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I am looking to replace my receiver and I believe I have narrowed it down to the two receivers in the title. Its intended use will be:

60% DirecTv viewing
30% Streaming music
10% DVDs

The Sony I can get for $700 + $65 for a 2 year warranty and the Yamaha for $769 shipped from an authorized dealer.

Thanks for any input.
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These are amazing prices, I am currently trial running the Sony STR-DA3700ES and the Yamaha RX-A1020 in my home. I ran the Yamaha through the paces tonight, and plan to go through the Sony tomorrow. I can let you know what I think, but only if you tell me how to get those prices!
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I recently replaced a RX-A3000 with the 5700ES. I prefer the 5700ES.
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I can let you know what I think, but only if you tell me how to get those prices!

The 5700 can be purchased on ebay new in box:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-STR-DA5700ES-Home-Theater-Receiver-5700ES-BRAND-NEW-/370704726640?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item564fb93a70

This seller states that he is an authorized Sony dealer (The SoundSeller - 800-826-0520). The ES line comes with a 5 year warranty; however, buying on line may void the warranty. A square trade or geek squad warranty can always be purchased.

The 1020 I misquoted. It can be purchased from an authorized Yamaha dealer for $879 with shipping:

http://www.safeandsoundhq.com/yamaha-rx--a1020-aventage-7.2-channel-a---v-receiver.html

I am leaning towards the 5700 because it is such a great value at that price.

Looking forward to your review.
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Thanks for the info. I'm pretty sure I will be going with the 5700.
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Wow, amazing prices, even the Yamaha, but with the Sony, well worth the risk. So far I have only demoed the Yamaha, and I'm extremely impressed. Some of my favorite features are the 7 channel stereo, HD Radio, and the sound is so incredibly crisp. I watched Indiana Jones, which I have seen several times, and the instruments on the classical soundtrack sounded awe inspiring. Voices were similar to my old Onkyo, but any instrument be it a bass guitar, violin, cymbal, or trumpet just sound physically present. Drums are missing a little punch, but I don't have a subwoofer, and I feel like Yamaha is trying to limit how much you can distort the sound from the actual recording.

On to the Sony, which I truly hope I like.
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Now for the Sony STR-DA3700ES. The sound quality compared to the Yamaha is kind of a draw. The Sony doesn't reproduce instruments as impressively, but voices are a touch clearer and the punch that was missing with the Yamaha is there. Sony also allows a lot wider range to the EQ. It seems like you would get used to either.
As far as connectivity they both seem to have pluses and minuses, but the Sony 3700 only has one HDMI out and I know I want two. The Sony 5700 and Yamaha 1020 have two matched, but the Sony STR-DA2800ES has three; two matched outputs plus a zone 2 output. The B set of front speakers on the Sony would be nice to have as well, since I have a massive basement, and it would be great to add another set of speakers away from the theater in the future. The HDMI on the front of the Yamaha is nice to have as well, but easily solved by laying a cable along the side of the unit from the back of the Sony.
I listen to A LOT of radio both AM and FM. The Sony is conspicuously missing HD Radio, and the tuner on the Sony really sucks. Using the antennas packaged with the Sony connected to the Yamaha, I easily get HD Radio, if I intentionally bury the antennas it slips into traditional analog, but is still very clear. The Sony has to have the antenna placed absolutely perfectly to get clear stereo sound, but it still isn't as clear, and AM is the same brutal AM sound you can get on a clock radio vs the crystal clear HD on the Yamaha. I know I could add HD Radio to the Sony, but I hate buying something new knowing I will require a workaround.

If I can tweak the settings on the Yamaha to get the bass punch I am looking for, I might be sold.

Then I would need to figure out if I can cut corners with that purchase and go with the Yamaha RX-V773WA, so I can get 4K, a front HDMI input, and a couple of other improvements.

The 2013 models from both companies offer some great enhancements, including 4K. The changes on the Sony 2800 and 5800 changes are massive though with the addition of Zone 2 HDMI out, 4K, and Control 4 automation for lighting, etc (but with the $700 price tag, this is easily forgotten). Very tempting and I keep having trouble seeing really big gains between the 3700/5700 or 2800/5800. Maybe I am missing something.

Sorry if this is rambling, but lots going on in my mind right now.
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Hi,

Did any of you get the 5700ES from the above mentioned ebay seller? what was your experience, I am in the market and was thinking of settling for
an 1800ES for 629$ direct from sony...but this deal seems to be very good.

Also, I read in some earlier posts in avsforums, that Sony does not require a purchase from an sony authorized dealer for the warranty to hold good, is that true?
can anyone shed some light on that?

thanks a lot.
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I purchased the 5700 from ronco21 and I have had no issues. I emailed him asking a question and he replied promptly. If you are worried about Sony support, a Square Trade or Geek Squad warranty can be purchased.

I am very happy with the receiver.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, sorry for so many questions....a couple more:

1) did you try to register your receiver with Sony?
2) should we buy the square trade warranty along with the item on ebay itself or can we purchase it within the 30 day of purchase time period?

Thanks again...
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One of the things i love about yamaha receivers is the detail and accuracy they offer. Some people say yamahas are bright, while other receivers are warmer. The analogy i prefer is detailed vs muddy. For what its worth, you can make a yamaha sound "warm" just like any other avr, by using the natural preset eq instead of the flat setting, but you sacrifice accuracy and detail. Some peoe like a lot of bass, some people dont. But in my experience to much midbass muddy's up your room, unless you have very accurate, expensive, full range speakers that can handle a little extra midbass without sounding boomy.

I run my yamaha on the flat eq, with two 15" subs crossed at 80hz and it sounds better than it has with any receiver i have owned. I did run it on the natural setting before I built the new subs because my dual 8s didn't deliver the punch that is needed for the flat eq. With the fact that you noticed the difference in detail with the yamaha, I thing if you could find a way to add a quality sub(s) in the future you would be very happy with it.
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Hi Chile09,

When I asked the ebay dealer ronco about the ES warranty holding, the response was "Yes", and that they were a Sony Authorized ES retailer. fyi...

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I recently replaced a RX-A3000 with the 5700ES. I prefer the 5700ES.

Mudcat 45, what did you like better about the Sony? Anything you miss from the Yamaha
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Pulled the trigger on the 5700ES for 699...will let you know how it goes...Does anyone know if the 5700 has bluetooth streaming or airplay?
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Just purchased one as well for the $699. Seems like a very nice receiver for the $ spent. The five year warranty doesn't hurt either.

I must be guilty because people say I am guilty because they chose to call me guilty because they refuse to see the truth. Much easier to be part of the mob..
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I saw this thread a while back and found ebay member ronco21, selling $699 shipped. I nearly bought after over a month of research (and debating if I should finally leave Denon brand). But by pure luck, found a used str-da5700es for $325 shipped! I couldn't pass that up, both remotes included, too. Definitely buying a Square Trade warranty soon.

So, here's to upgrading from Denon 2807 (which has served me well for many years) to the 5700. I can't wait to get it!

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I have been very happy with my receiver. Great buy at $325.
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