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post #121 of 123 Old 01-21-2015, 04:34 PM
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They will eventually release a new flagship the new 3000es isn't a flagship but since they did an update of the 5800es to the 5800es2 a few months ago to get rid of the video streaming because they didn't have the proper licensing in place and had to pay a substantial fine , if they had something else in the pipe I would have thought they would have pulled it but I'm guessing that they are waiting on hdmi 2 / hdcp2.2 capabilities full implementation ...currently they are limited to a 4:2:2 chroma or something else less than full capacity
Looks pretty nice...

The webpage says it is 100 watts per channel... but that is at 6 ohms...

I guess it goes up to 110 watts per channel at 8 ohms...

Not quite the 130 watts per channel of the 5800 - but still looks nice.

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I think it's built to match up with their new High res speaker's that came out 6 months ago...all are 6ohm
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The chipsets to support HDMI 2.0 at full bandwidth and HDCP 2.2 are already in products, but how can you tell? Up until CES this month, I was under the distinct impression that products with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 copy protection?which is required for most 4K/UHD content?were limited to the lower HDMI 2.0 bandwidth of 10.2 Gbps, because the chipsets to support the full bandwidth of 18 Gbps with HDCP 2.2 were not yet implemented in current products. However, a visit to the HDMI section of the South Hall show floor proved me wrong?though not without some lingering questions. I spoke with Steve Venuti, president of HDMI Licensing, the organization that licenses the HDMI spec to manufacturers. He told me that the required chips with HDMI 2.0 at 18 Gbps and HDCP 2.2 have been selling for the last six to eight months, and these are now in shipping products, including various Panasonic devices and Samsung TVs. I had thought it would have taken longer than that to integrate the new chips into products. A demonstration of this capability was running in the booth, labeled "4K@60" as seen in the photo above. A Panasonic DMT-BDP700 Blu-ray player (identified on the player itself) was sending HDMI to a Panasonic SU-HTB880 soundbar, which conveyed the HDMI signal to a Panasonic UHDTV (we couldn't see the model number, since the TV was affixed to the wall), all at 18 Gbps with HDCP 2.2. According to Steve, Panasonic had created custom content for the demo at 1080p/60. But the Blu-ray spec does not include the ability to encode 1080p/60, only 1080i/60 or 1080p at lower frame rates. I suppose Panasonic Hollywood Labs might be able to step outside the official Blu-ray spec, but how could a stock player deal with it? Until I hear otherwise from Panasonic, I'm going to assume that the content was 1080p/24 or 1080i/60 on the disc. Steve went on to say the player was upconverting that content to 4K (actually, 2160p) at 60 fps with 12-bit 4:2:2 color, which can, in fact, be conveyed by HDMI 2.0 at 18 Gbps but not at 10.2 Gbps. Of course, upconverting Blu-ray players are common these days, but I would be very surprised if any of them output 12-bit 4:2:2?after all, the data on a Blu-ray is 8-bit 4:2:0, and I know of no consumer TVs that can accept 12-bit 4:2:2, so why do that much upconversion? Then there's the TV?as I mentioned, we were unable to determine the model number, and Panasonic has not revealed it in subsequent communications. Obviously, it was a UHDTV, perhaps one of the models introduced at CES. But again, I am unaware of any consumer TV that can accept and display 12-bit video. I've asked Panasonic to clear up some of these questions, but I have not yet heard any definitive responses. In any event, it is now more difficult than ever to determine if a given product is capable of supporting HDMI 2.0 at 18 Gbps with HDCP 2.2. Manufacturers do not seem eager to reveal the actual bandwidth of their HDMI connection, and many representatives simply don't know, which is very frustrating. The full 18 Gbps bandwidth is critical for wide color gamut and increased bit depth at 50 and 60 fps, so it is imperative for savvy consumers to know if the products they buy can support these attributes. Steve also hinted at the next HDMI spec, which I speculate will be announced in roughly a year. He couldn't give me much detail, but he did say it would increase the bandwidth to allow for high dynamic range and immersive/object-oriented audio, and it would provide power for low-power devices such as media players, smartphones, and tablets, but not TVs, AVRs, or power amps. Like AVS Forum on Facebook Follow AVS Forum on Twitter +1 AVS Forum on Google+
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