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post #31 of 36 Old 03-27-2013, 07:16 AM
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It also depends on your front stage speakers, but a three channel would be best. However, I am running a two and five channel and it works fine.

Main Kef: Reference 205/2 & 202/2c, Surrounds: Kef XQ40, Velodyne Optimum 12, Integra DHC 80.3, Ayre K-5xeMP, Oppo BDP-103, Bryston 4Bsst2, Parasound Halo A31. Second B&W: 685 (3), CCM618, Def Tech Powerfield 1500, Onkyo TX-NR1008, Zone 2 Klipsch AW650.
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I like paradigm the studio 100 s ,cc490, studio 10 or 20 rears. I was going to find focal 836s too listen to. My search is not over yet. I know we are not in the speaker fourm but it has been mentioned. Maybe I can stretch budget for amp/ pre/ pro. What suggestions do you guys have ???? To take me to the next level over say studio 100 s, or focal 836 if I like them or B & W CDM 9. It is funny how this can become a sickness I started at 4 k speaker budget which would be by far the nicest setup I ever had.
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I like paradigm the studio 100 s ,cc490, studio 10 or 20 rears. I was going to find focal 836s too listen to. My search is not over yet. I know we are not in the speaker fourm but it has been mentioned. Maybe I can stretch budget for amp/ pre/ pro. What suggestions do you guys have ???? To take me to the next level over say studio 100 s, or focal 836 if I like them or B & W CDM 9. It is funny how this can become a sickness I started at 4 k speaker budget which would be by far the nicest setup I ever had.

Mate, did you catch what I said earlier in the thread about a monster centre channel? If you like the Paradigm Studios, the next level is to forget the baby CC-490 and step up to the CC-690. The CC-490 is not the recommended centre for Studio 80's & 100's but for the 10's & 20's. In a multichannel (movies; music; games) situation the CC-490 will be holding the system back because they'd be overpowered by the 100's.

This is where the bang for your buck is - the extra spent on a superior centre channel speaker that matches your main L&R will make a much bigger improvement to your overall experience than say a $2000 processor ever will. Oh, and go for the 20's - the surrounds will be a fair distance away in your large room and will need some grunt.

The apparent next level is Paradigm Signature, but you'd need to judge whether the sound quality improvement is worth it. Other suggestions: PSB Imagine Series or Synchrony Series. Terrific value but ID: Aperion Audio Grand Verus; SVS Ultra Series.
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I replaced an Anthem A5 with the Outlaw Model 7900. Both are exquisite but the 7900 gets the nod for its superb control of the Paradigm Reference 100s. If Outlaws smaller amps are from the same pedigree, I say buy one! Forget the others. The best bang for the buck
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P.S. Giegar is absolutely correct. The Center Channel is THE most important speaker in a surround system. Don't skimp on this one. If you are looking at Studio 100's you gotta go with the 690 center. The 100's play well with 200-300 watts. They play extremely loud given clean power. I started with and AVR rated at 105wpc(good). Moved to 200wpc(better), and am now at 300(unbelievable). They are AWESOME!
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Mate, did you catch what I said earlier in the thread about a monster centre channel? If you like the Paradigm Studios, the next level is to forget the baby CC-490 and step up to the CC-690. The CC-490 is not the recommended centre for Studio 80's & 100's but for the 10's & 20's. In a multichannel (movies; music; games) situation the CC-490 will be holding the system back because they'd be overpowered by the 100's.

This is where the bang for your buck is - the extra spent on a superior centre channel speaker that matches your main L&R will make a much bigger improvement to your overall experience than say a $2000 processor ever will. Oh, and go for the 20's - the surrounds will be a fair distance away in your large room and will need some grunt.

The apparent next level is Paradigm Signature, but you'd need to judge whether the sound quality improvement is worth it. Other suggestions: PSB Imagine Series or Synchrony Series. Terrific value but ID: Aperion Audio Grand Verus; SVS Ultra Series.

I thought cc 4,5,and 690 were the match now I know ther are not. Will the 590 be be good enough at $1400 msrp. My room is big but Wife and I will be only about 10 feet from front spearkes and rears will actually right behind us 2 feet away. Think of it as 10 x 15 area in the bedroom where will be sitting front and back wall 15 feet to the right of us is wall left of us opens up to rest of bedroom. Being rears will be right behind us do you think the 10 s or surounds will be good enough. The cc 490 is out of head allready if I go with paradigm.
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