cheap feel or look. And like the AVP, this one is also made in Japan.smile.gif



Hi, if you have an iPhone or iPad you can use the deremote app to adjust many settings, including Audyssey and channel levels on the fly, without opening up the main menu. I'm sure there is something for android also, just not the deremote.
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Hi, if you have an iPhone or iPad you can use the deremote app to adjust many settings, including Audyssey and channel levels on the fly, without opening up the main menu. I'm sure there is something for android also, just not the deremote.

That's a good App

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That's a good App



Yeah it is. I use it everyday and it's nice because you don't have to turn your panel on. Like many apps sometimes you have to close it and reopen it to get it to work, but basically no issues for me.
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How do you use airplay on the marantz?

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How do you use airplay on the marantz?

Lower right corner, this is a pic I found on the net.


On your idevice in your music there's an arrow, click on it and it should list the Marantz AV8801 and your device, just click on the 8801. It should also work in iTunes on your PC. Arrow is up the top left on iTunes.
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There seems to be some inconsistent performance when trying to use JRiver via dlna.
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Wabo I don't see any Cons I'm very impressed with the unit. The pros is we get the full version of XT32, which made a big difference.

Thanks, Franin. What I like to hear.
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JR River dlna or JR river from the computer?
Fairly new with the 8801 but JRiver from the computer appears to work well.
I am having some issues with the 8801 and overall network compatibility via the media server and using JRiver dlna.
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Lower right corner, this is a pic I found on the net.


On your idevice in your music there's an arrow, click on it and it should list the Marantz AV8801 and your device, just click on the 8801. It should also work in iTunes on your PC.

That's awesome thank you.

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I hope someone can answer this question and help me. I had to get rid of my Duo due to incompatibility with the Marantz but I need to purchase the Lumagen Mini. I dont want to purchase if it causes lip sync issues.

I need to go Components to Marantz to Lumagen Mini to JVC Projector.

Is anyone going this way

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That's awesome thank you.



Your welcome, it's a great feature smile.gif
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Like Frank said, this is a fantastic pre/pro! I really haven't seen any negatives with this unit. It is quite a difference from the AVP, but mainly differences with the way the menus are. This one is very straight forward, and is actually easier to navigate through. There are some things that the AVP has that this one doesn't, like a separate menu for 2 channel. But on a positive note, this one does allow for separate sub levels for 2 channel listening like the AVP. So for movies it stays one way and for 2 channel you can have it set another.

The menu system on this one has less sub menus compared to the AVP. With the Denon one can literally get lost with all the sub menus it has. So in a way I see this as a plus, as it's so much easier to be up and running, and won't take the months of learning like the AVP required.

The 8801 doesn't allow channel levels to be adjusted on the fly like the AVP. So if you need to raise the center channel, you have to go into the menu. Thankfully this is something that is usually only required once and then left alone. So I haven't found it to be a major omission. Sound quality wise, this pre/pro delivers the goods with both movies and music.smile.gif And it's a great match for Martin Logans! The sound is neutral like the AVP, so it doesn't sound bright.

This was one of my primary concerns, being that this has no THX processing modes. On the AVP I always left THX Ultra 2 on for movies and HD satellite. But with Audyssey XT32 engaged along with dynamic EQ, this Marantz sounds sweet! Dynamic and powerful, yet easy on the ears.smile.gif

The fit and finish of this pre/pro is first rate also! And in no way has a cheap feel or look. And like the AVP, this one is also made in Japan.smile.gif

If it's good enough to make the Franin & ohyeah cut, then it's like Marsellus Wallace sending The Wolf. That's all you had to say.biggrin.gif

I had heard the menu is much more streamlined. Keep in mind it's been a good 5 years since I've played with another pre/pro. I might be all thumbs for awhile.

I just assumed it had THX. Not that this is a deal breaker. Would have been a nice addition though.

Glad to hear it matches so well with our MLs. I appreciate the fact it's made in Japan and not China or Malaysia. Lots to think about, amigo.smile.gif

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THX is a fancy marketing gimmick for the most part. The fact is the "THX" people just put their stamp of approval on the unit, and then Onkyo can show it as "better" than other AVR and pre's. There quite honestly is nothing that makes it any better to begin with. You get a THX mode... which some people like, and it tells you the 80hz crossover is THX spec when you select it. Well, both of these things can still be accomplished without it in the first place.

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THX is a fancy marketing gimmick for the most part. The fact is the "THX" people just put their stamp of approval on the unit, and then Onkyo can show it as "better" than other AVR and pre's. There quite honestly is nothing that makes it any better to begin with. You get a THX mode... which some people like, and it tells you the 80hz crossover is THX spec when you select it. Well, both of these things can still be accomplished without it in the first place.



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Like I said. Not a deal breaker.

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The 8801 doesn't allow channel levels to be adjusted on the fly like the AVP. So if you need to raise the center channel, you have to go into the menu. Thankfully this is something that is usually only required once and then left alone. So I haven't found it to be a major omission.

There are discrete IR remote codes available to adjust individual channel volume.
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In the new July issue of Stereophile, Kalman Rubinson writes another fine article where he discusses Oppo's recently added feature (in beta) to the BDP-103 and 105 that allows them to play downloaded DSD files through USB connected hard drives and SMB/CIFS network access.

He then writes about the DeRemote app that allows one to control the AV8801 from any iOS device like an iPad or iPhone. In that section he also gives his thoughts on the subject that I brought to the attention of this thread in this post. While I initially was disappointed to learn that the 8801 down-samples high-resolution PCM to 48kHz/24 bits, I've come to the same conclusion that Kal makes in that the MultEQ XT32 room correction benefits outweigh the marginal effects of the increase in resolution.

I've contacted both Audyssey and Marantz on this issue. Since I've been very busy lately, I have not followed up with their responses on this thread but I will try to do so by this weekend.

BTW, good work Kal!
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In the new July issue of Stereophile, Kalman Rubinson writes another fine article where he discusses Oppo's recently added feature (in beta) to the BDP-103 and 105 that allows them to play downloaded DSD files through USB connected hard drives and SMB/CIFS network access.

He then writes about the DeRemote app that allows one to control the AV8801 from any iOS device like an iPad or iPhone. In that section he also gives his thoughts on the subject that I brought to the attention of this thread in this post. While I initially was disappointed to learn that the 8801 down-samples high-resolution PCM to 48kHz/24 bits, I've come to the same conclusion that Kal makes in that the MultEQ XT32 room correction benefits outweigh the marginal effects of the increase in resolution.

I've contacted both Audyssey and Marantz on this issue. Since I've been very busy lately, I have not followed up with their responses on this thread but I will try to do so by this weekend.

BTW, good work Kal!

I've pondered on this lately and wonder if that's one of the reasons the "Bypass FR/FL" option exist as I use this option from time to time ( mostly) when playing multi ch sacd's .
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I've pondered on this lately and wonder if that's one of the reasons the "Bypass FR/FL" option exist as I use this option from time to time ( mostly) when playing multi ch sacd's .

I hadn't thought of that.  I had thought the "Bypass FR/FL" option existed only for me as it lets me enjoy a pair of speakers in for review without doing a full run of Audyssey. biggrin.gif


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Now that would indeed make it a true reviewers pre/pro! you must dream of gear like this biggrin.gif

It is one of the reasons I bought it.  Also I recently bought a 5.1channel analog preamp for my other system so that I could have more options.


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It is one of the reasons I bought it.  Also I recently bought a 5.1channel analog preamp for my other system so that I could have more options.
Which 5.1 preamp? Assume this is for your main system (B&W)?

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Sweet! Did you consider the SP3 for this role? What is your source?

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Sweet! Did you consider the SP3 for this role? What is your source?

No.  I needed multiple MCH inputs.  Multiple MCH sources including the 3xMytek setup.


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