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Does anyone have any review or feedback for Sony's new STR-DA1800ES receiver? I am in a market for a mid range receiver with wireless, bluetooth and airplay capabilities but not necessarily Home Automation features.

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I have purchased one and have been using it for a few weeks now. What would you like to know? I "upgraded" from a Yamaha V673.

The Sony resolves the bug in the V673 where it would sometimes incorrectly start BluRays output in LPCM 5.1 or 7.1 as LPCM 2.0 on my PS3. This drove me nuts and is why I switched. I'm not the only one who had this problem.

On the other hand, the first time is starts to play BluRay LPCM sources from my PS3, I hear a weird popping sound from the speakers. Only happens once, and preferable to getting the wrong audio feed!

The Sony has an AMAZING tuner in it, far more sensitive than the FM tuner on the Yamaha. There are also far more station memory presets on the Sony.

The UI on the Sony is still the antiquated one found on their low end receivers. It's ugly, but functional. Yamaha has a much better UI. The Yamaha also had a much more noticeable "enhancement" mode for compressed audio, though I suspect all it did was up the bass and treble.

It is a much smaller receiver than the Yamaha, both in height and depth, which is nice. Weight was about the same.

One nice feature is that it has Zone 2 HDMI out, which the Yamaha did not have for Zone 2.

Also, it can actually upscale 480p and 1080p over component to HDMI, unlike the Yamaha that only did 480i component to HDMI. But the upscaling is not full screen, so still rather worthless.

It seems to have a greater surround sound presence that the Yamaha, but I think it sounds brighter where the Yamaha sounded warmer.

It does not have a 6 ohm speaker option like the Yamaha, but my speakers work fine on 8 ohm.

The Sony has a much better power button for turning off your TV. It's near the main receiver power, not a tiny button on the bottom of the remote.

They both have the same number of HDMI inputs, but one of the inputs was on the front with the Yamaha, which was handy.

Annoyingly, BOTH receivers unmuted the sound when you lower the volume, unlike my old Sony receiver. This is just plain stupid.

The Sony has integrated wireless with an external antenna mounted on the back of the receiver, the Yamaha did not.

The Sony has better speaker plugs in my opinion.

Input switching is about as fast as the Yamaha.

I like the remote better overall on Sony. Yamaha had too many tiny buttons, especially for input switching, and I was pressing the wrong ones constantly.

I've only tried one or two Internet radio stations so far, but they sounded GREAT with zero hiccups. Again, the UI is a little clunky to say the least.

I don't use the AirPlay or Bluetooth features, so can't comment on that.

Not really sure what I gained for my purposes over the latest lower range Sony receiver. Probably way better resale value, and its less likely to break with a 5 year warranty?
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Thanks for your inputs. I am replacing my Onkyo receiver with this one.
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Thanks for your inputs. I am replacing my Onkyo receiver with this one.

No problem, does the Onkyo also unmute when you change the volume?
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I don't remember having that issue with Onkyo. Its completely dead for me to try out now. I like the Sony features, and its so new that the price tag is quite high right now.
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Does the STR-DA1800ES have a visual volume bar on the TV screen over HDMI? I have an ES3500 with Sony Bravia W 52" TV and there is no visual volume bar on the TV screen.

I noticed Denon and Yamaha have this on screen volume feature and was hoping Sony finally added to this model.

Please let me know if you have this volume bar. Thank you.
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I have purchased one and have been using it for a few weeks now. What would you like to know? I "upgraded" from a Yamaha V673.
The Sony resolves the bug in the V673 where it would sometimes incorrectly start BluRays output in LPCM 5.1 or 7.1 as LPCM 2.0 on my PS3. This drove me nuts and is why I switched. I'm not the only one who had this problem.
On the other hand, the first time is starts to play BluRay LPCM sources from my PS3, I hear a weird popping sound from the speakers. Only happens once, and preferable to getting the wrong audio feed!
The Sony has an AMAZING tuner in it, far more sensitive than the FM tuner on the Yamaha. There are also far more station memory presets on the Sony.
The UI on the Sony is still the antiquated one found on their low end receivers. It's ugly, but functional. Yamaha has a much better UI. The Yamaha also had a much more noticeable "enhancement" mode for compressed audio, though I suspect all it did was up the bass and treble.
It is a much smaller receiver than the Yamaha, both in height and depth, which is nice. Weight was about the same.
One nice feature is that it has Zone 2 HDMI out, which the Yamaha did not have for Zone 2.
Also, it can actually upscale 480p and 1080p over component to HDMI, unlike the Yamaha that only did 480i component to HDMI. But the upscaling is not full screen, so still rather worthless.
It seems to have a greater surround sound presence that the Yamaha, but I think it sounds brighter where the Yamaha sounded warmer.
It does not have a 6 ohm speaker option like the Yamaha, but my speakers work fine on 8 ohm.
The Sony has a much better power button for turning off your TV. It's near the main receiver power, not a tiny button on the bottom of the remote.
They both have the same number of HDMI inputs, but one of the inputs was on the front with the Yamaha, which was handy.
Annoyingly, BOTH receivers unmuted the sound when you lower the volume, unlike my old Sony receiver. This is just plain stupid.
The Sony has integrated wireless with an external antenna mounted on the back of the receiver, the Yamaha did not.
The Sony has better speaker plugs in my opinion.
Input switching is about as fast as the Yamaha.
I like the remote better overall on Sony. Yamaha had too many tiny buttons, especially for input switching, and I was pressing the wrong ones constantly.
I've only tried one or two Internet radio stations so far, but they sounded GREAT with zero hiccups. Again, the UI is a little clunky to say the least.
I don't use the AirPlay or Bluetooth features, so can't comment on that.
Not really sure what I gained for my purposes over the latest lower range Sony receiver. Probably way better resale value, and its less likely to break with a 5 year warranty?

Thanks for the info. I might be picking this AVR up for Xmas. I really like the built in WiFi and BT.

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Thanks for the information. I am considering this unit and have been looking for some information. So far this has been helpful. One question that I can't seem to find the answer to... So by this unit as well as the 1030 having built in wifi and Bluetooth, if I was to buy a pair of Bluetooth or wifi speakers, would they be able to connect to the receiver directly wirelessly to play in other rooms where a wired option is not easy? Or does the built in Bt/wifi only support audio streaming to the receiver?
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Another question for Sony ES receiver owners. These models have two HDMI outs, but does one potentially affect the other or are they completely independent? What I mean is I'll be simultaneously displaying the same movie/game/etc. on a 1080p 3D projector AND, in an adjacent room, on a small 26" 720p TV. Will the receiver find the lowest common denominator and thus send an inferior signal to the projector?
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Or if there's a better subforum to ask about the mechanics of the HDMI signal I'd appreciate it if someone could point me there. I'd hate to put so much $ into a beautiful projector and not be able to get full HD because it's sharing a signal with a little TV. Thanks!
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Just an update for posterity here. I chatted with a Sony tech who, after putting me on hold for a while, came back and told me that actually you can't watch a source on two displays at once using this receiver, or any Sony receiver for that matter. So my question about different screen resolutions above is irrelevant because it can't even be done. I'm surprised by this, but maybe that's how all receivers with dual HDMI outs work? Leaves me wondering how a sports bar or similar places set up their displays to show the same source on two or more screens. Is it really that hard to do?
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I have hit a brick wall. I don’t know who else to turn to. I recently upgraded my home theater only to be plagued by intermittent signal loss during playback of blu-ray movies. The picture simply goes dark and I get a “no signal” message on the television for about 10 seconds and then the picture returns. It usually happens once or twice during blu-ray movie playback. The audio is unaffected. I currently have a Sony BDP-S590 Blu-ray player connected to a Sony STR-DA 1800 ES Receiver. The receiver is connected to an LG LM7200 LED Television. All are connected via High Speed HDMI cables. The following is a list of my failed attempts to fix this problem:
• Replaced all HDMI cables (Rocketfish)
• Replaced HDMI cables again with a different brand (Rosewill)
• Made sure HDMI cables met the latest specifications
• Had geek squad replace the HDMI board on the television
• Replaced the receiver
• Replaced the blu ray player
• Replaced the blu ray player with a different brand (LG)
• Made sure all firmware was updated
• Tried HDMI Control on and off on Blu ray player and the receiver
• Disabled Deep Colour
• Set resolution on blu ray player to auto
• Manually set resolution on blu ray player to 1080p
• Tried Simplink on and off (LG’s version of Bravia sync)
• Tried ARC on and off
• Tried both HDMI port 1 and 2 on television (port 1 is ARC)
• Tried multiple ports on receiver
• Tried factory resets on all equipment
• Tried hard reset by unplugging all equipment
• Tried turning on equipment in different sequences-
 tv, receiver, blu ray
 receiver, blu ray, tv
 blu ray, receiver, tv
I also use a ps3, xbox 360 and Wii U (all connected via HDMI) with this receiver. I have ZERO problems with these units. I also notice that it doesn't seem to happen during DVD playback. It appears to be related to Blu Ray movies only. I am at a complete loss at this point. I’m hoping an expert out there can point me in the right direction. One other thing, (not that this will probably matter) I don’t have a cable box. I only have basic cable that is a coax cable from the wall that I screwed into the back of the television. No problems when connecting the Blu ray player directly to television which leads me to think the communication issue seems to lie between the television and the receiver. Please help me, I just can’t believe that the television and receiver are incompatible but unfortunately, that seems to be the case. I appreciate any help you guys can provide.
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Does this thing have a video select for LCD/LED/Plasma/OLED panels?
My Pioneer 1021k has this and Plasma treats my picture PERFECT, it makes my Panasonic GT25 calibrated even better.
The 1123k and this are my next choices as i need ZoneB/2 HDMI moving forward so i can channel the digital audio out to digital headphones for my harder of hearing family member using the TV as well.
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I'm experiencing the same thing. I hope somebody can help.

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