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Time to get some of these with 98 db sensativity
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/waveguide-speaker-kits/fusion12-kit.html
I have gone to waveguides with high sensativity and will never go back smile.gif
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About what?
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About what?
About the "time to get these speakers" remark, obviously. To put it mildly, my Canton Vento 890.2 DCs blow them away all day long and twice on Sunday.
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About what?
About the "time to get these speakers" remark, obviously. To put it mildly, my Canton Vento 890.2 DCs blow them away all day long and twice on Sunday.

In what regard? Have you owned both? The canton may sound good but based on specs it doesn't appear they will play nearly as loud as the fusion speakers.
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So, $6k speakers are better than $500 speakers? Get the **** out!
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About what?
About the "time to get these speakers" remark, obviously. To put it mildly, my Canton Vento 890.2 DCs blow them away all day long and twice on Sunday.

If you use them for music then yes I am sure they will beat my seos speakers. For movies nope. Your little tweeter on those will not be able to handle 110 dbs without compressing the sound. The soundstage will also not be as wide since your not using directional based speakers . I don't care if you spent 20 grand. The parts on those Canton speakers are only worth around 1-1.5 k. There designed for music.
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.. as close to the rew settings as you can get.
REW version b18 will generate the PEQ filters for the UMC-200.
See : http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/rew-forum/47461-v5-10-beta-release-asio-support-43.html#post668288
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Your right. :thumbup:
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Wow am I glad I saw this post. It seems you had the luxury of having your speakers already in place and used to them before adding the Emo combo, I was using my speakers and umc 200 for the first time together and man did the emoq throw me for a loop! Sucked the mids & lows out is an understatement!

For music it is the most terrible experience I have ever had, but the strange thing is for movies it works great, What I did was let the emoq do its thing for movies, and when I listen to music I set emoq to flat and run my outboard EQ's and my music is great. I bypass my outboard eq's when watching movies, in fact I turn the Eq's off.


Yup, here are some of my updated replies though. (cliff notes is that I found a setting a liked, after running a few times, setting the mic on the recliner and me not being in the room during the test)

post #482

post #492

post #496

Also, it's good to see this thread have some activity! The UMC-200 is the one part in my system where I know it could sound better if I do more research and try more settings. And this forum/thread is where I do most of my research, lol.

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^^^ try this setting
Go to one of the three manual settings and try this for your mains ,

82 hz +3
95 hz +2.5
125hz + 2.5
300hz - 1.5
450hz -1
800hz +1
1.7k +2
3k +2
5k +2.5

Yes its a typical house curve. Q between 6-12. Switch from your setting to this and see if you like it. I use my inuke3000 dsp to eq my sub. It does a much better job then emo with its 7 bands .
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Yup, here are some of my updated replies though. (cliff notes is that I found a setting a liked, after running a few times, setting the mic on the recliner and me not being in the room during the test)

post #482

post #492

post #496

Also, it's good to see this thread have some activity! The UMC-200 is the one part in my system where I know it could sound better if I do more research and try more settings. And this forum/thread is where I do most of my research, lol.


Thanks for the update.....I still find with my 31 band eq's I have more control and will be able to dial it in much better once everything is setup permanently in the HT.

Have a Happy and safe New Year!!!
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^^^ you deaf yet from those bass cannons yet ? tongue.gif
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What? I can't hear ya! wink.gif

I had the wife yell at me once...she was trying to sleep on the other side of the house, I told her it was urapnes & LTD02's fault biggrin.gif

Seriously though, lovin every minute with them, thanks for asking smile.gif

Have a Happy and safe New Year!!!
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If you use them for music then yes I am sure they will beat my seos speakers. For movies nope. Your little tweeter on those will not be able to handle 110 dbs without compressing the sound. The soundstage will also not be as wide since your not using directional based speakers . I don't care if you spent 20 grand. The parts on those Canton speakers are only worth around 1-1.5 k. There designed for music.
If only you had a clue. biggrin.gif
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If you use them for music then yes I am sure they will beat my seos speakers. For movies nope. Your little tweeter on those will not be able to handle 110 dbs without compressing the sound. The soundstage will also not be as wide since your not using directional based speakers . I don't care if you spent 20 grand. The parts on those Canton speakers are only worth around 1-1.5 k. There designed for music.
If only you had a clue. biggrin.gif

I used to be like you with b&w speakers . Then I saw the light with pro audio style. I also have better woodworking skills then the dudes making the cantons. Why pay 4-5 k in markup when you don't have to. I love customizing with the peq of the umc200
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I used to be like you with b&w speakers .
There is quite a big difference between Bowers & Wilkins and Canton.
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Then I saw the light with pro audio style.
Although I agree a lot of "boutique" gear happens to be terribly overpriced for the performance you get, there are a few exceptions nevertheless, and all pro gear is not necessarily all that special either. This might help to explain why my system contains both pro gear AND high quality Hi-Fi gear.
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I also have better woodworking skills then the dudes making the cantons.
Even if you did, it wouldn't make a whole lot of difference anyway because the speaker cabinets of my Canton Vento 890.2 DCs are aluminum. wink.gif
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Why pay 4-5 k in markup when you don't have to.
Nobody has to do anything, it's a free world. I always love it when people blow smoke on the internet, it makes for solid entertainment.. biggrin.gif
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I love customizing with the peq of the umc200
And don't we all? I mean, I already mentioned earlier in the thread the fact I also own an UMC-200, so what exactly is your point?
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I would like to see Emotiva succeed as well. But for me the UMC-200 and UMC-500 do not offer the features that I'm looking for. The XMC-1 has my interest but only if TacT is as good if not better than XT32. The ongoing delay of the XMC-1s release has me thinking that implementing TacT in a $1500 prepro is more challenging than originally thought.

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Are they using TACT? I thought they where using DIRAC or is TACT and DIRAC the same thing?
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Are they using TACT? I thought they where using DIRAC or is TACT and DIRAC the same thing?
They were kind of forced away from TacT because it was technically impossible to fit into the XMC-1 without making major modifications so they finally decided to go for Dirac Live instead. The official word from Big Dan is it will be made in USA and it will ship with HDMI 2.0 instead of HDMI 1.4.

[UPDATE] -- A word about HDMI 2.0 and the XMC-1...
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quick question....

I don't plan on using the on screen display initially...

Can all the parameters be accessed through the units own display, as far as setup, speaker levels, distance, crossover, etc.?

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Yes, but have the manual nearby to decipher. Otherwise it'll be a PITA.
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Yes, but have the manual nearby to decipher ...
Instead of using the UMC-200 manual, use the Fusion 8100 instead, it's much more complete.
The platform is exactly the same: https://emotiva.com/resources/manual...manual_v10.pdf
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thanks for the 8100 manual tip!
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I'm considering the migration from a Rotel RSP-1068 to the UMC-200. How does this sound for 2ch music comparatively? Is there adjustments for levels given different input types (DTS vs Dolby vs PCM)? I've read a few reviews and it sounds like a great little box with a few HDMI handshaking issues.

Has anybody made a similar migration that favors 2ch quality over 5.1 or 7.1 quality?

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Is there adjustments for levels given different input types (DTS vs Dolby vs PCM)?
No.

More UMC-200 information: "Official" Emotiva UMC-200 Thread

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No.

More UMC-200 information: "Official" Emotiva UMC-200 Thread
I'm pretty sure that it does Markus. If you look in the playback sub menu(I think) it shows levels for each of the formats that you can adjust. I don't have it right in front of me but I'm sure I've seen that screen.

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No. In Setup > Playback you can define how each input format is processed. No level setting.

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No. In Setup > Playback you can define how each input format is processed. No level setting.
It was the LFE level per CODEC that I was thinking of.

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