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Well my amp is still at the service shop 2 weeks no word, called Marantz Canada who was going to call them and get back with me still waiting for that call. Called my dealer on Saturday and talked to the owner a new amp is on the way will have it on Friday. Hats off to Carlo, Jason and Claude at Stereo Plus and Design in Ottawa, Canada. They are Stand up guys who really care about their customers.

rgds,

Dave
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Guys I ran my first audyssey calibration today and my results are front l/r/c -5 , subwoofer -3 and now when i play movies i need to put volume around 65 to get good sound and my sub completely went flat and don't hear any much base...i tried multiple movies...not sure if there is issue with my microphone(which has crack on topside of base) please advise....
before calibration i felt using 55 was too loud and now after calibration 65 still now loud....
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Guys I ran my first audyssey calibration today and my results are front l/r/c -5 , subwoofer -3 and now when i play movies i need to put volume around 65 to get good sound and my sub completely went flat and don't hear any much base...i tried multiple movies...not sure if there is issue with my microphone(which has crack on topside of base) please advise....
before calibration i felt using 55 was too loud and now after calibration 65 still now loud....
Try bumping the sub up by 5-6 db! and post back
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A volume control setting of 65 after calibrating is typical: that's 15dB below reference. Most people find reference (80) much too loud in a home environment.

After calibration, Marantz volume control settings measure in dB relative to the movie standard reference. They do not specify a fraction of the maximum possible output of a receiver or amp. If you want, you can change the volume readout scale so it shows 0 at reference and -15 at normal listening levels. See page 44 of the 8801's owner's manual.
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Guys I ran my first audyssey calibration today and my results are front l/r/c -5 , subwoofer -3 and now when i play movies i need to put volume around 65 to get good sound and my sub completely went flat and don't hear any much base...i tried multiple movies...not sure if there is issue with my microphone(which has crack on topside of base) please advise....
before calibration i felt using 55 was too loud and now after calibration 65 still now loud....
See if this info from the Audyssey FAQ helps:

f)5. Since I ran Audyssey everything sounds great - but where has my bass gone?


f)4. If I want to run my subs a little 'hot' where should I make the changes?
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kbarnes701, Selden Ball and audiofan1 thanks for your advise..i think there is nothing wrong with settings and audyssey and it is me trying to get used to more tighter bass than old boomy sounds...i will try to listen more but i should say my music came to life awesome sounds and i get goosebumps listing to music..never had this awesome experience....
One another question how do i connect buttkicker to a v8801..use y splitter and connect to sw1(currently used for supercube1) or use sw2 and do i need to rerun audssey after connecting buttkicker..
buttkicker model http://www.thebuttkicker.com/wireless-kit
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kbarnes701, Selden Ball and audiofan1 thanks for your advise..i think there is nothing wrong with settings and audyssey and it is me trying to get used to more tighter bass than old boomy sounds...i will try to listen more but i should say my music came to life awesome sounds and i get goosebumps listing to music..never had this awesome experience....
One another question how do i connect buttkicker to a v8801..use y splitter and connect to sw1(currently used for supercube1) or use sw2 and do i need to rerun audssey after connecting buttkicker..
buttkicker model http://www.thebuttkicker.com/wireless-kit
Connect the buttkicker to either SW output - makes no difference. No need to run Audyssey again - the Audyssey mic can't hear a buttkicker!

EDIT: actually that may not be quite right. If you connect the BK to Sub 2, you will need to tell the AVR that you now have two 'subwoofers' and a change of speaker automatically triggers an Audyssey cal bu turning Audyssey off. You have to re-run it to get the system recalibrated. If you use a Y-cord off Sub 1 then you will not need to re-run Audyssey as the AVR won't know you have changed anything.
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Kbarnes701, thanks for advise...i had all the equipment for so many years and never thought they were so good until i added av8801 to my HT...It is completely different level....I wish i realized this before(almost from past 3-4years)..o well late in game but enjoying ever bit of it now.....awesome music and movie sounds....
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hello av8801 users,
did anyone of you get muffled sound from movies recently?
a few movies in my collection that sounded ok in the past are completely muffled now...
others are fine so it probably only affects one audio format, and maybe it's my source too (popcorn a-410)
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hello av8801 users,
did anyone of you get muffled sound from movies recently?
a few movies in my collection that sounded ok in the past are completely muffled now...
others are fine so it probably only affects one audio format, and maybe it's my source too (popcorn a-410)

Did you confirm with a different source? and is it all channels?
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Did you confirm with a different source? and is it all channels?
thanks for the thoughts I'll test that tonight
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thanks for the thoughts I'll test that tonight

No prob! If using hdmi just try a few system restarts of the 8801 and your source to see if fixes the sound. If not post back after testing and we'll go from there
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I keep reading official references to the fact that the AV8801 can bi-amp in 5.1 mode "Bi-amp drive (5.1 ch settings)" in multiple different Marantz documents but reading here that it can not bi-amp.




Has anyone used the "bi-amp drive" on the AV8801?
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In order for a D&M AVR or Pre/Pro to use an on board "bi-amp" feature, it must have an AMP ASSIGN setting to reassign the speaker posts (AVR) or pre-outs (Pre/Pro) to pass the same FL/FR signal to both sets of speaker posts/pre-outs. The AV8801 does not have this setting, however, the new AV7702/AV8802 do.

From the AV7702 Owner's manual ...


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I understand what you are saying. And I totally agree.
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it just seems some of the documentation says there is (which I will post at post #5 )
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I've read the group experience but it just seems the documentation and the fact the 4520 says it can has led me to pose are we sure this thing can't bi-amp.
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Marantz says it can here:
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http://www.sarte-audio.com/sites/def...heet2_copy.pdf


I've seen three different Marantz documents all saying it can bi-amp, albeit international.


AV7701 can apparently bi-amp if the PR dept is to be believed:


http://us.marantz.com/ca/News/Pages/...aspx?NewsID=28






sorry for all the posts but I couldn't post links and I think 1 link is worth 1000 words on this.
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I've read the group experience but it just seems the documentation and the fact the 4520 says it can has led me to pose are we sure this thing can't bi-amp.
The 4520CI is an AVR. The 7CH/9CH D&M AVRs all feature an AMP ASSIGN setting for bi-amp.
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The 4520CI is an AVR. The 7CH/9CH D&M AVRs all feature an AMP ASSIGN setting for bi-amp.

appreciate the partial response I'd love feedback on the documents as well since it says it has BI-AMP DRIVE (5.1 setting)


Your response though in no logical way is an argument against this unit having bi-amp capabilities. In fact it could be taken as an argument it likely has it lol, but that's not logical either.
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The Owner's manuals (being generated from Japan) are generally considered to be more reliable than marketing info that is generated from the USA. Refer to the Marantz website for the AV8801 Owner's manual.
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I was just recently reading the Owner's (downloaded PDF) Manual for the Marantz MM8077 amplifier and it was not clear if one could use banana connectors on the speaker terminals. I also did a quick search here but could not find the information I am seeking. If there are any MM8077 owners out there (or someone knowledgeable/familiar with the amp), I was hoping if someone could let me know if I can use banana connectors on the amp's speaker terminals.

Just wondering because I can use them on the rear of my SR7005, and hoping I can do the same on the MM8077.


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I was just recently reading the Owner's (downloaded PDF) Manual for the Marantz MM8077 amplifier and it was not clear if one could use banana connectors on the speaker terminals. I also did a quick search here but could not find the information I am seeking. If there are any MM8077 owners out there (or someone knowledgeable/familiar with the amp), I was hoping if someone could let me know if I can use banana connectors on the amp's speaker terminals.

Just wondering because I can use them on the rear of my SR7005, and hoping I can do the same on the MM8077.

Yes you can!
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Kbarnes701, thanks for advise...i had all the equipment for so many years and never thought they were so good until i added av8801 to my HT...It is completely different level....I wish i realized this before(almost from past 3-4years)..o well late in game but enjoying ever bit of it now.....awesome music and movie sounds....
Good to hear!
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Did you confirm with a different source? and is it all channels?
all right so I did more tests and it was only on the front channels
it was due to my stereo preamp on which the full bandwith config on the bi-amp outputs is not so full after all, and when I inverted my amps the sound was no good.
re-cabled as originally and everything is back to normal.
I'm checking with my stereo prepamp manufacturer for the details...
so no issue on the 8801 ;o)
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all right so I did more tests and it was only on the front channels
it was due to my stereo preamp on which the full bandwith config on the bi-amp outputs is not so full after all, and when I inverted my amps the sound was no good.
re-cabled as originally and everything is back to normal.
I'm checking with my stereo prepamp manufacturer for the details...
so no issue on the 8801 ;o)

That's good to hear , which preamp are you using?
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Hi


Does anyone know what the pre-out specs are on this AV8801.
The only spec I can see on Marantz homepage is :
- Unbalanced: 1.2V
- Balanced: 2.4 V


But this gives me nothing on impedance and max voltage.
I need to know because my existing SR7005 is having issues with clipping on my power-amp (sound becoming harsh at only 50% volume on my XPA-5), and I am trying to figure out if this issue will be cleared by swapping my SR7005 with this AV8801.


I am hoping anyone out there has awesome knowledge on the matter.
Thank you in advance
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