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I currently have an Onkyo PRSC-5508 pre/pro. I auditioned the Sherwood and was really captivated by the enveloping sound. I want the sound I heard out of the Sherwood with the feature set of the Onkyo. Are there any options without going ridiculously expensive? I don't use any of the video processing capabilities as I only watch movies, most of which are Blu-Ray. DVD's I have upscaled with an Oppo. I even have the video on "skip" mode with the Onkyo.
What I like about the Onkyo: 2 HDMI out, the remote, no quirks, playing MP3's from a flash drive, ability to overlay sound fields. It definetly was better musically than the Sherwood, but that is not a top priority for me.
The Sherwood just brought movies alive. Trinnov definetly made a big difference. I noticed a difference between Audyssey multi XT and XT 32. Trinnov when 3-D mapping is engaged just made you slip into the movie. I just didn't realize that when I hooked the Onkyo up again how much I missed the Sherwood. The Onkyo is up for sale. Unless there are no other options, the Sherwood will the best choice.
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There are two basic consideration to be taken into account:
- quality and implementation
- surround SQ

Whilst the later seems to be the strength of the 972, the former is lacking crossly.
My experience in the long run is, that those "annoyances" are getting more and more in the way, defying those other advantages.
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I disagree, after trying the other offerings at five times the price I appreciate the 972 even more and moved it back in.?
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That was kind of my thought. I just didn't realize that when I put the Onkyo back in rotation I would miss the sound that much. I was absolutely immersed in the movies that I watched with the Sherwood. The Onkyo left me wanting. However, I also agree with the other posting. The quirks are annoying. That is why I posted this question.
One of the other pieces I was looking at was the Denon 4311. How does this stack up?
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Anyone with a Sherwood to Denon 4311 comparison or Onkyo to Denon 4311 comparison?
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Unfortunately, there is no other type of room correction that does remapping. It is unique to Trinnov and to get that without the Sherwood is very expensive. You have to decide which tradeoffs you are willing to make remapping sound quality or other features.
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Anyone with a Sherwood to Denon 4311 comparison or Onkyo to Denon 4311 comparison?

I sold my Denon 4311 and kept the Sherwood, and I loved the 4311.

Unless you have a perfectly set up, dedicated room with perfect speaker positioning, Trinnov provides a sound field that is unmatched for movies and music. The 4311's XT32 did EQ my speakers a little bit better, and had more channels, but I never used them.

I added an XPA-5 amp, and now I don't think I could ever go without trinnov ever again. Once you hear it, its awe inspiring.

Screw the quirks, its worth it. I also just happened to pay less overall for the r-972 and the xpa-5 then the 4311 itself, which not only made it the best sounding audio setup I've ever had, but also the best value.

Add in some jbl 190 towers at newegg for under $160 shipped each with that v.me coupon, and you have a poor mans audiophile quality sound system.

I built my sub, and now will be building my speakers, so it will only get better.
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I am leaning toward living with the quirks. I just can't get it out of my head what it sounded like. I really appreciated sitting back and enjoying the movie instead of trying to make tweaks the whole time. Thanks Trinnov.
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