Thanks for the replies.
erick.s, Costco is about 70+ miles from me. We're kinda out here in the boonies, you might say....get great OTA reception sitting on this hill, though!
So how about them Giants, afrogt? They gonna settle in for that cold weather tonight? This will be interesting!
Well, I've resigned myself to going with a Denon refurb from a4l...you got me to thinking (dangerous thing). I've registering and hoping a4l will send me a "new customer take 90% off your first purchase" email.
I'm gonna wait until Sunday evening to order...I figure it won't ship out any faster if I order earlier, and who knows...they might have a 10-percenter or a free shipping between now and then.
Waiting will also give me time to decide between the 1612 and the 1712 as I'm still undecided between the two. I like the extra HDMI ports with the 1712 and possibly a better sound quality, but another sixty bucks or so and these are refurbs. I'm still a little gun-shy on refurbs but I really think Onkyo's problems are to do with the oven-factor...they've lost me for good, though. I erred in my my number of Onkyos...it's four...I bought one for our church...it's still going but it's not used regularly and is only used to run audio through.
Anyhow, I'm deciding between the 1612 and 1712. I'm also wondering about the lowly extended warranty. Seems my Onkyo refurbs have gone out within 3 years...makes me wonder if I ought to try an extended warranty with the Denon. I know, I know...extended warranties are rat holes to put money in but with my experience with refurbs....????
Will be clicking the button sometime Sunday evening.