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post #1411 of 1439 Old 06-15-2014, 12:54 PM
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Pioneer has updated the IControl app in March, just found it now for apple products. Its called IControl AV 5. It is now back compatable with the SC 1222, SC 1522 and many other older recievers.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...icontrolav2014

The us the link for Android users. Thanks for the heads up!
While I'm here, thanks to LNEWoLF & scoobdude for posting about iControlAV5. without this, who knows when, if ever, I would have learned about it. One of the few good things about having to go through the warranty replacement of my 1222 was iControlAV2013.

For 2013 they added a music player/wifi streamer that really works - i haven't had any drops/breaks - and digital db display to the volume control. The db display only worked when increasing the volume though, didn't change when turning it down. iControlAV5 fixed this.

If you are using iControlAV2012, you really should try iControlAV5. You can run them together. My tablet has all three installed. Much like their remote, Pioneer could really improve the app navigation - but at least iControlAV5 does more tricks.

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Quote: Originally Posted by trp3383

I'm constantly having Pandora issues where it will just stop playing randomly. Sometimes it starts back up after a few minutes and sometimes it doesn't. I want to do a factory reset but can't find anywhere to copy my setting to a usb stick?

Have you updated the firmware?
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...vers/SC-1222-K
Everybody should have the latest firmware. The last version they have is over 2 years old. The 1222-K is EOL.

I use Pandora to go to sleep at night and have noticed there are times that there are big dead spots. Going up a step or back to the main menu and then back to Pandora, usually fixes it for a while.
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SC-1222-K looks very good and have Class D3 amplification. The upcoming VSX-1124-K doesn't have D3 but have Subwoofer EQ.

What would be the best choice between those 2? What would be the difference in sound between those 2 ( D3 vs AB amplification)?

Thanks!!!
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SC-1222-K looks very good and have Class D3 amplification. The upcoming VSX-1124-K doesn't have D3 but have Subwoofer EQ.

What would be the best choice between those 2? What would be the difference in sound between those 2 ( D3 vs AB amplification)?

Thanks!!!
wait for the new models with D3 amps later this year
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Can someone please explain to me why Im having audio from my T.V when Im using my internet ,but not going through the ARC from my Visio M series to my 1222K? However,I get correct sound when listening to reg T.V?
Also , Im wanting to know how to properly connect my 1222K to ethernet ? And can I connect it to my laptop via WIFI??
I received my 1222K second hand ,and let me tell u in my 45 yrs, I`ve never heard such pure sound from an AVR ,and not a component as I1ve always had.. Im really happy with this unit ,that Im thinking of getting another??
Also can anyone give me any pointers about connect a two channel amp to 1222K, and two extra speakers???? I know there isnt a 12V trigger? Is there another way ,and to receive the correct balanced sound???
im ordering the new Emotiva ERC-3 Balanced CD player... I cant wait for it to get here!!
But Im wanting to connect an Emotiva amp,or Music Hall two channel amp if possible through my AVR??
I might have to upgrade to a higher SC model that provides a 12V ttrigger? I cant believe Pioneer didnt put one on this model???
So I woiuld really like to hear some feedback if all possible????
Thank u, Dabsim

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Arc is usually tied to one hdmi port and did need to be turned on from the TV and accepted by the receiver.

For ethernet you need to run a cable from your router. There are other ways as well but still require the same concept


2 extra speakers for what? How many do you have connected now? There are 7 amps and at least 2 preamps.

For the 12 volt trigger there are surge protectors that are switched on based on a rise in current.
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Scoobdude? When Im using my internet on my T.V like Netflix. It want come through the ARC,and sound only comes from my T.V,and not the AVR???
Now on the issue about wanting to c if I can connect an Emotiva 2 channel amp ,and run a pair of B&W 6 series or a pair of Def Tech studio moniters??
I enjoy the 1222K sound. However, It would b nice to have some variety . Its hard to beat a good quility sound from a great solid state amp...
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Again check your TV. Find out which one hdmi port is for arc.

You have 3 zones on the avr. 2 is powered if only using 5.1 or has preouts. Zone 3 is preout only. There maybe more preouts but I have not been back there in awhile. So it is possible to hook them up...he you want them hooked up is a different story to see.
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Okay. C ,I wasnt sure if I could even connect the amp to the pre outs? But it does make sense.. Im going to call Emotiva tomorrow to find out more,but Im finding out just how good Pioneers D3 amplification sound is. And its a bit of a price increase to aquire a more substantial sound that the D3 produces??
Thanks for the input guys...
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I just got one of these sc-1222k AVR's and the only sound I get out of it is from the speaker test leveling feature.
No sound from any inputs. Not from digital or analog. Not even from the FM radio. But when I go to the speaker level setup it puts out a test one on each speaker. I cant even get sound from a USB stick with music on it. It gets even better (sarcasm) no sound from headphones !

The other wack thing I noticed is that there is a set of analog audio inputs called "video" and just above it is a old composite video input. Nowhere in the manual or or the remote or in any screens do I see a way to use these inputs. There is no "video" to select anywhere! I see tv, cd, dvd and everything else but no "video" How stupid can Pioneer be? This AVR has turned out to be a rather nightmarish thing that has made me want to not buy anything Pioneer.

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I just got one of these sc-1222k AVR's and the only sound I get out of it is from the speaker test leveling feature.
No sound from any inputs. Not from digital or analog. Not even from the FM radio. But when I go to the speaker level setup it puts out a test one on each speaker. I cant even get sound from a USB stick with music on it. It gets even better (sarcasm) no sound from headphones !

The other wack thing I noticed is that there is a set of analog audio inputs called "video" and just above it is a old composite video input. Nowhere in the manual or or the remote or in any screens do I see a way to use these inputs. There is no "video" to select anywhere! I see tv, cd, dvd and everything else but no "video" How stupid can Pioneer be? This AVR has turned out to be a rather nightmarish thing that has made me want to not buy anything Pioneer.
New or used?

In either case, have you tried to reset the AVR?

From the Interactive Manual:

Using other functions

Resetting the system

Use this procedure to reset all the receiver’s settings to the factory default. Use the front panel controls to do this. Set MULTI-ZONE to MULTI ZONE OFF.

Disconnect the iPod and USB memory device from the receiver beforehand.

Set the Control with HDMI to OFF (see HDMI Setup).

1 - Switch the receiver into standby.

2 - While holding down ENTER on the front panel, press STANDBY/ON.

The display shows RESET NO .

3 - Select ‘RESET’ using PRESET controls, then press ENTER on the front panel.

The display shows RESET? OK.

4 - Press ENTER to confirm.

OK appears in the display to indicate that the receiver has been reset to the factory default settings.

After reset check for sound.

To get to VIDEO or any of the other inputs not on the remote ...

- you can press HDMI to cycle thru the HDMI inputs

- use the INPUT SELECT arrow keys

- SIGNAL SEL will switch between digital & analog on a selected input

- you can combine the above - i.e. to get to VIDEO, press BD then HDMI (works on my SC-72 - 1222-k may be different)

Hope reset restores your sound.
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New or used?

In either case, have you tried to reset the AVR?

From the Interactive Manual:

Using other functions

Resetting the system

Use this procedure to reset all the receiver’s settings to the factory default. Use the front panel controls to do this. Set MULTI-ZONE to MULTI ZONE OFF.

Disconnect the iPod and USB memory device from the receiver beforehand.

Set the Control with HDMI to OFF (see HDMI Setup).

1 - Switch the receiver into standby.

2 - While holding down ENTER on the front panel, press STANDBY/ON.

The display shows RESET NO .

3 - Select ‘RESET’ using PRESET controls, then press ENTER on the front panel.

The display shows RESET? OK.

4 - Press ENTER to confirm.

OK appears in the display to indicate that the receiver has been reset to the factory default settings.

After reset check for sound.

To get to VIDEO or any of the other inputs not on the remote ...

- you can press HDMI to cycle thru the HDMI inputs

- use the INPUT SELECT arrow keys

- SIGNAL SEL will switch between digital & analog on a selected input

- you can combine the above - i.e. to get to VIDEO, press BD then HDMI (works on my SC-72 - 1222-k may be different)

Hope reset restores your sound.
Im gonna take it back out the box ( I was about to send it back ) and try this.
Thanks. Ill let you know if it helped. Its used. Off Ebay. listed as great condition. Seller sent it like he didnt give a dam if I received in pieces or not. Tried to play the " it must not work cause fedex dropped it" game. I told him he should have shipped it in an appropriate manner.

Ill get back with you thanks


5min later.

HOLY SH**it Batman! It has sound!
Now I gotta start playing with it all over again to see if anything is REALLY broken.
I gotta check how it sounds, the switching. EVERYTHING.
There had to be a reason why it went into some kind protect mode and had no sound. The seller
didnt check it apparently. He sent it hoping it would work and sent it carelessly with hardly any inside packaging material. Talk about pissed me off.
Im getting allot of that on ebay these days.

THANKS DUDE....
to be continued

5min later
Coax and optical inputs have something wrong. The sound goes in and out every 1 or 2 seconds. Like the songs are skipping.
I change it to the FM radio. Sound is ok. Not the best reception. Maybe its the antenna.
Ill investigate more on what is going on.

to be continued.


1 hour later
Digital inputs are not working right. Coax and Optical both cut in and out like the song is skipping.
Analog is all good.
Any recommendations?

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Question A big thanks and a question

Hi all,
I want to echo "thanks to LNEWoLF & scoobdude for posting about iControlAV5. without this, who knows when, if ever, I would have learned about it."
It fixed the one main complaint I had that the phone versions did not display actual volume like the IPAD version did. You could adjust volume with the rotating dial, but did not know where you were!! Love this!!!

One other question on this. Is there ANY way to be able to use all 9 channels (Front LCR, front heights, side surrounds, back surrounds) simultaneously? I know there are only 7 channels of amplification, but I could easily put 2 channels on external amps. (I actually already have the LCR on external amps so am only using 4 of the 7 internal amp channels right now). I have seen this question asked before, but never answered.

Thanks for all of the great help.
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Hi all,
I want to echo "thanks to LNEWoLF & scoobdude for posting about iControlAV5. without this, who knows when, if ever, I would have learned about it."
It fixed the one main complaint I had that the phone versions did not display actual volume like the IPAD version did. You could adjust volume with the rotating dial, but did not know where you were!! Love this!!!

One other question on this. Is there ANY way to be able to use all 9 channels (Front LCR, front heights, side surrounds, back surrounds) simultaneously? I know there are only 7 channels of amplification, but I could easily put 2 channels on external amps. (I actually already have the LCR on external amps so am only using 4 of the 7 internal amp channels right now). I have seen this question asked before, but never answered.

Thanks for all of the great help.
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Hi Joe

It's not possible to drive all 9 channels/pre-outs simultaneously. My understanding is basically that the circuitry sends the signal to the appropriate output, either the amps or preouts depending on what config you've selected. (I'll happily stand corrected if this info is wrong). I.e. It's only able to handle up to 7.1 channels simultaneously, sending the signal to the internals amp(s) or the preouts.

For real world experience, I got curious too a while back to see if it was possible while all my gear was dismantled for a reconfig. As I thought, no config I selected was able to use the external amp + the internal, to drive all 9 channels.

Hope it helps to answer your question.
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can anyone please give me some ideas as to fix the connection or adjust the pioneer 2012 app?? Its constantly shuts down on me . And from what ive read this has been a continues prob ever since its introduction? Ive sent an email to Pioneer explaining the prob without having heard anything back from Pioneer??


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can anyone please give me some ideas as to fix the connection or adjust the pioneer 2012 app?? Its constantly shuts down on me . And from what ive read this has been a continues prob ever since its introduction? Ive sent an email to Pioneer explaining the prob without having heard anything back from Pioneer??


Thanks, Dabsim
Try the new app icontrolav5
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Scoobdude!! Thank u! I wasn't sure how to resolve this issue? I appreciate all it help in past post questions, and today..
Thanks, Dabsim
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Thanks for the kind words. It was a group effort to get pioneers attention. Many people took the time to email/phone pioneer concerning the app. My thanks to all of them and pioneer engineers for updating the app to work across the board.

Still trying to catch up. With the new forum/board it has slowed me down greatly. Learning curve, was use too clicking on the treads i wanted to watch and all the latest post with individual post count would show up within each thread. I use the mobile version. Still learning.

I did come across this thread. Pioneer has created a great new in depth guide for MCACC.

http://www.avsforum.com/uploads/2014..._Ref_Guide.pdf
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Recent problem...I have been experiencing very split second random audio dropouts over HDMI...has happened to two players over the BD input...have bought new high speed HDMI cables, have turned off HDMI control on TV, receiver, and players....Cant figure out what is causing these. It happens about once every two or three movies at random times. Its very frustrating. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

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Try the new app icontrolav5

Works! I was pretty convinced that pioneer didn't understand software and how important it is to modern product support.

This gives me some hope!
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Over the past 2 weeks on 2 separate occasions I've had my Internet Radio feature lockup. Basically when I select Internet Radio the receiver displays "connecting" then after a bit "Genres" and then it freezes there. At that point I cannot get the unit to respond to any "arrow" or "enter" key presses (either from the remote or the front panel) which would normally allow me to browse through the available streaming Radio feeds.

The first time this happened I did a factory reset and the internet streaming worked fine again. However now that the exact same lockup has repeated itself in such a short period of time I'm wondering if something is amiss? Also it's rather inconvenient to have to re-build my MCACC settings each time I do a reset.

Prior to just recently the Internet Radio on this receiver worked without issue for a good 18 months. I haven't made any significant changes to my network either. Just to be clear everything else about the receiver appears to function normally, just not internet radio.

Any insights and/or suggests are greatly appreciated.
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Over the past 2 weeks on 2 separate occasions I've had my Internet Radio feature lockup. Basically when I select Internet Radio the receiver displays "connecting" then after a bit "Genres" and then it freezes there. At that point I cannot get the unit to respond to any "arrow" or "enter" key presses (either from the remote or the front panel) which would normally allow me to browse through the available streaming Radio feeds.

The first time this happened I did a factory reset and the internet streaming worked fine again. However now that the exact same lockup has repeated itself in such a short period of time I'm wondering if something is amiss? Also it's rather inconvenient to have to re-build my MCACC settings each time I do a reset.

Prior to just recently the Internet Radio on this receiver worked without issue for a good 18 months. I haven't made any significant changes to my network either. Just to be clear everything else about the receiver appears to function normally, just not internet radio.

Any insights and/or suggests are greatly appreciated.
If you hit and hold the power button to turn off(like 30 seconds), you reset the network server of the receiver..no losing mcacc or other settings. I have had to do it sometimes 2x in a day and I have gone months without having to for no rhyme or reason. I use the media server and pandora net functions as much as anything else so I definitely notice when it locks up.
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If you hit and hold the power button to turn off(like 30 seconds), you reset the network server of the receiver..no losing mcacc or other settings. I have had to do it sometimes 2x in a day and I have gone months without having to for no rhyme or reason. I use the media server and pandora net functions as much as anything else so I definitely notice when it locks up.
Thanks for the note. However on a whim the other night, prior to seeing your post, I simply tried downloading the new iControalAV5 Android app. Lo and behold just booting that and having it attempt to access the 1222 somehow resolved the issue/conflict.

Maybe the old AV app had somehow locked up the networking functions of the receiver or something. Dunno. But everything is back to normal so I'm definitely happy. Good to know there is a networking reset that doesn't touch MCACC. Thanks again for that.
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I may have brought this up before, but . . . Anyone having problems with the back speakers popping in and out? It happens with most all surround settings where the AVR is left to "interpret" the signal and split it out, especially Ext. Stereo. They'll be on a sound good, not great, and then drop out and all the audio moves to the front, then they'll pop on at about half volume and then jump a full step and be loud, but not as much as the front. It also sounds like the EQ is being switched on and off for those speakers. It's as if there is a short somewhere or their version of all speakers playing is not what it should be. I'm find a lot of "reinterpretation" in the way Pioneer gear it operates in these models. My previous Pioneer unit had 5/7 Channel Stereo where not matter what the speakers were set at, they all operated equally and all sounded great. Also when it took a Stereo signal and you told it to do something with amazing sounds came out. That is why when it was time to update it, Pioneer was a no brainer. That'll teach me to about "no brainers".

This is getting really annoying, especially when I am using Pandora or the like to go to sleep at night. Having the 4 back speakers behind me and closer than the fronts makes it quite noticeable and annoying.

After writing this I was sitting here surfing and the speakers started doing "their thing". So I went in and looked around and played with some settings and when changed the XOver the change from 80 to 100 and back is just what it sounds like when "the problem" kicks in. Also I set the speaker setup to SP-B and although it does sound a bit better, it still does it. WOW! They just jumped up and more so than ever.

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Hey guys ,I need some advice here? I just upgraded to the sc37. I still have my sc1222k. However,I'm selling it?
I'm trying to get the sc37 to connect to network so that I can listen ,and use the app? But my screen is just stuck on setting up network is all it says! I can't get it to go off! I hot every button? Nothing. I have to hit the mcacc. Then it goes off. But when I go back. The setting up network is still there? I will try holding down the power button ,c what happens?
Can someone please help me out here?
I asked on the my new member site - sc37? No activity this whole weekend. Either no probe with units or just slow traffic?
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I may have brought this up before, but . . . Anyone having problems with the back speakers popping in and out? It happens with most all surround settings where the AVR is left to "interpret" the signal and split it out, especially Ext. Stereo. They'll be on a sound good, not great, and then drop out and all the audio moves to the front, then they'll pop on at about half volume and then jump a full step and be loud, but not as much as the front. It also sounds like the EQ is being switched on and off for those speakers. It's as if there is a short somewhere or their version of all speakers playing is not what it should be. I'm find a lot of "reinterpretation" in the way Pioneer gear it operates in these models. My previous Pioneer unit had 5/7 Channel Stereo where not matter what the speakers were set at, they all operated equally and all sounded great. Also when it took a Stereo signal and you told it to do something with amazing sounds came out. That is why when it was time to update it, Pioneer was a no brainer. That'll teach me to about "no brainers".

This is getting really annoying, especially when I am using Pandora or the like to go to sleep at night. Having the 4 back speakers behind me and closer than the fronts makes it quite noticeable and annoying.

After writing this I was sitting here surfing and the speakers started doing "their thing". So I went in and looked around and played with some settings and when changed the XOver the change from 80 to 100 and back is just what it sounds like when "the problem" kicks in. Also I set the speaker setup to SP-B and although it does sound a bit better, it still does it. WOW! They just jumped up and more so than ever.
Check your speaker wire connections behind the reciever. If there is one loose thread it can cause such issues.
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Hey guys. I have the 1222k and am trying to hook up a N64 to it, I know oldie but goodie. I can get the audio just fine but none of the RCA yellows work. The best I got was a solid green screen in the DVD one. I hooked it up to our other tv and it works fine so it's not the system or the cord. Am I missing something or is it possible a best board all around?

Also, Should video conversion be off on the AVR for movies?

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Hey guys. I have the 1222k and am trying to hook up a N64 to it, I know oldie but goodie. I can get the audio just fine but none of the RCA yellows work. The best I got was a solid green screen in the DVD one. I hooked it up to our other tv and it works fine so it's not the system or the cord. Am I missing something or is it possible a best board all around?

Also, Should video conversion be off on the AVR for movies?

Thanks.
Try going into inputs and making sure the correct video source is selected.
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