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Old 01-01-2013, 11:44 AM - Thread Starter
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Hey everyone!

I recently received a Denon AVR-1613 receiver with the Energy Take Classic 5.1 home theater system, and so far I am pretty disappointed, but I think it quite honestly is my fault.

If someone could simply run me through what kind of crossover settings work best, that would be great. I'm not getting the bass I was hoping for out of this system. I know Audyssey can be kind of crappy with subwoofer setup, so I have been trying to tweak the settings myself, but nothing is working.

Any help is appreciated!
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Audyssey MultEQ in the 1613 is actually quite good with sub EQ. You would be best served reviewing the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig for suggestions on how to get the best out of Audyssey to include using either a mic boom stand or camera tripod to support the mic.

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I have the 1713 multeq-xt and the take classic system and am very impressed in a somewhat larger room (16 x 25). Plenty of bass. I turned my volume level on the sub up to halfway/12 o'clock, turned power on (not auto), and set phase to 0 then ran audyssey. It set my crossovers on the front, center, and surrounds to 80/90/80 respectively. I moved them up to 110 as the take classics are only rated to go that low or so the manufacturer claims. I'm going to play around with them and try them on a movie at the 80/90/80 and see.
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I recently received a Denon AVR-1613 receiver with the Energy Take Classic 5.1 home theater system, and so far I am pretty disappointed, but I think it quite honestly is my fault.

You also may not be happy because you need bigger speakers for your setup instead of little satellites.

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I have the 1713 multeq-xt and the take classic system and am very impressed in a somewhat larger room (16 x 25). Plenty of bass. I turned my volume level on the sub up to halfway/12 o'clock, turned power on (not auto), and set phase to 0 then ran audyssey. It set my crossovers on the front, center, and surrounds to 80/90/80 respectively. I moved them up to 110 as the take classics are only rated to go that low or so the manufacturer claims. I'm going to play around with them and try them on a movie at the 80/90/80 and see.

What they spec out on paper and how they respond in your own home can be different.

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What they spec out on paper and how they respond in your own home can be different.
True I did read that as well. I think the best way is to use my ears! All the tech talk is a great starting point.

I do have a question though. After setting sub to max 150 to run audyssey do I leave it there after audyssey is complete ? Or turn back to a manufacturer recommended 110? Or does it not matter since denon individual x-over is set via audyssey? I do hear some localization on voices through the sub when x-over is set to 150
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You also may not be happy because you need bigger speakers for your setup instead of little satellites.
They're not that bad.... Htib's are some peoples only and sometimes preferred choice. Blasphemy to some, bliss to others :-)
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Trouble with sub

Hey all. Excuse my ignorance, but I have this exact same setup and am getting no sound from my sub whatsoever. I was confused by the fact that there is only one RCA sub input on the back of the receiver with two RCA line ins, plus independent versus "auto" power on the sub and also other spots for speaker wire inputs. Currently have all speakers connected to the receiver and bought a two-to-one adapter for RCA. After thinking I finally had this thing solved, sub puts out no sound. Any help?
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Single cable from reciever to LFE IN. Make sure you have the sub "on" or auto, this will turn it on when signal is recieved. Check settings in your reciever to make sure it knows a sub is present.


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Hey all. Excuse my ignorance, but I have this exact same setup and am getting no sound from my sub whatsoever. I was confused by the fact that there is only one RCA sub input on the back of the receiver with two RCA line ins, plus independent versus "auto" power on the sub and also other spots for speaker wire inputs. Currently have all speakers connected to the receiver and bought a two-to-one adapter for RCA. After thinking I finally had this thing solved, sub puts out no sound. Any help?
The dual inputs are more for the few setups that are using left and right line outs, but all you need is one unless you're short on signal then sometimes the dual inputs gives you an additional 6dB of gain. The speaker level inputs are on the sub in the case where you have no line-outs at all to use. If your sub is connected from the sub pre-out with the splitter you should still be okay but you should be good with a single rca cable, too. Where do you have the gain set on the sub? Does your receiver not recognize it all for the auto Audyssey setup? If you got beyond that then make sure your speakers are set to small or that you're in a sound mode that uses the sub....
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Hey all. Excuse my ignorance, but I have this exact same setup and am getting no sound from my sub whatsoever. I was confused by the fact that there is only one RCA sub input on the back of the receiver with two RCA line ins, plus independent versus "auto" power on the sub and also other spots for speaker wire inputs. Currently have all speakers connected to the receiver and bought a two-to-one adapter for RCA. After thinking I finally had this thing solved, sub puts out no sound. Any help?
Determine if the issue is with the Denon 1613 or the sub or the sub cable by pulling the cable from the 1613's sub pre-out jack and rubbing your finger over the tip while the sub is powered on. Hear static? If yes, that means the sub and cable are ok, otherwise if no, then either the sub or the cable itself may be defective. If the sub and cable are confirmed working properly, have you run Audyssey to properly configure the sub? If the subwoofer level was set to -12db, that means the sub gain/volume knob is set to high and should be lowered a few notches (eg. to 9 o'clock instead of 12 o'clock as is recommended in the Denon Owner's manual). After running Audyssey, you want the subwoofer level to be set somewhere around -5db which you'll then likely want to raise 3-5db higher (ie. closer to 0db) as most owners find the bass response too weak after running Audyssey. With the subwoofer level now set closer to 0db, this will also ensure the signal from the 1613 is strong enough to power the sub on if you have it set to "AUTO."

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