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post #1 of 12 Old 12-18-2012, 08:16 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm near finishing my Theater/ Bar basement and will be needing a new receiver to run the room. The bar has a dual channel speaker fed to it as well as a coax and cat 5e fed from my stereo cabinet for a small tv. The bar area is behind the theater, so the bar speaker could be utilized as the rear 2 channels. All the speaker wires are ran through the walls, either to the in wall rears, or terminals for the fronts and center. No speakers picked out yet, but that will be later down the road for new ones.

I will be running a PS3, cable box and an HDMI output from the Laptop. I would like to run 7.1 surround for main movies. It would be nice to be able to have the main tv and 5.1 as well as run the bar tv and rear dual channel at the same time, but a seperate programs ( 2 games on etc). Are the many receivers that can handle that? My budget would be to keep it below a grand. I'm not brand loyal, But can get good deals through the local shop buying Denon, Anthem, Cambridge Audio, or Marantz.

Whats a decent unit a guy could pick up for a decent price?
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The new Denon 2113CI 7.1, features Audyssey MultEQ XT room correction as well as the 5.1/Zone 2 capability you want. If you can get last year's 2112CI, an even better deal. Review post #2 of the Denon AVR-XX13 Owner's thread to get an idea of what each model offers to determine if the 2113CI is the best fit for you.

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That looks perfect. Does it allow you to havethe main TV and rn the system with 5.1, and then use the second hdmi for another source and have the second zone have the audio for the second source? Have guys playing PS3 on the main system in 5.1 and then watch a game in the bar with both audio sources working? This is my first 2 zone AVR, not sure of the actual functioning of them. Some of the discussion in those threads are a little over my understanding of the units functions.
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That looks perfect. Does it allow you to havethe main TV and rn the system with 5.1, and then use the second hdmi for another source and have the second zone have the audio for the second source?

The 2113 only has 1 HDMI output so this may not be the receiver you're looking for if I understand your question correctly.

All zone 2 audio would be analog so you'd have to connect the red/white stereo cables to the receiver in order to pass sound to zone 2.

I think if you want dual HDMI outputs and the ability to play seperate HDMI in zone 2 you need last years 3312 which can still be found online. JD can confirm that.

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To provide for separate HDMI video sources in each zone via the AVR, you would have to upgrade to the new 3313CI, otherwise the 3312CI can only pass the same video source to each zone with the restriction of having to connect an analog red/white cable from each source you wanted to pass to the bar TV speaker. You can either use the 3313CI to power the speakers via the Surr Back/Amp Assign speaker posts or connect a 2CH amp to the Zone 2 pre-outs with the same "analog only" source limitation, or you can pass the Zone2(HDMI) out to 2nd HDMI AVR and use that AVR to power the bar speaker.

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Thanks for the correction JD, so its the 3313 he needs!

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Correct. AFAIK, Zone2(HDMI) outputs from several different brands was only first introduced with this year's new AVRs.

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Guess I'll be seeing what my local shop can do for pricing whether I can get into the AVR 3313ic or just stay with the 2313ic and just have the same source for both basement tvs. Probably wont actually use the dual hdmi sources that often, but would be nice to have as an option.
How well do AVR's hold their resale these days?
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Not long ... especially when a newer model is released each summer. In some cases the old model is clearanced out at 50-75% off MSRP shortly after the newer model is released.

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Thanks for the help JDS, picked up the 2313ci the other night. Got a hell of a deal and it was in stock! Now I just need to get the damn basement reno complete so I can plug it in and actually power it up.
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Great! Be sure to review posts #3-6 in the the Denon AVR-XX13 Owner's thread linked in my sig as well are review the Audyssey 101/FAQ also linked in my sig so as to ensure a proper Audyssey setup. And we'll see you in the XX13 Owner's thread if you have any setup/troubleshooting questions. smile.gif

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Back from the dead, Cause this AVR is wicked awsome! Sucks that you need to initiate airplay on zone one to get it to play through zone 2, but wicked none the less. No complaints but still getting used to the new unit and its options/ features.
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