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So I need to replace my old Nakamichi AV-10 due to a failing remote and lack of HDMI and other current features. I bought a Yamaha RX-V373 thinking that Yamaha was a quality product that would give me great sound. I was mistaken. I am using a set of Defenitive Technology tower speakers along with Def Tech center and rears. The Yamaha sounds thin and weak. Really lacking in depth and impact along with whatever other words that can be used to describe a great sound stage. I know the Yamaha is an entry level unit but, really? So disappointing.

What I need from you guys is some input on a quality replacement for the Nakamichi. I am not really brand loyal type guy. Too many companies are living off or reputation these days in my opinion. This isn't limited to audio companies either. What i need is a receiver that provides great sound first. Number of inputs and wireless connections to iPods and such are secondary considerations

As far as the budget goes, I will spend what I need to but I don't want to buy a top of the line unit just for the sake of buying the top model number. Obviously less money out of pocket is better but I want to be happy when I turn it on. If I can do this with a middle of the line unit I am fine with that. A lot of the features I see on some units are not things I will use anyway.

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When considering modern receivers, you should get one which includes room equalization software. Room EQ compensates for limitations in speakers and room acoustics.

In the mid-priced range, the versions of equalization software provided by Yamaha and Pioneer do not EQ the subwoofer channel. Except for their introductory (low end) models, Onkyo, Denon, Marantz and NAD all provide versions of Audyssey which include subwoofer equalization. You'll have to evaluate their other features to find one which fits your usage best. You should be able to find one that's appropriate for about $500 or less. Often refurbished units can be very cost effective.

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Thanks, I have been reading about the Audyssey system. Seems like it is preferred over the Yamaha system by a lot of people. I don't think the disappointing sound is because of room EQ though. I had no such setup on the Nak. and it sounds much better than the V373. I have read that the V373 uses chip amps rather than discreet amps. Perhaps this is why the Yamaha seems lacking. I'm not finding much info on manufactures websites about amps used. Maybe I can just move up to a mid level AVR and get away from the chip amps. Hate to make that assumption though.
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You might try contacting your local A/V stores (other than Best Buy) to see if you can rent or borrow a receiver in your price range for an in-home trial.

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That might be an idea. I did pick up the V373 at Best Buy, only because I was returning a monitor that was purchased there. None of the salesmen seemed to know much more than what was printed on the sticker under the unit.
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Sadly, most Best Buy employees really don't have the inclination, background or training to be able to provide much help. Their best people are quickly hired away by employers who provide a much better working environment.

Most local A/V specialists won't be able to quote as low a price as an internet site can. Personally, I don't have a problem with paying their higher prices, since I've usually gotten services at no additional charge from brick-and-mortar stores that an internet sales site simply cannot provide -- like actually handling all the paperwork and shipping when returning a defective unit to the manufacturer.

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That's pretty much what I told my wife when she asked why I seemed to know more than they did even though I had not researched new receivers as I normally would before buying. I too would rather pay a few dollars more at a brick and mortar store for the personal service I get when I build a relationship with them. Can't do that with internet stores no matter how much you buy.
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Personally, I don't have a problem with paying their higher prices, since I've usually gotten services at no additional charge from brick-and-mortar stores that an internet sales site simply cannot provide --

I agree BUT specialty AV stores are few and far between. I have none anywhere near me. Back in the day, there were numerous AV stores.
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You have my sympathy. We still have two in our local area. One of them gets a lot of business doing custom automobile audio systems, which I'm sure helps their bottom line significantly.

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Personally, I don't have a problem with paying their higher prices, since I've usually gotten services at no additional charge from brick-and-mortar stores that an internet sales site simply cannot provide -- like actually handling all the paperwork and shipping when returning a defective unit to the manufacturer.

+1
I have one specialty store in my area. They've been here for almost 30 years. They had to branch out in the cellular business to help their bottom line but they are still going strong.
This is how my last visit went:

me: "what's the warranty on that"
them: "3 year"
me: "do I have to deal with the manufacturer of can I just bring it here"
them: "bring it here, we'll deal with it"
me: "what if it's in 2.5 years from now"
them: "bring it here just the same, we'll deal with it. You don't even need your receipts, we'll have you on file. And usually, if it's more then 14 days out for repair, we'll give you a loaner.

That's why I don't mind paying a little more smile.gif
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