What are the top three 7 channel amps for under $4000 new - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 31 Old 02-03-2013, 09:51 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
DAlba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Baton Rouge, LA USA
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Any recommendations? Will be driving Polk LSiM system.
DAlba is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 31 Old 02-03-2013, 10:02 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lovinthehd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OROR
Posts: 6,488
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 142 Post(s)
Liked: 756
Power rating makes no difference? You'd pay $4000 for a 7 x 25wpc? smile.gif

lovinthehd is online now  
post #3 of 31 Old 02-03-2013, 10:42 PM
Senior Member
 
GaryWA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Washington State
Posts: 342
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 19
At $4000, go with separates.
GaryWA is offline  
post #4 of 31 Old 02-03-2013, 11:14 PM
Member
 
sarvic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 29
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
What receiver are you using with your LSiM setup?
Also, are you using the towers or bookshelves?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
sarvic is offline  
post #5 of 31 Old 02-03-2013, 11:17 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lovinthehd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OROR
Posts: 6,488
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 142 Post(s)
Liked: 756
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryWA View Post

At $4000, go with separates.

Hmm...I assumed he was talking straight power amp, abbreviated "amp". Assumed he already had a pre amp or he would have asked about pre-amps.....or AVR's, or integrated amps...at least you'd think someone spending 4k would be specific?

lovinthehd is online now  
post #6 of 31 Old 02-03-2013, 11:20 PM
Member
 
sarvic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 29
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Well, I was just curious what he was using because I'm actually planning on using those speakers as well for my 7.2 setup...


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
sarvic is offline  
post #7 of 31 Old 02-03-2013, 11:21 PM
Senior Member
 
GaryWA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Washington State
Posts: 342
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Hmm...I assumed he was talking straight power amp, abbreviated "amp". Assumed he already had a pre amp or he would have asked about pre-amps.....or AVR's, or integrated amps...at least you'd think someone spending 4k would be specific?

Just noticed that.. My bad..
GaryWA is offline  
post #8 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 12:11 AM
AVS Special Member
 
lovinthehd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OROR
Posts: 6,488
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 142 Post(s)
Liked: 756
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryWA View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Hmm...I assumed he was talking straight power amp, abbreviated "amp". Assumed he already had a pre amp or he would have asked about pre-amps.....or AVR's, or integrated amps...at least you'd think someone spending 4k would be specific?

Just noticed that.. My bad..

Time will tell.

lovinthehd is online now  
post #9 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 01:04 AM
Advanced Member
 
erwinfrombelgium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Flanders, Belgium
Posts: 600
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Liked: 49
ATI 3007 is (was?) $3,995 and is 300 Watt @ 8 ohm x 7.
Edit: found the current price: $4,500 (though you would buy it for $3,895)

http://www.ati-amp.com/AT3000.php

Maybe the ATI 2007 is more than enough? That's now $3,440 MSRP (sells for $2,995). It does 200 Watts @ 8 ohms x 7.

I have the Emotiva XPR-5 ($1,999) which is a great 5-ch amp with 400 Watt @ 8 ohm / channel. You could add the XPR-2 ($1,699) and still be below the price of the big ATI. The XPR-2 is 600 Watt @ 8 ohm x 2...

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpr5
http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpr2

There's the Sherbourn PA 7-350 7-Channel Amplifier which is what the XPR-7 was supposed to be, but at $4,799, I'd take the ATI 3007/ 2007 instead if I wanted a one-box solution.

http://www.sherbourn.com/collections/theater/products/pa7350

Building a HT with 7.2.4 layout and ◤SEOS-24◥ LCR.
erwinfrombelgium is offline  
post #10 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 07:02 AM
Troll
 
ufokillerz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NYC Area
Posts: 1,534
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinfrombelgium View Post

ATI 3007 is (was?) $3,995 and is 300 Watt @ 8 ohm x 7.
Edit: found the current price: $4,500 (though you would buy it for $3,895)

http://www.ati-amp.com/AT3000.php

Maybe the ATI 2007 is more than enough? That's now $3,440 MSRP (sells for $2,995). It does 200 Watts @ 8 ohms x 7.

I have the Emotiva XPR-5 ($1,999) which is a great 5-ch amp with 400 Watt @ 8 ohm / channel. You could add the XPR-2 ($1,699) and still be below the price of the big ATI. The XPR-2 is 600 Watt @ 8 ohm x 2...

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpr5
http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpr2

There's the Sherbourn PA 7-350 7-Channel Amplifier which is what the XPR-7 was supposed to be, but at $4,799, I'd take the ATI 3007/ 2007 instead if I wanted a one-box solution.

http://www.sherbourn.com/collections/theater/products/pa7350

+1 to ATI, i have a ati 3006, weird config but paid very little money for it.

leaps and bounds ahead of the emotiva XPA series, and the others before that, no experience with the XPR series though.
ufokillerz is offline  
post #11 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 07:54 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
DAlba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Baton Rouge, LA USA
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
I don't think I need any more than 200wpc. Towers will be LSiM707, LSiM706c center, and LSiM702F/X rears. I would use a Denon 4311 for pre-pro right now but interested in getting a separate pre-pro. The combo would have to be under $5000 though. Thanks for the replies.
DAlba is offline  
post #12 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 07:58 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Sam S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,138
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
Liked: 16
I have the ATI AT3007 amp. It is simply incredible in sound quality, build quality and flexibility. Made in the USA, and the support I got from them when I bought was incredible.
Sam S is offline  
post #13 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 08:04 AM
AVS Special Member
 
crussader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,085
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 23
This would save a bunch of money:

http://outlawaudio.com/products/7200.html

David
crussader is offline  
post #14 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 08:07 AM
Advanced Member
 
saeyedoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 27
I'd go with Wyred4sound or d-sonic. You can configure each channel with the desired power.
saeyedoc is offline  
post #15 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 08:14 AM
Advanced Member
 
JD in NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 645
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by crussader View Post

This would save a bunch of money:

http://outlawaudio.com/products/7200.html

Could save even more by just plugging the speakers directly into the big Denon AVR. I'd recommend trying that first, and only moving to a power amp if it is deemed necessary after lots of listening. If the system won't play loud enough without distortion under that scenario, a power amp may be called for.

While those big Polks aren't the most sensitive speakers around, they are specified at a quite reasonable 88 dB sensitivity. That can take you to pretty decent volume levels without dedicated amplification, unless the room is really very large.

JD in NJ is offline  
post #16 of 31 Old 02-04-2013, 07:20 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lovinthehd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OROR
Posts: 6,488
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 142 Post(s)
Liked: 756
Quote:
Originally Posted by JD in NJ View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by crussader View Post

This would save a bunch of money:

http://outlawaudio.com/products/7200.html

Could save even more by just plugging the speakers directly into the big Denon AVR. I'd recommend trying that first, and only moving to a power amp if it is deemed necessary after lots of listening. If the system won't play loud enough without distortion under that scenario, a power amp may be called for.

While those big Polks aren't the most sensitive speakers around, they are specified at a quite reasonable 88 dB sensitivity. That can take you to pretty decent volume levels without dedicated amplification, unless the room is really very large.

Little to be gained not using the 4311, that's for sure. If anything run a 3ch amp for the front three and use the avr amp for the rest.

lovinthehd is online now  
post #17 of 31 Old 02-05-2013, 02:45 AM
AVS Special Member
 
gurkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,751
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 22
Denon AVR-4520, Onkyo TX-NR5010/Integra DTR-80.3, Pioneer SC-68... plus add you own additional choices here.
You might even consider a processor/preamp like the Onkyo PR-SC5509/Integra DTC-80.3 plus separate power amps. But the improvement might no be that audible.
You could add a separate 3-channel power amp like the Emotiva XPA-3 to the AVRs mentioned, offloading some of the front load to this amp and thereby increasing the load handling capabilities of the remaining power amp channels(surround) within the AVR.
You would gain a substantial and State of the Art room correction system by those combinations, all of them, which probably could make all the difference in SQ.

For your personal power amp needs look at the following table here
gurkey is offline  
post #18 of 31 Old 02-05-2013, 07:43 AM
Member
 
BigNunz6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: BKLYN NY US OF A!
Posts: 59
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 13
I'd have to throw a vote for ATI also. Can't go wrong with the 2007 or if you need more the 3007. I have my 2505 for many years now and have no complaints.

IF YOU LIKE IT....BUY IT!
BigNunz6 is offline  
post #19 of 31 Old 02-05-2013, 03:56 PM
Troll
 
ufokillerz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NYC Area
Posts: 1,534
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 44
the ati amp is heavy as heck but its rock solid, i didn't even know that many people around had ati amps hah, My used ATI AT3006 was obtained at the price of what i paid for my used Emotiva MPS-1, which made it a no brainer.
ufokillerz is offline  
post #20 of 31 Old 02-05-2013, 05:44 PM
Senior Member
 
yosh7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 297
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAlba View Post

Any recommendations? Will be driving Polk LSiM system.

I use a Sunfire TGA 7401. 400 watts/channel x 7 channels @ 8 ohms and runs very, very cool....even when driven hard. And it is quite efficient. I also looked at the Sherbourn PA 7-350 and the Outlaw Model 7900. The newer Emotiva amps were not out when I bought. If they were I probably would have considered a pair of the 1000 watt xpr 1 monoblocks for the main channels and the xpr 5 400 watt/channel x 5 for the rest. This would have taken up more real estate though. There are lots of good choices out there.

yosh7 is offline  
post #21 of 31 Old 02-06-2013, 01:05 AM
AVS Special Member
 
gurkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,751
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 22
Emotivas new Reference XPR-5 plus Emotiva XPR-2. They sum up for just about $4000, using those often upcoming sales events at least 10% less.
gurkey is offline  
post #22 of 31 Old 06-05-2013, 12:43 PM
Member
 
Miketr75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 73
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

Emotivas new Reference XPR-5 plus Emotiva XPR-2. They sum up for just about $4000, using those often upcoming sales events at least 10% less.

They are on sale now 15% off this time smile.gif
Miketr75 is offline  
post #23 of 31 Old 06-05-2013, 01:02 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lovinthehd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OROR
Posts: 6,488
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 142 Post(s)
Liked: 756
Or if real estate is not an issue for a bit more than half of the $4k you could get a stack of 7 Crown XLS 1500 amps and run them bridged at 1050 watts at 8ohm/1550 watts at 4ohm. I just picked up two of them and am very impressed....not as pretty as some of the others but perform very nicely....could put the saved money towards a nice sub or something smile.gif

lovinthehd is online now  
post #24 of 31 Old 06-05-2013, 01:08 PM
Senior Member
 
smitty8451's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 243
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 58
+1 for ATI

Running a ATI 2004 (4X200 W 8ohms) and a ATI AT2007 (7X200 W 8ohms) for a total of 11 channels off of a Yamaha RX-A3010 used as a preamp only. Rock solid, dead silent when on mute (i.e. no speaker hiss, humm ect.) and built like an abhrams tank to boot.

Best of all built in the good ol US of A

Yamaha CX-A5000, ATI AT 2007 Amp (7X200W), ATI AT 2004 Amp (4X200W)
Klipsch RF 63's - Main, RB 61's - Front heights, RC-62 - Center, RS-62's - Surround, RS-52's - Rear Surround
2 Rythmik DS-1510 DIY Subwoofers (With PEQ600XLR3 Amp) each connected with Antimode 8033S-II
smitty8451 is offline  
post #25 of 31 Old 06-05-2013, 03:27 PM
 
runnin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,557
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 42
For a one box solution I'd suggest Outlaw Audio 7700 at 2150. Built by ATI and looks nicer than their house brand. For processor Integra would be a great option at around 2300. Or you could save some money for a sub and get a Denon AVR X4000. The room correction is key on theses units, top of the line Audyssey XT32.

I concur that you won't need more than 200 wpc unless your room is huge.
runnin' is offline  
post #26 of 31 Old 06-05-2013, 04:02 PM
AVS Special Member
 
DS-21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,396
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Liked: 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinfrombelgium View Post

ATI 3007 is (was?) $3,995 and is 300 Watt @ 8 ohm x 7.
Edit: found the current price: $4,500 (though you would buy it for $3,895)

http://www.ati-amp.com/AT3000.php

Maybe the ATI 2007 is more than enough? That's now $3,440 MSRP (sells for $2,995). It does 200 Watts @ 8 ohms x 7.

I would recommend the AT2007 (which is what I'm currently running) over the AT3007 simply because the 2007 does not require a 20A circuit, whereas the 3007 does. It's a fantastic amp. Beautifully built. The terminals on the back are nicely insulated, too. Well-designed spade inlets on the bottom, and deep enough to fit sawtooth-style bananas unlike many amps.

NOT fun to move around, though. And the ATI-OEM'ed Outlaw variant thereof is markedly inferior on that front, because it lacks handles on the front faceplate. (I wish the AT2007 also had the backside handles its Lexicon relative has, though.)

The Sunfire is an interesting amp. Amazing that they can get NRTL safety certification at those power levels.

Another similar amp to the Sunfire (Class G) is Arcam's 7-channel unit. Don't remember the name but it's a quality piece.

As for the Wyred4Sound, they'll be smaller and more energy-efficient than the bruiser ATI. But look to the ones that use the B&O ASX2-series Icepower modules. They have a more consistent FR into different loads than the older Icepower modules I think some of their amps still use. If someone does a multichannel amp based on the Hypex modules (Channel Islands Audio, maybe?) that is also worth looking into. The Hypexes have basically the same performance as Class AB amps but are a lot more energy-efficient.

--
"In many cases there aren’t two sides unless one side is 'reality' and the other is 'nonsense.'" - Phil Plait
Serious Audio Blog 
Multichannel music (and video) urban loft living room system 
DS-21 is offline  
post #27 of 31 Old 06-05-2013, 04:34 PM
AVS Special Member
 
phantom52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: TX
Posts: 7,085
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked: 83
The Sherbourn PA 7-350 7-Channel Amplifier is on sale now for under $2k delivered. Seems like an excellent buy at this time. 30 day free trial and 10 year warranty.
phantom52 is offline  
post #28 of 31 Old 06-05-2013, 08:30 PM
AVS Special Member
 
DS-21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,396
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Liked: 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom52 View Post

The Sherbourn PA 7-350 7-Channel Amplifier is on sale now for under $2k delivered. Seems like an excellent buy at this time. 30 day free trial and 10 year warranty.

I dunno. According to their manual, that amp requires a 20A circuit, and to actually get the advertised power one needs a 220V, 30A circuit. Generally, either one will require the services of a competent electrician.

Not terribly practical for most people. IMO, an amp designed to work on the circuits a typical home actually has (that is to say, 115V/15A in living rooms) is a better choice for most people.

--
"In many cases there aren’t two sides unless one side is 'reality' and the other is 'nonsense.'" - Phil Plait
Serious Audio Blog 
Multichannel music (and video) urban loft living room system 
DS-21 is offline  
post #29 of 31 Old 06-06-2013, 11:04 AM
Member
 
akka83's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 18
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
You have a few options :-
1. If you specifically want a 7 channel, try Arcam P777, Anthem PVA7.
2. You can also go for multiple amps - a powerful 3 channel for fronts, and a decent 5 channel one for the surrounds.
3. Since you wanted to possibly update your pre-pro as well, you can go for a higher end AV Receiver as well. I know my Arcam AVR600 is very musical, and can drive 7 channels simultaneously.

Hope this helps!
akka83 is offline  
post #30 of 31 Old 06-06-2013, 12:43 PM
AVS Special Member
 
KidHorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Derwood, Maryland
Posts: 2,860
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 177 Post(s)
Liked: 190
You do realize the thread was started 4 months ago.
KidHorn is offline  
Reply Receivers, Amps, and Processors

Tags
Emotiva Xpr 5 Reference Five Channel Power Amplifier

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off