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Hi,
just a short feedback so far.


The IP64.30.224.206 seems to be the key for solving this problem. Unfortunately my good old router doesn’t have the option to block an IP.


So I tried using the static routing function, to route the IP 64.30.224.206 to an unused IP of my internal network range.


For now it seems to work fine in the first tests, but I will test it over the Weekend on its reliability.


Thank you jdsmoothie for that advice.
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Hi, i have 3 "un-used" channels on my 8077.
I do not have enough space for a decent center channel, i do have space for 2 small surround speakers, the Magnat Needle Sat.


Nominal (RMS) Output Power:45 Watt
Overload protection circuitry
2 speakers, Nominal Impedance:4/8 Ohm
Sensitivity:88 dB/Watt
Speaker Type:2-way - passive
Max Output Power:70 Watt
Crossover Frequency:3700Hz
Magnetic Shield:Yes
Frequency Response:75 - 30000 Hz
Driver Details:Speaker :
1 x mid/woofer driver - 2.5" - cellulose
1 x tweeter driver - 0.5" - Polycarbonate
Speakers 4/8 Ohm - wired


I can use 2 of them on the left and right of the TV middle stand, and each can have one channel to drive them


Will or can this work for a "center channel" ?
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So after doing testing last weekend I can say it works fine, when using the static routing function of the router, in case you’re not able to block a single IP.


So again thanks for help.


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I have a new issue:

I am using the zone 4 feature to connect the Apple TV to a TV in the master bedroom. Because it is in a different room, I have to use two apps to control everything. The marantz app works great, every time... the Apple TV remote app is AWFUL. It crashes half the time, and other times, it simpy wont 'wake up' the apple TV. There's nothing you can do except go to the other room and either use the remote, or power cycle the Apple TV (because of course you'd have to power cycle it, how hard is it to put a few buttons on the device itself for basic functions).

Anyway, I was looking into the HDMI CEC feature but the manual says if I use the Zone 4 feature, and set the output monitor as the Zone 4 monitor, then If I turn on a device in the Main Zone, it will turn on the Zone 4 monitor. I don't want that. Honestly, all I want is to turn on the Marantz with an app and somehow trigger the Apple TV to turn on when the Marantz is on and set to the media player input. Is this even possible?
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Seems this thread is dead, just like the 8801
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Hi, i have 3 "un-used" channels on my 8077.
I do not have enough space for a decent center channel, i do have space for 2 small surround speakers, the Magnat Needle Sat.


Nominal (RMS) Output Power:45 Watt
Overload protection circuitry
2 speakers, Nominal Impedance:4/8 Ohm
Sensitivity:88 dB/Watt
Speaker Type:2-way - passive
Max Output Power:70 Watt
Crossover Frequency:3700Hz
Magnetic Shield:Yes
Frequency Response:75 - 30000 Hz
Driver Details:Speaker :
1 x mid/woofer driver - 2.5" - cellulose
1 x tweeter driver - 0.5" - Polycarbonate
Speakers 4/8 Ohm - wired


I can use 2 of them on the left and right of the TV middle stand, and each can have one channel to drive them


Will or can this work for a "center channel" ?
What are your main L/R speakers?
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What are your main L/R speakers?
Hi, thanks for your reply :-)
I went for the new Klipsch RP-440C and for surround the Klipsch RP-240S.
Front will stay Magnat Quantum 1009.
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Hi, thanks for your reply :-)
I went for the new Klipsch RP-440C and for surround the Klipsch RP-240S.
Front will stay Magnat Quantum 1009.
Any center with limited size is going to have a hard time keeping up with your Magnats.

You might be better off with a phantom center.

That Klipsch might work but you normally need something similar to your mains to keep from being "distracting" on pans of sound.

Golden Ear has some fairly short centers that might work depending on your available placement.

Good luck.
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Any center with limited size is going to have a hard time keeping up with your Magnats.

You might be better off with a phantom center.

That Klipsch might work but you normally need something similar to your mains to keep from being "distracting" on pans of sound.

Golden Ear has some fairly short centers that might work depending on your available placement.

Good luck.
I respectfully disagree. The Klipsch center seems perfectly adequate. And in my experience, unless you are the only listener sitting in the MLP, a phantom center is rarely as enjoyable as having an actual center channel speaker, especially for cinema. You can always change to stereo mode for music listening, depending on your preference.
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Well, i have it running and sounds great, no specific sound change to my ears, even i did not run Audyssey yet.
Until now it seems to work with the Magnats.
Hope in the near future i will change to Atmos (need the 8802 or 3) and use the Klipsch Atmos front speakers, but thats the future........ ;-)
For now this is ok !
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Well, i have it running and sounds great, no specific sound change to my ears, even i did not run Audyssey yet.
Until now it seems to work with the Magnats.
Hope in the near future i will change to Atmos (need the 8802 or 3) and use the Klipsch Atmos front speakers, but thats the future........ ;-)
For now this is ok !
And that's all that matters.
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CrazyRiderR1 Wrote,
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" The majority of my HiRes music is on a hard drive in FLAC format. I've got a question for the forum. What would be better, hook the hard drive directly to the AV8801 and play it from there or should I look into a different source unit for the best audio fidelity and ease of use? Also, how easy is a hard drive to navigate with the 8801's software?"
I don't wish to burst your bubble before the ite even arrives but... I upgraded from the Av-8003 to the 8801 specifically for this feature of being able to playback multiple audio formats something the 8003 could not do. What I did not realize however is that the 8801 will play back multiple audio formats yes but without album art. I cannot get the 8801 to display metadata for any audio format and I have tried two different 8801's. I purchased mine in November 2014 and still kick Marantz tech every so often but I have actually given up on ever seeing album art through the 8801.

As for how is the software on the 8801 it is the same as the 8003 and it is clunky and slow to use and navigate through. With the addition of Tidal music service now available on my Oppo it is the input of choice as it plays back CD quality sound is very user friendly and will categorize and display album art. It is unfortunate for sure but this works well for me and maybe for you as well.

I dealt with Marantz on this issue for well over 7 months and their "help" is only if you have nothing better to do with your time, believe me.
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As for how is the software on the 8801 it is the same as the 8003 and it is clunky and slow to use and navigate through.
I have yet to see a prepro with a satisfactory file playback GUI.

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If I hook up my iPhone to the 8801 via a USB cable and switch it to the correct input, is the 8801 able to bypass the DAC on my phone and use its own, much better DACs on the files, or are the phone's own DACs unavoidable? I have all of my music on a NAS in lossless, but because the GUI of all AV components is clunky in navigating music, I prefer to just stream the music to my phone and then send it to the AVR, but is something getting lost in the translation?
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Guys-

I had a quick question, sorry of it has been covered in the 436 pages of the thread...cant seem to find...

I have a large dedicated theater (30 ft long) so I have 2 rows of seats with 2 rows of SIDE surrounds, plus 2 rear channels.

9.2 setup (Non-ATMOS)

My question is if I play a 5.1 or 7.1 channel blu-ray disc or ISO image, is there a processing mode in the AV8801 that will output on all 6 surround channels?

thanks Vince
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Guys-

I had a quick question, sorry of it has been covered in the 436 pages of the thread...cant seem to find...

I have a large dedicated theater (30 ft long) so I have 2 rows of seats with 2 rows of SIDE surrounds, plus 2 rear channels.

9.2 setup (Non-ATMOS)

My question is if I play a 5.1 or 7.1 channel blu-ray disc or ISO image, is there a processing mode in the AV8801 that will output on all 6 surround channels?

thanks Vince
Do your two side surround speaker pairs receive the same signal, I.e. Are you wiring them in parallel from the same speaker terminals? If yes, then you should be receiving a signal on both side surrounds as well as the surround backs in PLIIx mode.
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Do your two side surround speaker pairs receive the same signal, I.e. Are you wiring them in parallel from the same speaker terminals? If yes, then you should be receiving a signal on both side surrounds as well as the surround backs in PLIIx mode.

I have not bought the pre-pro or speakers yet...I did not want to mess with parallel resistance issue....wanted one speaker wire pair per channel coming from the 8801 to one speaker 1:1....

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I have not bought the pre-pro or speakers yet...I did not want to mess with parallel resistance issue....wanted one speaker wire pair per channel coming from the 8801 to one speaker 1:1....

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The 8801 does not have a provision for two pairs of side surrounds.
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My guess is you would not use di-pole side surrounds and would use a Y connector for the L/R side surround amp inputs.

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I have yet to see a prepro with a satisfactory file playback GUI.
Good info - I use my Oppo to play files
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Good info - I use my Oppo to play files
I used to do that but I got fed up with the user interface as my collection grew and went to a PC-based music server.

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Me too. Everything is on my pc and backed up by Carbonite. I use jriver to manage the music through the Oppo
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Me too. Everything is on my pc and backed up by Carbonite. I use jriver to manage the music through the Oppo
I'd do that, too, if the Oppo could handle MCH/HD via Ethernet or USB.

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I'm looking at getting an AV8801 to replace a nearly dead DHC-80.3 I am a casual movie watcher and will actually output the 2 front channels to my Modwright LS-100 tube stage. My question is if the stereo XLR inputs are truly balanced or are they terminated single ended. I have a modded Oppo 105D and want to take advantage of a truly balanced circuit for SACD and DVD-A.
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You should pick one up.... I actually still love mine , even though for a brief few month period.. I lived with a cx-a5000 Yammie (expensive lesson lol.. i will use it in a secondary system when i move into a bigger place) which i didn't think sounded as good as my 8801 with my setup .... IMO.. i don't think it can be beat yet.. in this price range that they are blowing them out at... !! You will love it.... the only thing probably better is the 8802... but for the money the 8801 cannot be beat .. and i paid slightly more for it in Dec 14 from AVS! Still a wonderful unit that sounds as good on music as on movies!!!
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I'm looking at getting an AV8801 to replace a nearly dead DHC-80.3 I am a casual movie watcher and will actually output the 2 front channels to my Modwright LS-100 tube stage. My question is if the stereo XLR inputs are truly balanced or are they terminated single ended. I have a modded Oppo 105D and want to take advantage of a truly balanced circuit for SACD and DVD-A.

AV8801 & AV8802 and most pre-pros at this price level provide analog balanced in for stereo inputs, to hopefully a differential receiver that removes most of the common mode noise, which is the main reason you wanted the balanced input, then single ended through any switching and volume control, and then both single-ended, and single-ended converted to balanced; outputs. XLR inputs on any units at this price level are often weak links because of the limited voltage levels used in these units. Often the XLR inputs are cut by 6dB (1/2) so that the voltage level fits with the voltage levels used in the units. All of this works quite well sound quality-wise, better than my description may imply, but if you are sold on balanced circuits through the entire unit, then you will be disappointed at this price level, not just with these units, which are very nice units.

After I wrote the above I thought perhaps you were asking about the signal chain after the DAC in the pre-pro In either the AV8801 or AV8802 the signal from the DAC chip is converted to single-ended using an op amp. It then goes single-ended through the volume control, and then to the single-ended and balanced outputs described above.

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Just a quick question.. i am pretty sure i am thinking this is correct, but wanted to run it by you guys first... I want to do another audessey measurement again.., only because i had the unit in the box a few months when i was using the yammie and it sounds good still .. but i had changed my physical sub volume control and would like to do measurements again just to be on the safe side to be a little more accurate to the audessey recommended 75 db green dot sub setting etc, and maybe my original audessey settings are a little off because of that. So if i make a complete new audessey measurement(s) and then, if for some reason.. i want to go back to the old one, i would "restore results" or would i just save this one and reload it later on the web config? I think that sounds right... thanks guys.. :0
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AV8801 is dead

Well, it lasted 2 mediocre years.

I have no audio on any channel now, and it makes a Whomp Whomp Whomp sound that cycles about every 2 minutes.

I really have come to despise Marantz and I am going back to Yamaha...
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Well, it lasted 2 mediocre years.

I have no audio on any channel now, and it makes a Whomp Whomp Whomp sound that cycles about every 2 minutes.

I really have come to despise Marantz and I am going back to Yamaha...
Have you tried resetting the microprocessor (p. 186 Owner's manual) a few times in a row?

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