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Figured it was time to open an official owners thread:

These are both comparable models. The SC-1527-K is a Future Shop Canada exclusive that is basically identical to the Elite SC-65 without the Elite badge.

Here are the links to the Pioneer Electronics Canada pages to start it off:

Here is the link to Pioneer Electronics page for the SC-65:

9.2-Channel Network Ready AV Receiver

THX® Select 2 Plus certified 9.2 Channel Class D3 Amplification brings unprecedented power and fidelity to your home theater.
MHL® Connectivity brings HD Audio and Video from your Android smart device.
4k2K passthrough allows connectivity with future HDTV formats.

Amplifier Design Class D3
Channels 9.2
Power Output: Watts per Channel 130 x 9 (1kHz)
4 OHM Speaker
Estimated Power Consumption 330 Watts

Made for iPod/iPhone/iPad Certified iPod/iPhone/iPad
Supported Apple Devices 4th gen Nano and above / iPhone, 3G, 3GS, 4 / iPad, iPad2
iControlAV Application iControlAV2012(iPad, iPhone, Android)
Supplied iPad/iPhone/iPod A/V Cable
iTunes Movie / TV / Video Playback via cable
iTunes Album Art
YouTube Video Playback via Supplied A/V Cable
Internet Radio vTuner
Pandora Radio
Sirius Radio via Internet w/ subscription
DLNA 1.5 Certified Yes
USB Formats MP3, WMA, iPod Digital, WAV 192kHz, FLAC 192kHz, JPEG
Network Audio Formats LPCM, WAV 192kHz, MP3, ACC, WMA, FLAC 192kHz

Digital Core DSP Engine TI Aureus x 2
THX™ Certification Select 2 Plus
iPod Digital Audio
192K/24-Bit DACs 192kHz/32-Bit
Dolby True HD
Dolby Digital plus
Dolby Pro-Logic IIz
DTS-HD Master Audio
DTS Neo:X Yes

Phase Control Auto / Plus
Auto MCACC Advanced
Manual MCACC
Standing Wave Control
EQ Bands 9
Symmetric EQ
MCACC Memory 6
Distance Adjustment 1/2 Inch
Polarity Check
Auto Subwoofer Crossover

Auto Surround
Auto Level Control Multi-Channel
Optimum Surround
Stream Direct Direct / Pure Direct
Advanced Surround 15 + Headphone Surround
Wide Surround
Front Stage Surround Advance Yes (Focus/Wide)
Headphone Surround
Virtual Surround Back
Virtual Height
Virtual Depth
Virtual Wide

High-bit. High sampling Hi-bit24
DSD to PCM Converter Multi-Channel
PQLS Jitter Reduction HDMI Bitstream/ Multi
Dialog Enhancement
Advanced Sound Retriever Multi-Channel / Auto with ARC
Sound Retriever AIR
Digital Noise Reduction
Tone Control Multi Channel
Sound Delay (Lip Sync) 10-Frames
Speaker A/B
Bi-Amp Front Channel

4k2k Video Passthrough
3-D Ready
Audio Return Channel
HDMI 36-bit Deep Color
HDMI x.v. Color
Video Converter to HDMI
Video Scaler Marvell Qdeo up to 1080p / 24fps
Stream Smoother
Pure Cinema
Video Parameter Adjustments Advanced Video Adjust - HD Sources Progressive Motion - YNR, CNR, BNR, MNR, Detail, Brightness, Contrast, Hue, Chroma, Black level

HDMI Input / Output 8 In / 2 Out
Wireless Adapter Port AS-BT200 / Air Jam App
Component Video Input / Output 2 In / 1 Out
iPhone / iPod Front USB / Composite Video
USB Memory Input Yes (MP3 / WMA / WAV 192kHz / FLAC 192kHz, JPEG)
Ethernet Input
Composite A/V Input / Output 4 In / 1 Out
Analog Audio Inputs / Output 1 In
Digital Inputs / Output 4 In / 1 Out
Pre-Amp Outputs 9.1 Channel (11.2 Terminals)
Headphone Output
Front A/V Inputs HDMI or MHL / USB / Composite Video
AM/FM Presets 63

On-Screen Display GUI with Album Art
Multi-Room and Source Output 2 Zone AV / 3 Zone Audio
Zone 2 Sources DVD, Sat/CBL, DVR/BDR, Internet radio, SiriusXM, Pandora, Media Server, Favorites, iPod/USB, TV, CD, Tuner, Adapter Port
Zone 3 Sources Analog Audio
12 Volt Trigger (Assignable) Yes
IR Serial Remote In/Out 2 In / 1 Out
Multi-Zone On-Screen Display Yes (Zone 2)
Network Firmware Update Ethernet / USB
PC Set-Up With Remote Maintenance
IP Control for CI
PreAmp Mode Yes
Versatile Speaker Configuration 7 Mode (Bi-Amp / Zone 2 / B-Speaker / Surround Back / Front Height / Front Width)
FL Dimmer
Function Rename
Remote Learning
Sleep Timer
Detachable Power Cord

Front Panel Aluminum (Hairline)
Transformer Stabilizer
Advanced Direct Construction
Large Speaker Terminals All

Warranty 3 Years

W x H x D (inches) 17.13 x 7.28 x 17.36
Weight 33.29 lbs
jedi.master.dre's Avatar jedi.master.dre
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Here are a few pictures of the units:

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Here is a link to the Future Shop Canada "Pioneer Top Of The Line AV HD Network Receiver Line Review"
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Here is a link to a summary 5:23 video uploaded from Pioneer Electronics:

...and a review from audioholics:
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I am setting up my new SC-1527-K and I have my theatre room wired and speakers placed for 9.1 based on the Yamaha presence speaker placement. I am trying to determine which speaker terminals to use for my presence speakers on this unit. It seems that DSX stresses width and Dolby Digital stresses height. The placement of my speakers is both high and wide in comparison to the front mains.

Here is an image pretty close to what I have:

I am leaning towards height I think because this unit uses mostly Dolby surround modes for 9.1. From the Dolby site:

"By adding front height channels, Dolby Pro Logic IIz creates a 7.1 or 9.1 playback system that enhances the spaciousness of music, movies, and video games, bringing a new dimension to surround sound listening. An additional pair of speakers located above the front left and right speakers enables Dolby Pro Logic IIz to introduce a vertical component to the horizontal soundfield of a conventional 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound system."

Any opinions on whether I should wire them as front wide or front height?
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The wides or height will be a matrix sound. Dialogue is from the center, so which ever you prefer. I use front height.
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Hey guys, does anyone know how Pioneer gauges it's volume? I've only ever had Denon receiver's, and I have my SC-1527-K set to -12, as I did with my Denon 3801 that just kicked the bucket, but the output is much lower. -12 was the same loudness on my 3801 and the 3808 I also have. It was really my threshold for both (the 3801 was connected to my computer, so I set the receiver to -12 and adjusted the volume on my computer), but as aforementioned, the Pio's output isn't even close at the same volume rating. I know each receiver brand varies, but this is quite a substantial difference.

Also, I'm currently only using the SC-1527-K in a two channel setup.

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I own an SC-65 for almost 2 weeks and I am pretty familiarized with the operation of thi unit. However, I have an issue and I believe it has to do with HDMI (cable or reciever?). See, I can not play FLAC music files within a program running on my Home theater computer. The hdmi out 1 is being used to the tv. I see the video but no sound. The receiver is set to DVD HDMI. Now, here is the funny part... When the HDMI output is switched from out 1 to out 2, then and only then can I hear sound BUT NOOO video. I have run through all the options for settigns and can not seem to get video and audio together using this piece of software called JRIVER.

this is a repost
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Originally Posted by Quadcam99 View Post

Hey guys, does anyone know how Pioneer gauges it's volume? I've only ever had Denon receiver's, and I have my SC-1527-K set to -12, as I did with my Denon 3801 that just kicked the bucket, but the output is much lower. -12 was the same loudness on my 3801 and the 3808 I also have. It was really my threshold for both (the 3801 was connected to my computer, so I set the receiver to -12 and adjusted the volume on my computer), but as aforementioned, the Pio's output isn't even close at the same volume rating. I know each receiver brand varies, but this is quite a substantial difference.
Also, I'm currently only using the SC-1527-K in a two channel setup.

I saw this topic discussed in either the SC-61/63 owner forum or the SC-67/68 owner forum. Suggest you look there and search on "volume control" or something similar if you don't get an answer here.
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My amazon review of the pioneer elite sc-65

5.0 out of 5 stars The Pioneer Elite SC-65 is one amazing receiver sure to please!

This review is from: Pioneer Elite SC-65 9.2 Channel THX® Select 2 Plus A/V Receiver (Electronics)
The new 3D ready Pioneer Elite SC-65 elite receiver is nothing short of spectacular. This top of the line receiver is sure to satisfy even the most hardcore audiophiles. After constantly using the SC-65 for the past 3 months, I can say I am very happy with it. What I like most about the system is the integration with apple products. You can be listening to a song or album on your mac, iphone, or ipad and use the airplay feature to stream it directly to the receiver if you have it set up on the same internet network. If you download the pioneer iControAV2012 app you can use it on your iphone, ipad, or ipod touch to control almost any feature on the pioneer receiver. I still love the fact I can turn the receiver on and control almost any feature from anywhere in the house with the app. The picture and sound quality are some of the absolute best from any receiver I have used or tested. I am using it with a last generation Pioneer Kuro Elite and the picture is truly jaw dropping. The video conversion gives you the best picture from anything you connect to it. You also get Pandora radio, Sirius Radio, and Vtuner radio which offers thousands of radio stations from across the world. This receiver also supports 4K pass through (also known as 4K2K or Ultra High Defenition) which is the new high definition format expected to eventually replace 1080p. With 1080p TVs you have a resolution of 1920x1080 pixels thus the p at the end. With 4K you get 3840x2160 pixels resulting in an even much better picture than 1080p. Think of it as kind of a retina display on a ipad or iphone where the pixels are almost impossible to see resulting in a much clearer picture. Now 4K TVs are barely coming out now and are ridiculously expensive starting at over twenty grand, but will eventually drop to a reasonable price range in a few years. The first 4K2K blu-rays or Ultra Def blu-rays are expected to hit the market sometime in 2013. So with the 4K passthrough not only are you future proofing yourself, but you will be getting the absolute best quality that will even rival the best movie theaters. For some reason the UK version of pioneers website has much more detailed information and great videos on this model although their model number is SC-LX56-K and its the same receiver minus the elite branding.[...]

UPDATE 11/26/2012 Amazon deleted all the video links I posted which is why you will see the (...)

If you bought this receiver before November 26th, 2012 there is a new update available on pioneers website, or you can download it directly from the receiver through the update software option if you have it connected to the internet via ethernet cable or the wifi adapter. This update now offers support for HTC Connect, Improves the stability of HDMI connection, and other improvement.

Coming winter of 2012 pioneer will release another update for this receiver. The new firmware update to add support for Apple Lossless, AIFF and gapless playback. Apple Lossless - Apple Lossless (also known as ALAC) file format allows the exact data to be reconstructed from the compressed data. AIFF Files - AIFF files store and transmit uncompressed professional-level audio data. Gapless Playback - Gapless playback improves the listening experience by providing the user with uninterrupted playback of consecutive audio tracks. Gapless playback is particularly useful with music tracks that are meant to play continuously, without a break, such as classical music, progressive rock, concept albums or live recordings with audience sounds between track

There are so many things that this receiver does that its hard to list them all, but I will go over some of my favorite ones. I have also posted video links explaining in better detail what some of the features that this Pioneer SC-65 receiver has. You will also get all the specs courtesy of pioneers website. Hope this review is informative and helps you make a better informed decision.

This Direct Energy HD Amp with Class D operates at extraordinary output levels with extremely low distortion and virtually no wasted energy. Signal paths are 25% lower than with the previous model, and power consumption is effectively decreased by up to 44% versus analogue amp models. The result is audio so rich, so dense, and so completely engrossing that even the leading traditional analogue amps can't come close.

The MCACC speaker calibration is a great tool that adjusts adjusts each speaker's virtual size, level, distance, and response to precision-tune the system to your room. [...] For a video on this feature go to youtube and type in Pioneer AV Receivers - MCACC

Advanced Sound Retriever restores WMA/MP3/AAC files that are compressed thus improving the overall sound. For people like myself that stream music from their computers, iphones, and ipads this improves the sound from those compressed files.
[...] For a video on this feature go to youtube and type Pioneer AV receivers - Auto Sound Retriever

Hi-Bit 32 processing Maximum sound performance from digital sources is gained by applying Hi-bit 32 Audio Signal Processing to expand signal resolution, creating more detailed, smooth sound, closer to the original analogue signal.. It is effective for multi-channel content on DVD/Blu-ray Disc as well as CD audio, and works with any disc player.
[...] For a video on this feature go to youtube and type Pioneer AV receivers - Hi-bit 32

Stream Smoother improves videos from portable devices or streamed content over your internet. Streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, apple tv, amazon video and youtube have a lower bit-rate which can cause video artifacts and noise on your screen resulting in a decreased picture. Stream smoother improves the picture quality of network content streamed over the internet. You can rest assured your getting the absolute best picture quality.[...] For a video on this feature go to youtube and type Pioneer AV receivers - Advanced Video Adjust and Stream Smoother

Full band phase control uses automatic measurements during the MCACC calibration Phase Control manages the time and phase response of the speakers to minimize the effect of additional sound delays, usually due to the filtering process of multi-channel recordings. By combining our AV receivers and speakers that support Phase Control, multi-channel sound is reproduced faithful to the original source. [...] For a video on this feature go to youtube and type Pioneer AV Receivers - Full Band Phase Control

What's included in the box

Class D3 Amplification
Channels: 9.2
130 W/ch (1kHz, THD .08% @ 8 ohm)
720 W All Channel Driven Power Output (1kHz, 1% THD, @ 8 ohms)
4 Ohm Speaker Compatible (no Current Limiting)
THX® Select 2 Plus
Dolby® TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby® Pro Logic® IIz
DTS-HD® Master Audio, DTS-ES, DTS® Neo:X - 9.1 Channel Surround
Digital Core Engine with Texas Instruments Aureus(tm) DSP
Hi-bit32 (96kHz) Audio and Jitter reduction
192 kHz/32-bit DAC's
Digital Filter Slow Mode (192kHz)
HDMI Audio Return Channel
Pioneer Advanced MCACC® Room Calibration
· 3D Time Axis Measurement
· Polarity Check
· Automatic Crossover Detection
· Reverb Before and After Calibration Results (OSD, AVNavigator,
· and iControlAV2012)
· Standing Wave Control
Pioneer Sound Enhancements
· Full Band Phase Control
· Auto Phase Control Plus/Phase Control Plus
· PQLS Bit-stream/Multi-Surround/2ch
· Sound Retriever Link
· Advanced Auto Sound Retriever (Multi-ch, ARC, AIR)
· Advanced Surround (15 + 1 Modes)
· Wide Surround Movie & Music
· Front Stage Surround Advance (Wide/Focus)
· Headphones Surround
· Virtual Speaker (Wide/Height/Depth/Surround Back)
HDMI 8 In / 2 Out
4k2k Passthrough
3D Ready (Blu-ray DiscTM, Broadcast, and Games)
Deep Color (36-bit), x.v. Color
1080p/24fps Scaler with Qdeo(tm)
1080p Transferring
Video Conversion to HDMI
Triple HD Noise Reduction
Advanced Video Adjust
Stream Smoother
Stream Smoother Link
AirPlay Compatible
DLNA Certified® (1.5)
Front MHL® Connect
Compatible with Windows® 7
Music File Playback via LAN/USB (WAV, MP3, WMA, AAC, FLAC)
· 192 kHz/24-Bit Audio playback (WAV, FLAC)
SiriusXM(tm) Internet Radio*
Pandora® INTERNET Radio**
Internet Radio with vTuner®
Convenience Features
iPod Digital Transmission via Front USB Terminal
Charges iPod/iPhone/iPad, USB & Video Cable Supplied
iControlAV2012 Remote Control App Ready
· AV receiver and Blu-ray Disc player control from smartphone
· Sound Explorer
Air Jam App*** Ready (iOS/Android) (optional AS-BT200 adapter required)
· Share music and create playlists via Bluetooth connection
Wireless LAN Converter Ready (optional AS-WL300 required)
Aluminum Chassis
Auto Power Down
Power Save for HDMI Standby Through
AM/FM Tuner 63 Presets
Sleep Timer
Learning Remote Control (Luminous)
Zone 2 AV and Zone 3 Analog Audio Out
Firmware Update via Internet or USB
PC Set-Up with Remote IP Maintenance
AVNavigator for easy wiring and setup with PC or iPad
Graphic User Interface (GUI) with Album Artwork (HDMI only)
Detachable Power Cord
IR In x 2, IR Out x 1
12v Trigger x 2
11.2 Channel Preouts
Preout Mode
Zone Volume, Tone, and Balance
HDMI 7 In / 2 Out
Ethernet 1 In
AV (Composite) 4 In/1 Out
Audio 1 In (assignable)
Digital Coaxial 2 In (assignable)
Digital Optical 2 In (assignable)
Component Video 2 In (assignable)
Monitor Component 1 Out
Monitor Composite 1 Out
Zone 2 Analog Out with Zone 2
Subwoofer Out
Zone 3 Preouts
Dual Subwoofer Out
Bluetooth Adapter Port for AS-BT200
USB Charge Port for AS-WL300 Wireless Converter
IR In x 2, IR Out x 1
12v Trigger x 2, RS232
HDMI 1 In (assignable/ MHL)
USB/iPod Video In
Headphone Out
Power Requirements: AC 120 V/60 Hz
Estimated Power Consumption: 330 W
Standby Power Consumption: 0.1 W Standby
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I'm not an owner yet, but I've got a question.
The manual indicates that the SC-XX does not down-convert audio from the various digital input sources for use on the ZONE outputs.
If all my sources are connected via HDMI and I want to connect wireless headphones to this receiver utilizing one of the Zone outputs, do I need to additionally add L/R analog audio cables from all my sources?
This method allows me power on the system and use a remote to listen or not via headphones.
I didn't want to use the headphone jack, as this disables sound from the speakers and who wants to be fiddling with plugging/unplugging cables every night when kiddies go to sleep.
Is there a better way to connect headphones?
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To answer my own question, maybe all I need is to purchase a low cost HDE RCA A/V Adapter Cable for XBOX 360 or Gen RCA
Audio Cable Adapter for XBOX 360 and plug it into the HDMI ZONE output.
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Hi Everyone,

I just got new Elite SC-65 and was surprised it is much lighter in weight than my previous 7 years old Elite VSX-36TX
In anyway, I plugged it in for the first time and have annoying buzzing noise coming from the top left. I am concern that it will interfere with my experience in the room because I completely isolated it from any possible surrounding noise and none of my other equipment make any noise.
I wonder if anyone has this noise or whether I got defective unit...?

Thank you,
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No such buzz on my sc-65. I'd suggest you return it if you're hearing a noticeable buzz.
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New to the site, so if i'm making an error posting here please let me know.

I have an SC-65 and am having a problem with using zone 2 preout with a sonamp amp to power my speakers. I have too many speakers in my house for the existing speaker terminals on the sc65 that is why i'm using the sonamp. I have the sonamp sonance amp connected with RCA cables to the zone 2 out on the 65 and my speakers are connected into the amp. I'm not getting any sound out of the speakers.

For testing purposes I attached a self powered speaker to the zone 2 outputs on the tuner and get no sound there either. Even with this test at this point I'm unsure if the receiver is not outputting sound or if the sonamp is not working.

Hoping i'm missing a step on the zone 2 setup that someone here may know. I've re-read the manual multiple times to no affect. Thanks for any help.
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Hello everyone! I a happy camper with my SC-65! The Hi-Bit 32 scaling is awesome! It allows me to rediscover my music library, like if it were brand new!

Since I'm a DIY kind of a guy, I am searching for a Service Manual? With schematic diagrams?

I've been ridiculed on diyAudio for sharing my passion about Pioneer, but who really cares? wink.gif

Here's my intro which might as well serve here as well?
Kool Audio Designs and/or Kind And Dedicated and/or Kick Ass Dude? Maybe all and more?

Well I got the upgradeitis bug at a young age. Around nine, my mom brought me back a 25-in-1 electronic kit where one could build 25 projects with various parts, spring loaded no less. She was attending a conference in Vancouver, when she returned to Montreal; what a gift! She planted the seed for my passion towards electronics, mathematics, science, especially computer sciences.

However as a hobby, I always return to electronics and audio, I don’t know why?

So as a dinosaur from the seventies, I had the opportunity to build a few of these:
- Dynakit ST70 tube amp
- Heathkit AR-29 receiver
- Heathkit AA-1640 amp
- Heathkit speakers (I forget the model)
- SWTPC 202-C Headset Amplifier
- SWTPC Psychedelia 1 and Psychedelia 2 color organs
- SWTPC 198/A preamp
- SWTPC Tiger .01 amps
- SWTPC Tigersaurus 250 amps
- SWTPC Dynamic Range Expander
- SWTPC Guitar and Instrument preamp
- SWTPC Stereo Octave Equalizer
- SWTPC Stereo Compressor-Expander

In addition to loads of other stuff:
Oscilloscopes, function generators, AF & RF generators, signal tracers, EICO tube tester, EICO Variac, then went into computers hardware & software & real-time embedded electronics.

My current home theater is composed of:
- Pioneer Elite SC-65, Pioneer Elite SC-61, Pioneer Elite VSX-27TX, Pioneer Elite VSX-95 receivers (mainly for the bi-amps, except the SC-65 with its Hi-Bit 32-bit upscaling of audio signals. Wow what a difference it makes!)
- Pioneer SX-1250 receiver
- Rotel 400 W amp
- Pioneer Elite Pro-510HD HDTV
- Samsung UN55ES7100F HDTV
- Pioneer HPM 150 main and Pioneer HPM100 rear speakers
- Bob Carver’s True Subwoofer MKii
- Sunfire TS-EQ12 subwoofer
- Celestion Ditton 66 surround
- Celestion Ditton 100 (4) of them center
- Energy Veritas (Klipsh) Dolby height
- Design Accoustics PS88 Dolby wide
- Technics SBA-11 XL & XR
- Technics SP1400 MK2 + AudioTechnica cartridge
- Oracle / Lynn tonearm / Grado cartridge
- DBX dynamic range expander

Plus various ribbon tweeters, dome midrange horn loaded titanium 2” voice coil 96 oz magnet (on the midrange), and a smorgasbord of tweaks, enhancements etc… All bi-tri-amplified with custom-built precision active 3rd order butterworth crossovers, hence the need for so many amps. Now I’m pushing over 10,000 watts RMS continuous not for loudness, but for transient peaks, clarity, definition, low-distortion, and all the right reasons. 5700 W RMS just for (2) subwoofers resulting in 120+ dB @ 16Hz with very little distortion. A compass would be disoriented at my house. And it sounds just right! Onto anything, be it classical, jazz, rock, or dub-step. Movies are awesome. What I like about it, is that it sounds so different with each source of input.

A Windows 8 Pro / MediaCenter kick ass HTPC with ultra-low-signal-to-noise ratio served by a media/file server based on Windows Server 2012 are the computer tidbits.

It is only now that I realize the mistake of selling most of my precious SWTPC equipment to long time gone friends 40 years ago…

So I stumbled onto these dyiAudio forums, while searching for a schematic to the SWTPC #202-C Headset class A amp. Yeah, I realized how atrocious a .FLAC sounded on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus phone via my Sony XBA-3 earbuds, when it should have sounded so sweet… Simply plugging them into the Pioneer Elite VS-65 was an eye opener! Mainly due to the 32-bit upscaling I suppose? So now I need to build an ultra-linear high-performance low-distortion headphone amp… Sure I could buy one, but why? I like to tinker. And I think I’m in good company here. To learn and share and have fun.

All the best everyone!

The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of knowledge and it becomes another's, smile at someone and receive a smile in return, are to me continual spiritual exercises.
~ Leo Buscaglia

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PIONEER SC 65 Apple lossless, AIFF and gapless playback update NOW available on Pioneer website!

Please note pioneer doesnt mention anything about the new UPDATE you have to click on firmware/software update and click on firmware change change history to see its available then SC-65 Firmware Update to process the update. Not sure why Pioneer is being so secretive. I tested out the ALAC (apple lossless) and AIFF and they sound amazing!

Ver 1-203-084-513-160
- Support the following features.
1. Support Apple lossless file
2. Support AIFF file
3. Support gapless play feature
- iPod nano connectivity improvement.
- Other improvement.

- The setting for Favorite, Account information(SiriusXM/Pandora) and Airjam reset to the factory
default after the update. (Receiver which is updated from Ver 1-197-084-512-153 is not initialized.)
Write down these settings before the update as they may need to be set up again.
- This version is not available via the Internet.
Please use an update file which is downloaded from PIONEER website. And please download via USB memory to
update your receiver to the latest version.
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I just bought an SC-65 and I love it. I finally figured out that I needed to set my BD player to play HD audio. Now the only issue I have that I cannot figure out is why when I am watching satelite TV (DirecTV) when I change between channels the delay is like 5-10 seconds. It sort of drives me insane. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry, I am new to the forum but have enjoyed everyone's comments!

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i have an update to my issue. 1, the dip switches on my amp were not set correctly, although the manual said to do them one way, it was the opposite on the dir dip switch that fixed it. On the receiver side i had to set the speaker setup to 9.1ch setting not 7.1 ch +zone2 to get output from the zone 2 pre outs. Now I'm trying to get airplay to work. My sc-65 does not show on my apple devices to select for airplay.
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01-24-2013 | Posts: 3
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All your sources that are hdmi will not down convert to analog. I have an sc-65 and just went thru this. You have to do rca cables from your devices to the tuner to get analog output to zone 2. This is with using an amp from the preouts for zone 2. The volume level from the rca connected devices is low as well, i'm working on that currently as the 65 has a lot of volume level controls.
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02-09-2013 | Posts: 1
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surfbro11 - Having the same problem as you - Trying to set up multiple zones - one for my home theater and one for speakers in my kitchen and a set of outdoor speakers. Having to run RCA cables is a drag - Not all of my devices have an RCA output (Apple TV). I have the kitchen speakers going directly to the surround back (Zone 2) terminals on the receiver and that works fine, but I have the outdoor speakers connected to a seperate amp attached to the Zone 2 outputs on the receiver and the volume is really low, even with the amp cranked up to near max volume. Wondering if you have found a solution to that as of yet...
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02-14-2013 | Posts: 1
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My new sc1527k receiver worked great for 1week! Now when I watch tv using the video processing to up convert the video signal the picture will go off and on every 5min foa couple of seconds, there will be sound but no picture for a couple of seconds! Does my new unit have a flaw or is this a common problem?
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02-16-2013 | Posts: 50
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Just jumped shipped from my Yamaha 667 + Parasound HCA-1205A combo to the SC-65 and i LOVE IT. Except the remote... (I wonder how Touchsquid would handle it)

In anycase, SQ is outstanding and its just as robust sounding as the 1205A. What really blew my mind was the channel separation post MCACC; the difference was substantial vs the Yamaha setup. Im using it to power these fronts (Definitive SM55, B&W CM5, Ascend Sierra-1s, ML Motion 15s, switched via an Adcom speaker switcher) for music and with different saved MCACC settings for each pair, and i dont know if ill be looking back @ separates.

My question is, what digital filters do yall like to use for music and movies?
GregLee's Avatar GregLee
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02-16-2013 | Posts: 3,252
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Originally Posted by Amadayo View Post

Now the only issue I have that I cannot figure out is why when I am watching satelite TV (DirecTV) when I change between channels the delay is like 5-10 seconds.
Try this on your DirecTV unit: Go to Settings > Display > Video > Native and set this to "Off". This tells the DirecTV receiver to handle the conversion among different picture modes itself, instead of passing the original signals along to the AVR and TV.
GregLee's Avatar GregLee
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02-21-2013 | Posts: 3,252
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I just got my SC-1522-K three days ago. It's my information that this is substantially the same hardware as the models in the title of this thread, SC-65/SC-1527-K. It would be nice if my model number could be added to the thread title.

I still have to finish my hooking up, and I haven't yet run MCACC, but so far, so good. I have three 4ohm speakers in front, Axiom M80s and VP180 center, and they sound just fine. I did a network update just now, and my software version is now 1-197-084-512-124. I understand there might be a newer firmware version available, but I'm going to hold off on that for now.

The only thing so far that hasn't worked for me is setting up the remote to control my Samsung TV and my DirecTV satellite receiver. But since I prefer to use my DirecTV remote, anyhow, this is not urgent to get working.
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03-11-2013 | Posts: 141
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First, here are my components:
Sony BDP-S590 Blu-Ray player
Panasonic PT-AE4000 Projector
Pioneer SC-65 Receiver
Monoprice HDMI to CAT5 converter, roughly 50' run.

I just got my SC-65 this weekend to replace an Onkyo 605 that recently died. I set it up and watched Looper on Blu-Ray Saturday night. Everything worked fine. On Sunday morning I ran MCACC, and after calibration I watched the end of "The Matrix" and the intro of "Lord of the Rings: Fellowship..." on DVD. Everything was fine, and sounded great, so I programmed my Harmony universal remote for the new receiver.
Sunday night I used the Harmony remote to turn on the projector, Blu-Ray player and the receiver. A couple minutes after turning on, the picture started flashing snow for a few ms several times per minute. I unplugged the HDMI-out cable from the receiver and plugged it back in, and then the picture was tinged completely red and still flashing.
I connected the Blu-Ray player player directly up to the projector, and everything was fine. I went back to the receiver and still had the red picture with flashing snow. I switched to the second HDMI output on the receiver and the red went away, but I still had flashing snow. I restarted each component one at a time, and still had the problem.
It seems to be a HDCP handshake problem, but it's strange that the symptoms are different depending on which HDMI-out I use on the receiver. Is my receiver defective? Could it be caused by the start up order in the Harmony remote? I really don't want to have to go through the hassle of exchanging the receiver (online order, cross-country) if there is any way to avoid it.
Any other troubleshooting advice would be appreciated.
GregLee's Avatar GregLee
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03-11-2013 | Posts: 3,252
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Originally Posted by nickmo View Post

..., and then the picture was tinged completely red ...
I'm not having a problem, but my SC-1522-K does have a strange affinity for red that may be connected with hdmi handshake. When I download software onto my DirecTV DVR, the DVR turns off, then comes back on with an orange-ish red progress screen, instead of the purplish screen I expect (and still see on my other DirecTV DVR, in a different room, but of exactly the same model).
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03-11-2013 | Posts: 141
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After playing around with the system for an hour or so, I think I've found a way to work around the handshake/flashing snow problem. If I toggle video conversion from one setting to the other the flashing will stop. It doesn't matter if it is on or off, just that I change it from one to the other. Also, if I switch it to on, and the snow goes away, but then I make a change in the conversion settings, the flashing will come back.
It seems that toggling video conversion or making changes to it forces the video out controller to handshake again. It's fast and I usually only have to toggle it once. I'm going to order a long HDMI cable to bypass my HDMI-to-CAT6 converter to see if that fixes the problem permanently. If not, I guess the receiver is going to have to go back.
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03-11-2013 | Posts: 8,733
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you might want to consider Blue Jeans Cable, Series I for the long run. It works at very long lengths...I'm at 50 ft + 12 more ft of their Series 2 for player to AVR and AVR to wall plate. No balun & cat 5/6 conversion or signal booster needed.
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03-14-2013 | Posts: 1
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Anyone know how to manually adjust the EQ? Ive heard you can adjust it through the Iphone app, however, my receiver is not connected to the internet. I'm missing the good ole days when I had bass, mid, and treble knobs on the front of the receiver...
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