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I have a problem. My surround HDMI headphones dont work with the AV8801. They did work fine with my previous AVR, a Pioneer Elite VSX-53. I am attaching a screenshot of connections. It is in Japanese (they are sold there mostly, there is no English manual, sorry), but the diagram is pretty simple and does not need a translation. Basically, monitor out from AV8801 goes into the headphones processor , from there HDMI out goes into the TV. Simple. But it does not work. The only explanation thaat comes to mind is HDCP or a higher HDMI version in the AV8801 as opposed to the Pioneer Elite I used to have.
There are a couple of workarounds.
1) Get a 6.35mm 1/4" Stereo plug to 2 x RCA Female Socket Audio Headphone Adapter, connect headphones out on the AV8801 and it will work (I hope). I dont want to go this route because the surround capability will be lost. Besides, this ugly adapter and unsightly RCA cables will be hanging on the front panel of the otherwise gorgeous Marantz!
2) Connect Media Server RCA out on the back panel of the Marantz. This is what I have now. The problem that this ONLY sends the Media Server audio to the headphones, BluRay, DVR and all other sources do not.
Question: why wouldn't HDMI work with the headphones? What would you suggest I do? Thanks a lot.
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If connected to one of the main zone HDMI outputs, the "HDMI Audio Out" setting would have to be set to "TV" in order to pass the audio along with the video, otherwise the Zone 4 HDMI Out will pass audio/video by default.
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If connected to one of the main zone HDMI outputs, the "HDMI Audio Out" setting would have to be set to "TV" in order to pass the audio along with the video, otherwise the Zone 4 HDMI Out will pass audio/video by default.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your help, JD. Switching to "TV" did the trick! This is the third problem you helped me resolved. Thanks a lot.
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Note also that if using an analog connection to headphones, you can also connect to either the Zone 2/3 pre-outs or the Media Player analog output (mirrors Zone 2 pre-out) but doing so would not pass HDMI sources, rather only analog and networking (unlike the newer AV8802 which can also pass 2.0 HDMI and optical/digital coax to Zone 2).
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Note also that if using an analog connection to headphones, you can also connect to either the Zone 2/3 pre-outs or the Media Player analog output (mirrors Zone 2 pre-out) but doing so would not pass HDMI sources, rather only analog and networking (unlike the newer AV8802 which can also pass 2.0 HDMI and optical/digital coax to Zone 2).
It all works now. For a minute there was another issue. I tested the BluRay player. The signal was DTS-HD MSTR on disk. But the AV8801 showed "Stereo". As soon as I switched from "TV" to "AVP", the signal was correct, but there was no sound in the headphones. But as soon as I switched back to "TV" the Marantz showed the correct DTS-HD MSTR and headphones started to work as well. Must have reset somehow. So, it all works now.
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Is there a way for me to do a firmware update if the networking card is not present in my 8801? I bought it 'for parts or not working' and it is missing the network card.
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Is there a way for me to do a firmware update if the networking card is not present in my 8801? I bought it 'for parts or not working' and it is missing the network card.
Not that I know of. An 8801 without network connectivity is really crippled. No web access. No configuration load/save. No network apps. No firmware update. Have you considered purchasing a network card?
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Not that I know of. An 8801 without network connectivity is really crippled. No web access. No configuration load/save. No network apps. No firmware update. Have you considered purchasing a network card?
Maybe, but a network card costs $234. If I buy one of those then I will have $335 in it. I don't know if it is worth that to me since I only use it for two channel playback.
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Is there a way for me to do a firmware update if the networking card is not present in my 8801? I bought it 'for parts or not working' and it is missing the network card.
Not as an owner, no. A repair facility could likely do it though.

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Not as an owner, no. A repair facility could likely do it though.
Problem is, I cannot get in contact with the Marantz repair facility closest to me. They don't answer their phone or respond to emails.
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Maybe, but a network card costs $234. If I buy one of those then I will have $335 in it. I don't know if it is worth that to me since I only use it for two channel playback.
Wow, $335 invested in a $3,000 piece of equipment. What were you thinking?

Why do you think you need a firmware update? Are you missing a feature, or having an issue?
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I am not having any issues, I have just read in a few places that a certain firmware update had improved the sound quality or something like that.

And thanks for noticing my fortunate investment. There was one other guy that tried to snipe the auction but I was fortunate enough to bid $101.99 while he tried to snipe in at $101.00 even. I don't think I will ever run across a deal like that again. I will have to hand it to the seller too. He packed it very well and went through with the sale even though it was a give away. I'm just tickled that it works.

It was missing the network card, two knobs, and the top and side covers. I think I may make my own covers out of copper and the knobs are cheap. Like I said though, the only thing I would use the network card for would be firmware updates.

It does sound nice
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Wow, $335 invested in a $3,000 piece of equipment. What were you thinking?
I certainly hope no one actually paid $3000...

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I am not having any issues, I have just read in a few places that a certain firmware update had improved the sound quality or something like that.

And thanks for noticing my fortunate investment. There was one other guy that tried to snipe the auction but I was fortunate enough to bid $101.99 while he tried to snipe in at $101.00 even. I don't think I will ever run across a deal like that again. I will have to hand it to the seller too. He packed it very well and went through with the sale even though it was a give away. I'm just tickled that it works.

It was missing the network card, two knobs, and the top and side covers. I think I may make my own covers out of copper and the knobs are cheap. Like I said though, the only thing I would use the network card for would be firmware updates.

It does sound nice
sounds like a good deal

IMO...I would not invest that amount in a network card

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