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Hi there...

My receiver died yesterday and I'm hoping that someone much smarter than me on this forum might be able to offer some advice. First off, here is a list of all the equipment I have:

Living Room Setup:
Samsung LN52A650 LCD TV (Wall Mounted)
Sony PS3
Apple TV
AT&T U-Verse TV Receiver
Denon AVR-1909 AV Receiver
5x Polk Audio TC60i in-ceiling Speakers
1x Polk Audio PSW-111 Subwoofer

Master Bedroom Setup:
Samsung LN32A650 (Wall Mounted)
AT&T U-Verse TV Receiver
Apple TV (New - not wired up yet)
Denon AVR-1609 AV Receiver (BROKEN)
4x Polk Audio Monitor 60 Tower Speakers
1x Polk Audio CSi3 Center Channel Speaker
1x Polk Audio PSW-10 Subwoofer

I put this setup together in 2009, and haven't really touched it since smile.gif However, my Denon AVR-1609 has been playing up for a while. It started by hearing random "popping" sounds in the speakers and has gradually gotten worse. After some research, I'm pretty sure that the microprocessor has gone bad. I did a master reset on the receiver last night, and still no luck. The sound on Stereo and Direct mode functions, but is mediocre and doesn't use the sub. When I change to another mode, it sometimes works, but will then cut out, stutter, or even emit a high pitched tone. It's very strange. I could try to get the receiver repaired, but it's almost 4 years old, and probably not worth it. I checked all the speaker wires, and other connections. The issues occur no matter what input is selected, even Tuner.

In terms of the speakers, right now I'm only using two of the towers (in front) and the sub. I have the others carefully stored away in the closet. They are great speakers, but my wife doesn't like the bulkiness of them, so I compromised and now we only have two. I figure that I can always keep them and use them in the next house when I get my own den smile.gif Since this is a bedroom setup, the 2.1 setup is OK for us.

So, after looking at receivers, I found the Yamaha V373, which looks to be a great deal at $180 (inc tax and shipping). It has great reviews and seems to meet all my criteria. Any thoughts? I don't want to spend a lot, since this is just for the bedroom.

However, then I started to consider if I might want to replace the AVR-1909 that I have in the living room too (it's the same age as the 1609). I could sell it and potentially get two new receivers. The 1909 has been OK, and I've had it calibrated by a professional (Jeff at Accucal who did a great job), but it's 3 years old now and it might be wise to update.

Any advice or thoughts on what I should do and how to make best use of the setup would be very much appreciated. I'm open to making changes, but obviously am limited on budget.

Thanks for the help!
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The Denon 1909 is better than the Yamaha 373 which is an entry level receiver. I surely wouldn't trade it in for that. I could see replacing the 1609 with the Yamaha 373 since the 1609 didn't do HDMI audio.

Why did you need to calibrate the Denon with a professional? Isn't that what Audyssey MultEQ is for? If your surrounds are too loud and center not loud enough, either rerun Audyssey or bump up the channel level for the center and turn the surrounds down.

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Thanks for the reply... Much appreciated.

What would you choose between the Yamaha RX-V373, Denon AVR-1312 and Denon AVR-1513 to replace my broken AVR-1609?

Are there any others I should consider at this price point?
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Of those three the Yamaha 373 would make the most sense as it comes with YPAO room correction. Check out accessories4less.com for better deals.

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Of those three the Yamaha 373 would make the most sense as it comes with YPAO room correction. Check out accessories4less.com for better deals.

Thanks... I did.

So, here are my options:

Yamaha RX-V373 ($189 brand new from Newegg)
Denon AVR-1312 ($140 refurb from Accessories4less)
Denon AVR-1513 ($150 refurb from Accessories4less)

All prices include shipping...
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yeah, out of those 3 the RX-v373 since it has room calibration and the two Denon's listed don't have anything. Plus the Yamaha is new with 2 year warranty.

I was lucky enough to get a 1613 for $138 right after Thanksgiving. Audyssey MultEQ is better than the YPAO calibration on the Yamaha.

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I was lucky enough to get a 1613 for $138 right after Thanksgiving. Audyssey MultEQ is better than the YPAO calibration on the Yamaha.

How on earth did you score that deal?! Was it new? A refurbed 1613 is $260 at A4L. Trying to decide between that, Yamaha v473, and HK 1700.
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Brand new on Amazon. Was posted here on AVS and also on Slickdeals.

http://slickdeals.net/f/5573854-Denon-AVR-1613-A-V-Receiver-139-Amazon

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What are your thoughts on the Pioneer VSK-522 vs. the Yamaha RX-373?
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What are your thoughts on the Pioneer VSK-522 vs. the Yamaha RX-373?

Definitely the v373. If you need a discrete amp for each channel (more power) and want networking features, you need to step up to the v473, which is $289 on Amazon.
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The V473 is only $199 at NewEgg.
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The V473 is only $199 at NewEgg.
The v471 is $199. The v473 is $289.
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The v471 is $199. The v473 is $289.

Ahh, I should have read more carefully. Sorry.

Why did C-Net hammer the V473 so badly in their review? Are they a reliable source of info for this product? I'm still torn on which receiver to purchase.
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Ahh, I should have read more carefully. Sorry.

Why did C-Net hammer the V473 so badly in their review? Are they a reliable source of info for this product? I'm still torn on which receiver to purchase.

I was wondering the same thing myself. Check out the reviews on Amazon and AVS - people LOVE their Yamahas. If you're torn between Yamaha and Pioneer, it's Yamaha all the way.
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I was wondering the same thing myself. Check out the reviews on Amazon and AVS - people LOVE their Yamahas. If you're torn between Yamaha and Pioneer, it's Yamaha all the way.

What about the Denon 1312 and 1513. Also, any thoughts on Sony receivers? I don't hear much about them in the AVS forum, but they've gotten some decent reviews on C-Net.
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I also just came across the Harmon Kardon 1565 and 700, as well as the Sony STR-DH520.
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What about the Denon 1312 and 1513. Also, any thoughts on Sony receivers? I don't hear much about them in the AVS forum, but they've gotten some decent reviews on C-Net.

Neither the 1312 or 1513 feature Audyssey. I would go with the Yamaha 373 or the Denon 1613 if you can be patient and find a deal. The HK 1700 would be a good buy. Best Buy has had it on sale for $199 periodically (not right now unfortunately).

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For what it is worth I am very happy with my HK AVR 1700 (bought it at the $199 sale price, which I think Fry's has on currently)

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