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Got airplay to work on my iPad with the Bluetooth adapter AS-BT200. But I still can't get my iPod to see airplay. Any ideas?
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Sorry FarmerBob, I have been a computer technician/sys admin for too long and mix my terminology sometimes....I am interested to see what my old school Acoustic Research 312HO's, AR2C, and the rest of my system can do with a proper amp.
I recently came across a neighbor who had an AudioSource Amp 3 at a yardsale in pristine condition, no scratches, looked like it had just been taken out of the box. It used to retail for $500, but I got it for $30. I have it running to my two 312's and since they are 4 ohm, the amp pushes 300 wpc to them. I then have the biamping(of the 312's) going to the rear surround connections on the 1222. Anyway it sounds great.

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assist requested ...trouble in pio paradise

hey guys
I am hoping that one of you may have an inkling of what I will describe ....
all was going well till one day after I had used the remote to power up the rec , a little later when I tried to switch off via the remote it would not work ....I ended up doing it through the front panel , I assumed the batteries but no way
the remote not responding at all ...so I figured maybe the IR bulb is gone and need new remote and resigned myself to using the controls on the receiver in the meantime .
Next time I powered up however all I could get was stereo no matter what program I played ...so I tried the mic and went through the setup all channels worked ...but when trying say a DVD in surround same thing ...stereo only
checked all spkr wiring , fine , settings for auto surround , same ....I am kind of at a loss , I can't imagine how the remote and audio could be related
or what is wrong ?
anyone have any thoughts ...much appreciated !
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hey guys
I am hoping that one of you may have an inkling of what I will describe ....
all was going well till one day after I had used the remote to power up the rec , a little later when I tried to switch off via the remote it would not work ....I ended up doing it through the front panel , I assumed the batteries but no way
the remote not responding at all ...so I figured maybe the IR bulb is gone and need new remote and resigned myself to using the controls on the receiver in the meantime .
Next time I powered up however all I could get was stereo no matter what program I played ...so I tried the mic and went through the setup all channels worked ...but when trying say a DVD in surround same thing ...stereo only
checked all spkr wiring , fine , settings for auto surround , same ....I am kind of at a loss , I can't imagine how the remote and audio could be related
or what is wrong ?
anyone have any thoughts ...much appreciated !
Barry
I have not run into that before, but if all else fails maybe try a factory reset:


Use this procedure to reset all the receiver’s settings to the factory default. Use the front panel controls to do this. Set MULTI-ZONE to MULTI ZONE OFF.

Disconnect the iPod and USB memory device from the receiver beforehand.

Set the Control with HDMI to OFF (see HDMI Setup).

1 - Switch the receiver into standby.

2 - While holding down ENTER on the front panel, press STANDBY/ON.

The display shows RESET NO .

3 - Select ‘RESET’ using PRESET controls, then press ENTER on the front panel.

The display shows RESET? OK.

4 - Press ENTER to confirm.

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checked all spkr wiring , fine , settings for auto surround , same ....I am kind of at a loss , I can't imagine how the remote and audio could be related
or what is wrong ?
anyone have any thoughts ...much appreciated !
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Crazy suggestion I didn't see mentioned, unplug it for 10 minutes and then plug it back in.
I've had a few weird issues that were resolved by this, I even did a full reset on the unit once and that didn't resolve a stereo/PCM related issue similar to yours, then I unplugged it, left it for 10, came back and plugged it in and all was good in the world again.
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thanks

I appreciate the ideas ....on the WE I will set it up again and try the reset thing ....but dianebrat when I originally took the unit off the shelf it was unpowered for a day or two when I tried it again came up with the same issue , so I figure I won't get off so lucky
will advise once I try the reset
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RESET ....no luck

finally got a chance to do a factory reset ( actually a few ) ...thanks red71rum ...but no luck , I still have an expensive stereo receiver , however the remote works now , but I would greatly prefer to have full surround and no remote
I called a local tech shop and they said could be a board and suggested not work fixing ....so I may be SOL
thanks again for the ideas
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finally got a chance to do a factory reset ( actually a few ) ...thanks red71rum ...but no luck , I still have an expensive stereo receiver , however the remote works now , but I would greatly prefer to have full surround and no remote
I called a local tech shop and they said could be a board and suggested not work fixing ....so I may be SOL
thanks again for the ideas
Weird, the only time I have had a problem with mine when it somehow got stuck on Zone2. Have you tried a different hdmi cable, probably will not do anything but it is worth a shot.

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Does this receiver not support streaming Apple lossless files?? I have all my music ripped as ALAC files (shows up in Jriver media as .m4a files) and when I try to stream to the receiver via DLNA, it says "Unsupported Media". Will it not ALAC file? I tried a FLAC file and it worked fine. I don't want to go and convert all of my ALACs to FLACs!
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I have a question which I couldn't find or think of a way to resolve, or if it's even possible. I want to connect a Bluetooth transmitter to listen to music with headphones while still playing the stereo. I can't use the headphone out with a transmitter as it cuts the sound to the speakers, my old receiver I could setup to do both. I didn't see a way to setup it like that on this receiver. I have Zone 1 as main floor and that's what I wanted to use the headphones for. Zone 2 is outside, Zone 3 is basement. I tried the Pre Out for Zone 1 but the level is so low that even turning up the headphones all the way the sound is quiet. It seems the Pre Out are controlled by volume, if I turn the volume up enough to get good sound in the headphones it's so loud no need for headphones.I couldn't find a way, unless I'm missing to set the Pre Out levels higher. The reason for the headphones is part of the time they are better to listen to music when cooking with loud devices, and not have to blast the stereo.
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Mine is hissing like MF at about -30dB. And when you change the volume, every .5dB that it moves through you get a thumping noise. PLUS my ears start ringing every time I turn the thing on. My other three older units, a VSX-D909S and two VSX-9300's are dead silent to max volume. And the 909S did far better at 5 Channel Surround and was louder with better sound quality. I have all the same speakers as I did with the 909S and there such a difference. Is this the way that this unit is, or do I have a "Lemon"?

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

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Mine is hissing like MF at about -30dB. And when you change the volume, every .5dB that it moves through you get a thumping noise. PLUS my ears start ringing every time I turn the thing on. My other three older units, a VSX-D909S and two VSX-9300's are dead silent to max volume. And the 909S did far better at 5 Channel Surround and was louder with better sound quality. I have all the same speakers as I did with the 909S and there such a difference. Is this the way that this unit is, or do I have a "Lemon"?

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
I think you have a lemon. Mine has been used everyday for over 2 years and no humming or thumping noises and enough power for my 3 channel setup. Only complaint is internet connectivity but thats more due to my wireless adapter/router.

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Hi all, when I stream music from iTunes or from Jriver Media to the SC1222K the subwoofer is not playing. I currently have a 2.1 system set up. The music streams fine and plays through the LR but nothing is coming through the subwoofer. When I play other sources through the receiver, like blu rays, it will output to the subwoofer so I know that I have the subwoofer line in the right spot. How can I get streamed music to output through the subwoofer??

Edit; nevermind I'm an idiot...I had the fronts on LARGE. I swear I switched it back to small before running the MCACC again...

Alright all good!

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I see that nobody has posted on here for several months. My 1222 has been great until there was a loud buzzing yesterday. I traced the buzzing to the receiver and not my external amps. Furthermore, I found that when I removed the HDMI cable from my tv to the receiver the buzzing stopped. I tried power-cycling the receiver and the buzzing persisted. Ultimately the buzzing went away, but it left me wondering if it was some kind of ground loop or is my receiver starting to have problems? Anyone else experienced this?


Edit: I found that the buzzing is from my Plasma, so it is most likely not my Pioneer.

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Lost ability to connect to Pandora . . .

New problem. As of the big nationwide DDOS attack, or so, my 1222 will no longer connect to Pandora. I get "Server Error" every time I try to fire it up. I have done the "server" reset, which has worked in the past and no joy this time. Also for some time I have not been able to use the Android app, iControlAV5, that worked great for a long time. I get "Error Code: B27102" every time I fire that up it says there's no unit there or it'll see the 1222 and during re-set up the app freezes. It also freezes if it's set up to connect to the 1222 and needs no new adjustment. I'd really hate to do a factory reset because I have one MCACC setting that is perfect and I have no idea how I got it, since the other 5 just plain suck. I'm wondering if it's a "being left behind" software issue like I am having with my Blu-ray and Youtube? Airplay works, matter of fact it's running now as I type this. I can get "Internet Radio" & "Favorites". But no Pandora, don't use Sirius, have that on the DISH.

I just looked on DownDetector.com and although there are many reports of failures across many devices, one person said that it's failing on their AVR since Oct 27, 2016 after a year of no problems. It works fine on my computer.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

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Same thing here. In the past 2 weeks or so I cannot connect to Pandora either. There doesn't seem to be an answer floating around the internet like usual other than a message on Pioneer's website acknowledging this new issue and working to resolve it. I think it will ultimately come down to another USB-stick firmware update, whenever Pioneer gets around to it...
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Pandora issue

Same Pandora issue just suddenly stopped connecting and I've tried everything with no luck. "Server Error" or "Could not apply new settings." Anyone have a solution?
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Pandora Issue also and more so discussed here: Pioneer VSX-1123: Pandora Server Error
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Can you say "Late Adopter"? I'm just replacing a Pioneer VSX-1020 with the SC-1222-K. Haven't even hooked up the 1222 yet, just going through the manual and trying to make sure I understand what this monster can do. I know this thread is not really "current" anymore, but it has certainly been helpful to me so far. I'll have specific questions in the next few weeks, and I'm betting they will be answered within this thread. I'll be sure to check first, and I'm trying to read through the entire thread.

General question - Any opinions on whether I would be better off to set up with the "front wide" or "front height" or use the "surround side" for the additional surround speakers? I'm not used to anything more than a 5.1 set-up.

I'll be running all Infinity speakers; Qb (4 ohm - recently recapped and otherwise refurbed) for front main, and then Infinitesimal 4's (6 ohm) for the center, front wide (or surround side) and rear surrounds. A couple BU-1 sub-woofers will be used up front to reinforce the Qb's bottom end.

This receiver is a big step up for me - lot's to learn. Hope to figure out networking, Airplay and DLNA stuff, since I have about 3 tb of music files in Apple Lossless and FLAC that I'd like to be able to run through the beast. Will also be getting a more modern TV monitor with HDMI and a Blueray player sometime. My old 1980's vintage CRT unit is still working but it just doesn't cut it anymore. Well, it hasn't been adequate for years, but I'm slow to change things that are working...

Thanks in advance. And thanks for already sharing your previously acquired knowledge with everyone.

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A true "Buyer Beware" . . .

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Can you say "Late Adopter"? I'm just replacing a Pioneer VSX-1020 with the SC-1222-K. . .
Be aware that the 1222 is in a group of AVR's where Pandora fails and Pioneer is not, from what it looks like, going to address it. You may have a newer machine that they are offering as "paid" refurb replacements for the issue. Let us know how it works, especially the Pandora part. Good Luck!!

Thread link: Pioneer VSX-1123: Pandora Server Error

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Be aware that the 1222 is in a group of AVR's where Pandora fails and Pioneer is not, from what it looks like, going to address it. You may have a newer machine that they are offering as "paid" refurb replacements for the issue. Let us know how it works, especially the Pandora part. Good Luck!!

Thread link: Pioneer VSX-1123: Pandora Server Error
Thanks, Farmer Bob. I had seen info on the Pandora problem. Kind of a bummer, but it's not one of the things I would use a lot at this point. I can never find a radio broadcast that suits me that well.

EDIT - Well, now that I understand Pandora a little better, I think this is one feature I will be disappointed to miss out on. Dang...

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[QUOTE=dborgill;22930500]Pioneer SC-1222-K

Class D3 Amplification

The SC-1222’s Class D3 7-channel amplifier is one of the most powerful amplifiers of any multi-channel A/V receiver Pioneer has ever produced. Designed for audiophiles, Class D3 amplification features a direct signal path, with no EMI filters, feedback loops, or current limiters. Unlike regular amps, Class D3 amplifiers are 4-OHM certified so they safely power those low-impedance speakers that other receivers just can’t handle. These amplifiers run cool, using just a fraction of the energy of less efficient designs. Class A/B amplifiers simply cannot match the efficiency of Class D3 as their power output per channel diminishes rapidly when more channels are added to the work-load. This kind of unprecedented power capability allows you to appreciate the full dynamics from any media source in a way never before possible.

I found this thread just recently and have a question that someone may be able to help me with -
My current audio gear is an old Bose Accoustimass 10 with 5 array cubes & accoustimass module, Pioneer SC-1222-K receiver, HSU VTF2-Mk4 (downfiring) subwoofer and a pair of newly bought ELAC Debut B6 speakers.

Question: Bose manual says that the cube arrays are rated at 4-8ohms. Since SC-1222-K is rated to handle the 4 ohms speakers, can I directly connect these speakers to sc-1222-k, completely bypassing the Bose Accoustimass module? A couple of replies on a different site tell me that I need to get rid of Bose system and replace with some real speakers. Any help is greatly appreciated....
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Pioneer SC-1222-K

Class D3 Amplification

The SC-1222’s Class D3 7-channel amplifier is one of the most powerful amplifiers of any multi-channel A/V receiver Pioneer has ever produced. Designed for audiophiles, Class D3 amplification features a direct signal path, with no EMI filters, feedback loops, or current limiters. Unlike regular amps, Class D3 amplifiers are 4-OHM certified so they safely power those low-impedance speakers that other receivers just can’t handle. These amplifiers run cool, using just a fraction of the energy of less efficient designs. Class A/B amplifiers simply cannot match the efficiency of Class D3 as their power output per channel diminishes rapidly when more channels are added to the work-load. This kind of unprecedented power capability allows you to appreciate the full dynamics from any media source in a way never before possible.

I found this thread just recently and have a question that someone may be able to help me with -
My current audio gear is an old Bose Accoustimass 10 with 5 array cubes & accoustimass module, Pioneer SC-1222-K receiver, HSU VTF2-Mk4 (downfiring) subwoofer and a pair of newly bought ELAC Debut B6 speakers.

Question: Bose manual says that the cube arrays are rated at 4-8ohms. Since SC-1222-K is rated to handle the 4 ohms speakers, can I directly connect these speakers to sc-1222-k, completely bypassing the Bose Accoustimass module? A couple of replies on a different site tell me that I need to get rid of Bose system and replace with some real speakers. Any help is greatly appreciated....
If the D3 amps are so monumental, how come mine hiss and make a thumping noise when I change the volume and can't power crap, and get as hot as my D909S. I have eight JBL 4311 monitors and when I try to test at a halfway decent volume, the unit turns the audio off. I have to turn down the volume and wait about 5 minutes for it to come back. Of all my other three Pioneer AVRs I have never had this problem. I think it's all hype. Especially now what with the Pandora fiasco.
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Thanks, Farmer Bob. I had seen info on the Pandora problem. Kind of a bummer, but it's not one of the things I would use a lot at this point. I can never find a radio broadcast that suits me that well.

EDIT - Well, now that I understand Pandora a little better, I think this is one feature I will be disappointed to miss out on. Dang...
So... I find that Pandora works just fine sourced through my BluRay player or Smart TV. Am I missing anything or losing sound quality running Pandora this way? It sounds good, but I haven't really settled in for a critical listening session. I never had either a a BluRay or Smart TV before and I'm enjoying playing with this thing.

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Pioneer SC-1222-K

Class D3 Amplification

The SC-1222’s Class D3 7-channel amplifier is one of the most powerful amplifiers of any multi-channel A/V receiver Pioneer has ever produced. Designed for audiophiles, Class D3 amplification features a direct signal path, with no EMI filters, feedback loops, or current limiters. Unlike regular amps, Class D3 amplifiers are 4-OHM certified so they safely power those low-impedance speakers that other receivers just can’t handle. These amplifiers run cool, using just a fraction of the energy of less efficient designs. Class A/B amplifiers simply cannot match the efficiency of Class D3 as their power output per channel diminishes rapidly when more channels are added to the work-load. This kind of unprecedented power capability allows you to appreciate the full dynamics from any media source in a way never before possible.

I found this thread just recently and have a question that someone may be able to help me with -
My current audio gear is an old Bose Accoustimass 10 with 5 array cubes & accoustimass module, Pioneer SC-1222-K receiver, HSU VTF2-Mk4 (downfiring) subwoofer and a pair of newly bought ELAC Debut B6 speakers.

Question: Bose manual says that the cube arrays are rated at 4-8ohms. Since SC-1222-K is rated to handle the 4 ohms speakers, can I directly connect these speakers to sc-1222-k, completely bypassing the Bose Accoustimass module? A couple of replies on a different site tell me that I need to get rid of Bose system and replace with some real speakers. Any help is greatly appreciated....
I have a similar setup. For my place, putting in large speakers just isn't an option, so I went with Bose, and I also have the wireless transmitter for the rear surrounds which made my life a whole lot easier because running wire through the attic to the outside wall would have been too much of a pain.

As far as the bose cubes go, they don't list the cross-over for them. The bass module either powers the cubes or acts like a passthrough for the power and modulates the sound for the x.over between the sub and the cubes as far as I know. You could test it out and hook the cube up to the receiver directly, but that could damage the cube if the x.over isn't set right. So if you are going to test, I would set the cube to <small> in the speaker setup, and set the x.over to a high number like 150 or even 200. I have thought about doing this as well just to see if the sound will be better directly from the receiver, but I am too afraid of it blowing out the little cube speakers. If you do test it, please PM me and let me know how it goes.

I actually just added two of the Klipsch RP-140SA Dolby Atmos speakers to my setup to try and do a Fake Atmos from this receiver. I'm hoping to upgrade to the SC-LX801 later this year, or hold out until the new models come out next year. All depends on $$$.

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So I'm brand new here. I've had a SC 1222 for a few years and as of yesterday the sound started cutting out intermittently. At first I thought it might be HDMI issue, as the TV sound would cut out for ~1-2 seconds every minute or so. But I've tried the tuner and it is also cutting out randomly for 1-2 seconds every few minutes. I've tried factory reset on settings and setting things up again with no success. I've looked through this thread, but haven't found this specific problem. Any recommendations?
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I'm hoping someone can help me out here. I recently bought the OPPO 205 and want to make use of it's onboard DACs. The 205 has analog outputs for connecting to a preamp/amp/AVR. My plan was to use my SC1222k as an amplifier connecting it to the analog inputs, but I don't want to "redigitize" the signal coming and have it run through the SC1222k DACS or audio tone circuitry. Looking in the owner's manual I see they recommend using the ANALOG IN 1 (CD) connection if you have a turntable producing a line-level output, which I'm assuming after it has been through pre amp. Would this be the right connection to use? Is there a way to "bypass" the audio circuitry in the SC1222k so the AVR just acts as an amplifier?

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Is there a way to "bypass" the audio circuitry in the SC1222k so the AVR just acts as an amplifier?
"Pure Direct" will do that.
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"Pure Direct" will do that.
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Thanks for the response. The manual states that Pure Direct mode "Plays back unmodified sound from source with only minimal digital treatment" Does this mean that the AVR redigitizes the signal and sends it through it's DACs to convert back to analog?

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