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post #1 of 7 Old 10-17-2012, 12:55 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm looking at these 2 receivers. The Pioneer is usually much more expensive, but Newegg has a great deal on it this week that I can get Best Buy to price match, so it will be the same price as the 1713.

I know the Denon's room EQ is more advanced than the Pioneers, but the VSX-1122 does come with the Advances version of MCACC. I also like the fact that the Pioneer will output video to the tv through the Apple front usb port, and that it's 7.1, something I'd like to take advantage of in a 6-12 months.

I guess my main question is, aside from the difference in the MCACC vs Audessey room EQ, is there any reason why I should take the Denon over the Pioneer?
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I'm also curious if dynamic volume or any other Audyssey features are available on the 1713/1613? It seems to be available on the AVR-590 which is an older model =/
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Audyssey, Dyn EQ, and Dyn Vol are found on all Denon models except the lowest model for the past few years. Dyn Vol and Dyn EQ are on both Denon models with the 1713 featuring the more advanced version of MultEQ XT also found on the "CI" models while the 1613 and 1913 both use the lower version of MultEQ.

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I have denon 3311 and Pioneer 1222. Putting audessey out of the question there is no reason to take denon over pioneer. Advanced mcacc do a great job. You can tweak after calibration. Has 6 memory banks so you can leave one with original cal and copy that to another bank and do whatever you want With the copied cal without damaging the original. ( more bass, more highs, more or less mids, boost SW, etc).. Just one thing: crossover on pioneer is 50hz, 80hz, 100hz, 120hz, 150hz, 200hz and do it to alll speakers. On denon you can select xo to fronts different from center and from surrounds. Thats Pioneers philosophy. Also you will not have 60hz, 90hz, 110hz to cross over. Just those I mentioned.
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Although MCACC offers more tweakability, it cannot EQ the sub while Audyssey on the Denon models can. smile.gif

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I have denon 3311 and Pioneer 1222. Putting audessey out of the question there is no reason to take denon over pioneer. Advanced mcacc do a great job. You can tweak after calibration. Has 6 memory banks so you can leave one with original cal and copy that to another bank and do whatever you want With the copied cal without damaging the original. ( more bass, more highs, more or less mids, boost SW, etc).. Just one thing: crossover on pioneer is 50hz, 80hz, 100hz, 120hz, 150hz, 200hz and do it to alll speakers. On denon you can select xo to fronts different from center and from surrounds. Thats Pioneers philosophy. Also you will not have 60hz, 90hz, 110hz to cross over. Just those I mentioned.

Does audyssey have multiple memory banks like the mcaccc advanced? I guess its a question of whether audyssey is really worth it =/
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Although MCACC offers more tweakability, it cannot EQ the sub while Audyssey on the Denon models can. smile.gif

It EQs down to 63hz which would encompass some of the sub for most setups. smile.gif

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