Onkyo TX-8050 vs Denon AVR-2112CI A/V Receiver vs Integra DTM-40.4 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:50 PM - Thread Starter
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Briefly, I am interested in stereo audio only - No video, No games, Just audio.

A) 2 Floor-standing Polk audio speakers - rear
B) 2 Wall-mounted Sony bookshelf speakers - front
C) Klipsch subwoofer (300 watt internal amp)

I presently own a brand-new, never been used Denon AVR-2112CI - but have whined and complained on another thread about the Denon manual and the arcane setup

Although ages ago, I used to build my own tube amps and speakers, times have changed; such that all my past experience is now irrelevant. Recently an AV specialist told me that I had made a wrong purchase with the Denon 2112CI and that I should look for a dedicated stereo unit instead (Onkyo TX-8050 or the Integra DTM-40.4).

All three of these units are networkable, have optical inputs, and subwoofer pre-outs. I need all three. Obviously I also need to control volume, tone and balance (side to side, front to back).

Two such units would be the Onkyo TX-8050 and the much more expensive (about what I paid for with the Denon that I now have here) Integra DTM-40.4 (made by Onkyo kind of like Lexus is made by Toyota). Apparently these stereo receiver/amps support two sets of speakers and a subwoofer pre-out. Yikes! Things have changed.

Only two music sources will be used: Pandora internet radio (have an account) and FLAC tunes from one of my many computers (optical connect from HT Omega Claro sound card to receiver/amp or via the wired network).

Question: I have so much money already invested in speakers, computers, cables, etc. that I am willing to bite the bullet on amp/receiver pricing. Should I put the new/never used Denon up for sale and replace it with the equally expensive Integra or the much cheaper Onkyo. Will either of these two units give me better quality sound and fewer setup headaches than the Denon?

Footnote: I am now able to get a couple of speakers to belch out sound (finally) with the Denon but for an audiophile they sound like crap. Only a beginning though. I know I can do much better if I play with the Denon more and actually plow through the idiotic manual in greater detail.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:06 PM
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Bump. I'm in the same boat, but unfortunately have no knowledge to share. I've been looking at TX 8050 to run my ole MMG's. I'm on a tight budget. I went to fire up my Denon AVR 3200 and standby stays on. Don't care much about HT anymore. But I'd like to hear the maggies. After reading about issues with the TX 8050 networking, issues it makes me think maybe a straight Integrated AMP may be better, or even a stand alone 2 channel Amp. I do have a NAS I want to stream from. Integra looks like the same unit. And what's with those composite video connections? I was also looking at the Audiosource AMP series, but don't know much about Audiosource and looks like no sub out on the 110 and 210. No preamp functions.

There's also the Onkyo A 9050. If I had the bucks I like it's approach better. Leave the network stuff out and focus on Audio and DAC. Leave the network stuff to the ever evolving mobile device market and plug in the latest mobile device.

Right now on Amazon the prices are similar for Onkyo TX 8050 and Audiosource AMP 110.

The Onkyo A 9050 is over twice a much but I guess you get

• Three-stage Inverted Darlington Circuitry
• Wolfson 192 kHz/24 bit DACs withDIDRC Circuitry Inside (WM8718)
• Phase Matching Bass Technology
• 1.6 mm Full Flat Chassis
• DIDRC (Dynamic Intermodulation Distortion Reduction Circuiry)
• High Current Low Impedance Drive
• 10,000 μF Capacitor × 2
• Optimum Gain Volume

Not sure it's worth twice the price. I don't care much about the network or composite video stuff on the TX - 8050, but if it the network works hey, the price is right.
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